What did Sony do that was so great?

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rednose1

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Title may be a bit misleading, so let me clarify: I am not being pessimistic against Sony. I thoroughly enjoyed the news coming out of E3. Watching Xbone explode, fist pumping after reading Sony news, laughed at the instructional video on sharing PS4 game, the whole she-bang.

After I calmed down a bit though, I realized, all Sony did was not screw up. All the current consoles had everything the PS4 is promising (though publishers recently played with DRM and always online nonsense.)

Again, I'm not hating on Sony (at least, I don't think I am) and there is no way I'll be buying an Xbone. If anything, I wanna know why we piss ourselves like excited puppies at the news Sony isn't gonna screw us over. Have we really come to the point where no bad news is the same as great news?
 

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Really Microsoft looks so shit by comparison that anything else looks great.
 

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Thats more then enough of a reason. They actually didn't screw up. They listened. They played their cards perfectly. In this day and age, good news like this is rare, specially to me. So yes, we are in a time where if someone does something right, we cheer for it. Good news has become that rare. Good on Sony.
 

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rednose1 said:
Again, I'm not hating on Sony (at least, I don't think I am) and there is no way I'll be buying an Xbone. If anything, I wanna know why we piss ourselves like excited puppies at the news Sony isn't gonna screw us over. Have we really come to the point where no bad news is the same as great news?
Yes, we have come that far. It's really sad but that's where we're at at the moment.
 

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Well, on one side you're right, all they did was not screw up. On the other hand, they have shown that have learned from their mistake in previous generation and that they put consumers first. That's more than enough for me.
 

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They are like Valve, They are in a good spot so they don't have to do much, only not fuck up.
Think about it, Valve hasn't done much outside of Hats and Steam for the past while and they are Industry Celebs!
 

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rednose1 said:
Title may be a bit misleading, so let me clarify: I am not being pessimistic against Sony. I thoroughly enjoyed the news coming out of E3. Watching Xbone explode, fist pumping after reading Sony news, laughed at the instructional video on sharing PS4 game, the whole she-bang.

After I calmed down a bit though, I realized, all Sony did was not screw up. All the current consoles had everything the PS4 is promising (though publishers recently played with DRM and always online nonsense.)

Again, I'm not hating on Sony (at least, I don't think I am) and there is no way I'll be buying an Xbone. If anything, I wanna know why we piss ourselves like excited puppies at the news Sony isn't gonna screw us over. Have we really come to the point where no bad news is the same as great news?
You are absolutely correct. When you get right down to it, Sony showed an upgraded PS3, no more, no less. Which is fine, but when I take a step back and forget about the announcements relating to used games and online connectivity requirements, the stuff Sony showed wasn't really exciting. It's just... a new PlayStation. Same as the old PlayStation with most of the same games, but with better graphics.

I dunno, maybe I'm being overly pessimistic.
 

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I'm pretty sure, at this point, most gamers will give their love to any company who stands up and says "We're not the XBone!" and then proves it. That's what Sony did, so now we can all walk away happy and smug that we've made one gaming company act slighltly less douche-y than another. Also- we are apparently now going to forget about the awful mess that was the PS3 jailbreak debacle as well as Sony's horrid protection policies and the utter lack of respect and knowledge of actual company policy in it's customer service department. Their toy is currently shiniest and so we're all rushing to play with it. That said, I'm probably a hypocrite because two years from now I'll probably have caved and will own one for myself.
 

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IllumInaTIma said:
Well, on one side you're right, all they did was not screw up. On the other hand, they have shown that have learned from their mistake in previous generation and that they put consumers first. That's more than enough for me.
This is so off topic it hurts, but LOL at your Avatar XD
 

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Diablo1099 said:
IllumInaTIma said:
Well, on one side you're right, all they did was not screw up. On the other hand, they have shown that have learned from their mistake in previous generation and that they put consumers first. That's more than enough for me.
This is so off topic it hurts, but LOL at your Avatar XD
At last someone noticed! I've literally learned how to make gif just to make that!
 

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rednose1 said:
After I calmed down a bit though, I realized, all Sony did was not screw up. All the current consoles had everything the PS4 is promising (though publishers recently played with DRM and always online nonsense.)
See, that's absolutely correct, but when your only other option is something as bad as the Xbone, which brought forth an incredible amount of bile from a lot of people and was threatening to take the whole console gaming to a new low, you can't help but be happy to be back at a "if it's not broke, don't fix it" mentality and not have to worry about the future of console gaming.
 

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"Not screwing up" is something that is hard to come by nowadays. It deserves reward when it happens, because it shows that the company is willing to take the steps to "not screw up".
 

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It's simple really.

They demonstrated something so simple, something in plain site that when you get up to the executive levels of a company like microsoft, you simply forget to do.

Sony has demonstrated that they are listening to their customers wants and needs. And that's all we really need.
Quoted for truth.

Seriously, you can be rather cynical and say, that all they did was "Not Screw up". Or "Show off an upgraded PS3". But I don't think that is really true.

Sony showed that they listened to the consumers. That they learned from the mistakes they made with the PS3. I don't know if they had the same DRM Online requirements as XBox One, but they certainly did show some respect for the consumer by not including it or taking it out.

Hell, if I'm honest, I wasn't happy at the start. I was looking for the games. But when they showed up, they certainly showed up. And just when the people I was talking to started asking about Gameplay, they showed gameplay. Assassin's Creed and Watch Dogs look very nice.

Kingdom Hearts 3... Earlier, if you had asked me if we would see that today, I would have laughed and been like, "I wish." But they showed us Kingdom Hearts 3 and what even looked like some early gameplay. I am pleased. Excited even. I think that game single handily made me feel like a kid to see it in the conference.

I'm even kind of excited for FFXV. And a coworker of mine was wondering if we would hear anything about versus today. I laughed. I was certain it was going the way of Half Life 3. I am so happy to be wrong.

Combine this with no Online Requirement, no DRM, and the very livable price, and I think your question in answered. They remembered who buys their system.
Oh, and that sharing games demo on Youtube. It would have only been better if they had Kevin Butler.
 

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wintercoat said:
"Not screwing up" is something that is hard to come by nowadays. It deserves reward when it happens, because it shows that the company is willing to take the steps to "not screw up".
The conference in a nutshell. The only screwup I can think of is Assassin's Creed crashing.

Looking forward to the Jimquisition. It's going to be nice to see Sterling happy about something for a change. =P There is the online paywall, but Drive Club is free I heard, so hopefully that brings us money's worth.
 

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Nothing. Basically Microsoft was so ridiculous with their reveal that all Sony had to do was avoid blowing up on stage. I can't believe how positively people have reacted to this when it's going to require an Xbox Live style subscription to go online. That right there is a deal killer for me, but apparently everyone else is just happy it's not always online. Gradualism at its finest, folks.
 

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No, they did something major. They took a stance against DRMs and the stupid as shit always online thing. They spoke against it as a BAD thing. If they hadn't said anything about it, that would have been no different then condoning Microsoft's practices. What they did there was condemn it.

Live and let live?

Or

Live and let die?

Now, I'm pretty sure Microsoft is SERIOUSLY considering the notion of just dropping it. And also, dropping the price of their consoles.

50 billion gamers screaming at Microsoft that what they were doing is a bad thing wasn't going to make them listen because they had $$ in their eyes. But the fact that Jack Tretton did, now it's a different story.

Of course this doesn't mean Microsoft will, and I'm not saying Sony has grown a conscience and wants to stand up for gamers. But they do want to win our favor by pulling the stunt that they did. It's good business in the end. If anything, Microsoft might just drop their price out of fear that come the holiday season, PS4 is going to be steamrolling them in sales since its cheaper.
 

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Well, the answer is the question, I feel. "All Sony did was not screw up." That doesn't sound like reason for applause, until you go back and realise what they didn't screw up.

This is a next generation gaming machine. It's basically perfect. It has no real issues - apart from paying for online multiplayer, though you get enough additional stuff in the price to make it a non-issue for most. It's going to play all of the best games for the next six to ten years.

Sony didn't walk out on stage, smile, and leave. Microsoft didn't walk out on stage and fall over.
Microsoft is waging war against the consumer, and the next gen game system it's created is a Frankenstein of bad ideas that all lead to worse games.
Sony didn't screw up. The next gen game system they've created is a perfect harmony of great ideas that pretty much all lead to better games.

Sony didn't screw up... making a kick-ass game console. That's, frankly, more than enough reason to be excited. Unless you really, really, really wanna pay 500 Euros to watch TV on your TV.