I want to say being an all around prick, but I doubt the jails would be able to hold the first batch.
Because we all know what happened last time.Shaved Apple said:Drinking. Do something else to cope.
OH MY FUCKING GOD THIS.Nantucket said:Walking slowly in front of me in public.
Just move out the way! Don't walk in threes because I cannot slip by!
SacremPyrobolum said:The point is that the government should stay out of you bedroom. The act of sleeping with someone else does not endanger or destroy you freedoms, which is what the law is suppose to prevent in the first place.Syzygy23 said:You're either a sociopath or have never been in a relationship before if that's what you think.SacremPyrobolum said:Have you recently been cheated on by your wife/husband? If so, I am very sorry, but to make it a crime is a terrible idea as the act of having sex with another women/man/hermaphrodite beside the one the you said a few words to is not harmful to anyone.
Granted, adultery usually leads to divorce and a splitting of resources but it is not written anywhere that that course has to be taken. I know some people who are married but allow each other to sleep with other occasionally. Under a new law against it, they could not.
lol yeah... like somebody suggested on the internets:VeryOddGamer said:Stupidity.
Yeah, it would be pretty hard to enforce, but hey, the world would be a better place for it.
Me, despise idiots? Yes.
Yeah, penalties for this need to be tough. I don't think current laws are strong enough in this regard.Aris Khandr said:DUI already is a crime, but I feel it should carry sentencing more along the lines of Attempted Murder. If you think your good time is worth potentially costing someone their lives because you can't thing straight, you should be locked up.
rob_simple said:No, having a child is a conscious decision that two people make (in an ideal situation.)
How do you plan on enforcing this? Forced abortions? Taking a newborn away from their mother immediately after birth? Forced sterilization? What qualifies as being an unfit parent?If those two people are incapable of properly caring and providing for that child then why should they be allowed to bring it into the world, just because they can?
That's like saying 'oh I can shoot heroin into my arm, it's my body, so why does the government say I'm not allowed to?'
Getting pregnant is usually unplanned; having the baby is an entirely conscious decision.Colour-Scientist said:rob_simple said:No, having a child is a conscious decision that two people make (in an ideal situation.)
That almost rarely happens.
How do you plan on enforcing this? Forced abortions? Taking a newborn away from their mother immediately after birth? Forced sterilization? What qualifies as being an unfit parent?If those two people are incapable of properly caring and providing for that child then why should they be allowed to bring it into the world, just because they can?
That's like saying 'oh I can shoot heroin into my arm, it's my body, so why does the government say I'm not allowed to?'
Not having enough money? Spending too much time at work? Does there have to be two parents? Not a big enough house? Having a ridiculous surname? Not educated enough? Too educated?
What are you going to do to qualify the parents? IQ test? Means test?
I hate it when people bring up the idea of "child licenses", it's fucking retarded. I also find that the people who do have very little real world experience with parenting and children.
Also, did you just compare having a child without the Governments permission to shooting up heroin?
That's disgusting.rob_simple said:Yes, I am talking about forced abortions, in extreme cases.
If they didn't live up to your standards where would the child go? Into care? Which, judging by your planned system, would be ridiculously overcrowded.In others, if having the child can't be stopped, then they'll at least be closely monitored from the onset.
You have no idea what that person is like as a parent, other than hearing one outburst of anger in a public place for all of 5 seconds. This is what I mean about world experience. That small window does not count as knowing what constitutes a bad parent, she could be a fucking amazing mother, she just happened to snap. Raising a child is fucking hard and sometimes people are going to lose their cool, it doesn't mean the government should get to decide that they can't have any more children.And yes, I think you should be of a certain level of intelligence to have a child. I don't mean you need to have gone to university, or have even graduated high school, but you should be able to display that you are capable of functioning as a human being before you commit to bringing another one into this world. Speaking of world experience, when I walk through a shop in Glasgow and hear a mum shouting at her kid to, 'fucking get in your fucking chair' and he tells her to fuck off, I think, 'you shouldn't be a parent.'
Do you know that the parents did it because it was easier? Maybe they did it because they thought they were doing the best thing for their child. Perhaps they though sending them to a private school would get them a better education and chose single-sex because they genuinely thought it would be better. Sometimes parents make mistakes, it happens.Likewise, I know posh kids who were bundled off to single-sex private schools because it was easier for their parents, and it completely fucked them up because they had no concept of the world outside that school by the time they left at 18.
So is letting a child die, neglected and in poverty.Colour-Scientist said:That's disgusting.rob_simple said:Yes, I am talking about forced abortions, in extreme cases.
Well, since you're so keen to let anyone shit out a kid, what would you suggest? That we leave them with the parents that shout at them constantly, beat them, and don't feed them properly until they grow up to do the exact same thing and repeat the whole process over again (yes, I know not everyone with a shitty upbringing grows up to make the same mistakes; but an overwhelming number of them don't get that Lifetime Channel happy ending and are just as fucked up as their parents.)If they didn't live up to your standards where would the child go? Into care? Which, judging by your planned system, would be ridiculously overcrowded.In others, if having the child can't be stopped, then they'll at least be closely monitored from the onset.
Alright, that was just a snapshot, so I'll tell you where I really see this: the woman that lives above me. She has at least four kids, doesn't work, constantly screams at them and other people in the street, while her kids run riot in the street, shouting at passers-by, going through the bins and throwing shit all over the street and generally being a fucking blight on society. Social services have been out to her before but nothing has been done because apparently this is an acceptable way to live your life and, hey, if she wants to shit out another four kids, who's gonna stop her?You have no idea what that person is like as a parent, other than hearing one outburst of anger in a public place for all of 5 seconds. This is what I mean about world experience. That small window does not count as knowing what constitutes a bad parent, she could be a fucking amazing mother, she just happened to snap. Raising a child is fucking hard and sometimes people are going to lose their cool, it doesn't mean the government should get to decide that they can't have any more children.And yes, I think you should be of a certain level of intelligence to have a child. I don't mean you need to have gone to university, or have even graduated high school, but you should be able to display that you are capable of functioning as a human being before you commit to bringing another one into this world. Speaking of world experience, when I walk through a shop in Glasgow and hear a mum shouting at her kid to, 'fucking get in your fucking chair' and he tells her to fuck off, I think, 'you shouldn't be a parent.'
I'll buckle under this one, because you're right I can't be sure. I was merely trying to make it clear that I've not just got something against people who aren't rich and posh.Do you know that the parents did it because it was easier? Maybe they did it because they thought they were doing the best thing for their child. Perhaps they though sending them to a private school would get them a better education and chose single-sex because they genuinely thought it would be better. Sometimes parents make mistakes, it happens.Likewise, I know posh kids who were bundled off to single-sex private schools because it was easier for their parents, and it completely fucked them up because they had no concept of the world outside that school by the time they left at 18.
A woman recently went to jail for two years after falsely accusing three men of rape. They all got drunk, she regretted it, and the police called foul after 10 days or so when they noticed cracks in her story.Brad Calkins said:False rape/sexual assault accusations. Yes they are a crime in theory, but no, it's not enforced.
I was actually thinking really hard about what to say here, because I feel we are coming close to too many laws prohibiting stuff. But you sir, managed to come up with something I can wholeheartedly support. You are a scholar and I salute you.thedoclc said:Mine would be simple. If you sell a product with proposed health benefits, it must stand up to scientific scrutiny, you must obey your nation's health regulatory agencies (in the US, the FDA), you must assume full liability and have conducted proper trials, and you must clearly indicate what your product is for, what the adverse effects are, what you claim it does and what mechanisms it actually follows, what concentration of the product is available, and where and when the product was manufactured. No empty claims like, "Boosts immunity!" which is technically true of a glass of water.
Well then, we're definitely moving in the right direction.Nokshor said:A woman recently went to jail for two years after falsely accusing three men of rape. They all got drunk, she regretted it, and the police called foul after 10 days or so when they noticed cracks in her story.Brad Calkins said:False rape/sexual assault accusations. Yes they are a crime in theory, but no, it's not enforced.
This is in the UK though.
Oh I value music. But most of the modern stuff? Jeez, not even worth pirating. I'll stick to my (genuine, purchased) Nightwish, Nick Cave, Enya, Parni Valjak and Siddharta CDs.ElPatron said:Consumer's market. People just don't value music so it's hard to sell it.