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ethaninja

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It costs too much >=( I haven't been able to play it yet so I can't judge. The reason I haven't been able to play it is because it's like 100 bucks. Seriously, wtf.
 

ethaninja

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It was the first CoD I owned. I don't hate it, I just think it's too highly praised. I don't think the multiplayer is fun, it doesn't encourage people to work together at all.
What games multiplayer does?
 

MiracleOfSound

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In a game with so much variety in how players can choose to approach it, there are going to be a few weapons and strategies that break the balance and ruin the fun for everyone else.

This makes people who play fairly get angry.
 

Dragon Zero

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A lot of factors go into the hate it receives:

1. The HYPE, this game was as hyped as Halo 2, GTA Vice City, and Twilight Princess and that says a lot since those are games I remember hearing way too much about (though in all three cases and to some degree with MW2, I still found them great) before they released.

2. Its campaign was pretty good but not as good as CoD4 was to some people (Though in my eyes, the CoD single player experience peaked at CoD2) and felt really short.

3. Multiplayer has several issues still, probably due to it never having an open Beta (QA teams can find alot of bugs but its nothing compared to the scrutiny of the public) and many other glitches such as the Javelin, Care Package and Akimbo 1887's stayed in the game far too long. Others like FFA Nuke Boosting remain and can ruin matches very easily.

4. Balance issues in the multiplayer, such as the famous witch/runner/knife monkey build or the fact that Modded controllers are still prevalent despite IW promising otherwise.

5. the Community has quite a few asshats in it. Seriously how is a grenade launcher considered "cheap" when facing some one who can deliver an insta-kill knife slash from 50 feet away facing the other direction on a different map in a different game? or against someone camping and using an Assault rifle that Can shoot with virtually no Recoil? or someone that fires an M21 faster than some SMG's due to a controller?

Despite these complaints I still enjoy the game from time to time. My little brother LOVES it. I have gotten tired of it and will probably cut down if not totally abandon it for other games in a little while (I've enjoyed BC2 a lot) though I'm intrigued by the DLC coming soon
 

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A whole load of balancing issues to hell, massive problems with hosts whatever system you're on, the fact that the game sold purely on the name of Call of Duty 4, glitches up the arse that break the multiplayer game play, a campaign that is frikkin' retarded and makes me feel like I should be humming the James Bond theme tune, a lack of good multiplayer modes such as Hardcore Sabotage, the addition of third person, and probably the fact that it needed another six months in development.

If it hadn't been hyped up and everyone ending up buying four copies of the game then I wouldn't really have a problem with it, but because it was hyped, all the problems are just that much more noticable...
 

Warped_Ghost

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-They tried too hard to make a good single player and it ended up being confusing.
-The multiplayer had this odd way of making me feel like a shitty player even if I got a 2 kd ratio.
-The game also made me mad and video games shouldn't make you mad.
-Spawn placement could use a fair amount of fixing.

Because of these reasons I sold modern warfare and have felt better ever since.

Ever time im in a party with someone who is playing MW2 they are usually pissed off.
 

ScottocS

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I personally love it. Understand the no Dedi Servers thing but that has been discussed to death. I have no care for your opinion if you are trying to ram it down my throat. I like the game you don't.

That will suffice. The sort of people that do try to ram it down my throat need to get a life and move on. :)

In saying that I love playing MW2, i also enjoy BC2 a fare bit. But it goes without saying, it has its issues too (unreliable multiplayer server connectivity). But all games have their hitch's.

I take the passion of these "overly opinionated" "my word is truth" people with a bucket of salt. :)
 

Daedalus1942

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onioftheash said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Zannah said:
...to deserve all the hatred it gets?

Sure we can all agree, it didn't reach the extremely high standards of it's predecessor. But while not being as good as cod4, it was by no means a bad game.
The story was questionable, but you only realize that halfway through, since the way the story is told, both atmosphere and pacing are exellent.
In about five days or so, playing online, I have encountered as much as one hacker, and no litches at all (or they where too small for me to realize) - and aside from massive waves of crying, I couldn't find any game-breaking balance issues. Sure it has no dedicated servers, but that only concerns Pc-gamers, and I had problems connecting like three or four times... (and not having an admin, that can come up with any whatsoever stupid rules can be a plus). Besides, it took me some time going back, playing cod 4, to realize the massive improvements, certain parts of the multiplayer have undergone.

So why is everyone bashing on Mw2?
Because it's not as good as the previous mw?
Because it has no dedicated servers?
Because it's popular? (which would be my personal assumption, but isn't condemming something because it's popular just as stupid as doing something cause its popular?)

So please share your thoughts, where does all the alsmost haloesque hatred for Mw2 come from?
I didn't hate it, I just feel it didn't change enough to warrant the $100 pricetag.
Multiplayer is pretty much identical except for the maps, Spec Ops, and the removal or Martyrdom and Juggernaut as normal perks.
Right now everyone and their mum has juggernaut on were as before you had to give up perks like stopping power to get juggernaut ect.
But in Modern Warfare 2 Juggernaut only works if you die 4 times without a kill. It's less obnoxious than it was in the first game, and the players who are really good can't use it.
 

Daedalus1942

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TelHybrid said:
Daedalus1942 said:
TelHybrid said:
5 Hour single player campaign (unacceptable for the £45 price tag it had, and especially unacceptable for the £55 price tag Infinity Ward wanted retailers to sell it for)

Hacked to bits online (just because you're an exeption doesn't change that)

Poorly programmed peer to peer, which leads to random hosting, which means the player with the worst connection in the match can end up as the host, which makes it unplayable due to horrible lag

12 year olds with microphones online (no elaboration needed)

anything else needed?
Not to mention that with the random hosting, as soon as the main host leaves, the game stops for like 5 minutes and then resumes when it finds a suitable host (I always get kicked from the match when this happens). But regardless, it really breaks the flow and feel of the match.
I play on the ps3 version, btw. It might be different for 360 and pc, though I doubt it.
I played on the 360 version. I had exactly the same problems.

Thanks for emphasizing my point. =]
You're very welcome. I agreed with everything you said, but wasn't sure if it was the same on the 360 as the ps3.
 

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I find the game to be enjoyable enough. I have a theory though.

I think that the reason people do not like the online and complain about it, it because they don't do as good as they used to. In CoD4, people who had 18 or so days played(like me) reigned supreme. They went around unchallenged and loved it.

But when MW2 came out, everybody had so much experience playing CoD4, that they all started at a certain level of skill and people who dominated in CoD4 could not duplicate that in MW2.

That is why I think people do not like MW2. Well....the multiplayer at least.
 
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Zannah said:
...to deserve all the hatred it gets?

Sure we can all agree, it didn't reach the extremely high standards of it's predecessor. But while not being as good as cod4, it was by no means a bad game.
The story was questionable, but you only realize that halfway through, since the way the story is told, both atmosphere and pacing are exellent.
In about five days or so, playing online, I have encountered as much as one hacker, and no litches at all (or they where too small for me to realize) - and aside from massive waves of crying, I couldn't find any game-breaking balance issues. Sure it has no dedicated servers, but that only concerns Pc-gamers, and I had problems connecting like three or four times... (and not having an admin, that can come up with any whatsoever stupid rules can be a plus). Besides, it took me some time going back, playing cod 4, to realize the massive improvements, certain parts of the multiplayer have undergone.

So why is everyone bashing on Mw2?
Because it's not as good as the previous mw?
Because it has no dedicated servers?
Because it's popular? (which would be my personal assumption, but isn't condemming something because it's popular just as stupid as doing something cause its popular?)
It's not a problem with the game, it's a problem with the community. This is why people hate on Halo aswell, having such a large community means there's a significant number of douchebags. Dickheads who just camp for their chopper gunner, or nuke boost, its just not on.
Likewise in vanilla WoW nobody was an asshole and look at now it's popular, the community is a bunch of arrogant jerks who think a high Gearscore makes them a-mazing.

So please share your thoughts, where does all the alsmost haloesque hatred for Mw2 come from?
 

James Hueick

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-Because the single player campaign was only 6 hours and they barely improved the multiplayer.
-Yup
-Probably this pisses off most PC gamers but Console gamers are used to it.
-Nay
 

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I cant say that i hate the game but sometimes it just seems like their are just a lot of people that play the game just to try to break it with glitches and exploits they find. But then again these people usually get tucked in bed around nine so it isn't that much of a problem.
 

Jack Nettle

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Not exactly a good reason, but mainly because everyone at school continuously talks about this game to no end, then I got tired of hearing it. When I play the game myself, in no way do I find it up the standards that these thousands of people have tried to lift it.
For example: I call a predator missile, that's pretty cool, but when the missile does nothing to my friend whom I've directly hit? That's stupid. Want to know how he survived? Stood under mesh with leaves on top of it. Nothing else.
That's also why I disagree with the "realistic" aspect of the game.
Opinions, opinions. -.-
 

Crimsonsniper

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Most people hate it because it's a sequel which fails to meet the expectations set for it by the previous game. I personally thought it was also done in a sloppy manner with alot of obvious bugs, glitchs, and mistakes left in. Additionally it seemed to make use of lazy designs and/or animations. It's certainly not the worst game I ever completed (that honor is reserved for "Too Human") but it isn't one of the best either, it falls into the medicore middle class of failed gaming legends, right alongside Halo 3.
 

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shotgunbob said:
MONSTERheart said:
off-balance, poor AI in campaign, plain levels in campaign, generic shooter campaign, half the guns weren't even "modern" (M16, Thumper, AK-47), etc.

I'm pretty sure BFBC2 is more deserving of the title "Modern Warfare".
Considering the M16 and AK47 are both being used today it still makes them modern

and the AK47 is the most widely used gun in the world
M16 is severely outdated and rapidly being replaced/already replaced and the AK-47 in MW2 is an old version. The new ones are much nicer looking.
 

JackyJack

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*Reads title*

What has it done? Given me hours of good ACR-AC130-Cobra-Sniping-Pave-Low-Chopper-Gunner fun.
 

StarStruckStrumpets

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Modding - Can be prevented by implementing Mod-Stop systems.
Glitches - Can be patched, too damn lazy to patch them all, even the simple ones.
Commando - In itself is fine, but when you've got a tac knife and lunge 50ft? I. Don't. Think. So.
Singleplayer - This isn't warfare, this is one drawn out revenge story. COD4 > MW2.

When I first bought the game, it was brilliant. One of the best multi-player experiences I've ever had. Then everyone decided they'd ruin the game. Infinity Ward then decided they'd take 3 months to patch one glitch.

Eventually, I traded it in out of pure frustration. I got sick of everyone sponging 50.Cal bullets (meant to bring down armored air support) to the chest. I also got sick of the modders with the FALs.
 

Flames66

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I haven't played it yet and I won't be for some time. The reason I dislike it at the moment is it's too expensive. I won't even consider playing it until I can get it for less than £10.