What Exactly Is Wrong With World Of Warcraft?

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Vitor Goncalves

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Novskij said:
omega 616 said:
Novskij said:
Akira Fumi said:
Where it lacks in graphics
It lacks in graphics?? No just no, one of the best graphics ever, because my eyes are not bored of realism.
You think it looks realistic? I think it looks like a cartoon.

On topic. I haven't played it but looking at this,

I instantly see 80 odd boxes round the screen, which makes me think "I will need about 10 hands just to use all those (I am assuming) powers then an extra hand to move".

Like I said before, the graphics make me think bugs bunny is going to be lurking around somewhere. I am not usually a stickler for graphics, I just prefer realistic looking ones.

It also makes people do this


This person has 8 mice for Jesus sake!


Erm, what i meant is there is no need for realism, and the fact that its a cartoon makes it better than crysis.

also you dont need 10 hands to play that, thats just silly, about 5 abiltiies are often needed for constant use, and a few buttons which are further away are on cooldown. But after playing for a while, a single hand can be used for about 20 abilties in diffrent places.

Mouse hand is used for movement. :p
Akira Fumi said:
Novskij said:
Akira Fumi said:
Where it lacks in graphics
It lacks in graphics?? No just no, one of the best graphics ever, because my eyes are not bored of realism.
Compare it to Guild Wars, Aion or even Lineage 2 or a slew of other new games or games that came out at the same time. The differences are quite staggering. :p

Realism you say...what's that? I don't recall WoW having much of that, especially when I could mass DoT up anyone mid air with my priest and watch them die 4 seconds later. Realism that!
You misread my post, what i mean is, is that realism is boring and cartoonish graphics are not.
Guild Wars graphics are wonderful, detail, dances, but when it comes to combat is as dull as WoW if not worse, come on, try to fire a bow or crossbow when your enemy is punching your face, at least on Wow rangers go in melee combat when the enemy is on melee range. Of course you still can fire a gun, and WoW doesn't allow that probably to keep the balance.
 

omega 616

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Novskij said:
You misread my post, what i mean is, is that realism is boring and cartoonish graphics are not.
I wasn't sure which way to take it to be honest but I took a stab in the dark.

It's all about preference, although I don't see attraction to cartoony graphics.
 

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Kragg said:
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WoW seems to me like a kind of wannabe mmorpg, because from what I've seen there are alot more complex and better mmos out there. It's like people who only play call of duty and call themselves gamers. I don't consider them video gamers at all.
WoW is not complex?

Alright, then, if it is not complex, then tell me the optimal rotation for generating the maximum amount of threat as a paladin tank, and why it is that way. What is Exorcism's role in that, and with your rotation, what is the best sort of weapon to use, a slow or fast weapon? And why?

WoW is simple to learn, but it's a lot more complex than you give it credit for. And it's not 'easy mode' when you're trying to dodge all manor of environmental effects, adjust position of the mobs for maximum output of damage and minimum input of damage, while making sure all your basic cooldown abilities are being used in a timely manner (i.e. every global cooldown.)

Of course, this is without considering the fact that complex and good are not the same word. Rolemaster is a complex roleplaying game. It is also terrible for most players. Most 'complex' MMOs are needlessly complex, confusing things like 'corpse runs' and 'grinding for days for a level' and 'You lose xp for dying' and 'useless abilities that are traps for the player' with 'difficulty.'

Difficulty implies that some sort of skill is involved.

Punishing a player for actually bothering to try to play and learn your game is making the game difficult to like, not difficult to play. Critically speaking, unlikeability is a bad trait for a game.
well this just proves that its as complex as riding a bike really? you learn it once and never look back, i suppose patches change things up once in a while. its basic "dont stand in the fire" gameplay and rotation combat
And what is more complex than that out there, that does so without sacrificing available and enjoyable game play?
 

Thyunda

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I never really expected this thread to take off the way it has done, but thanks to you all, it's gone off like a rocket. :)

I thank you for avoiding flaming, too. That's always nice to read.

Akira Fumi said:
Novskij said:
You misread my post, what i mean is, is that realism is boring and cartoonish graphics are not.
A nice opinion, and usually I would agree but WoW's graphics are becoming dated in my opinion. I did like how it was less of a choke on your system though due to that, and at highest max quality it does still look pretty nice. Just not as good as other titles do at the max. Personally, I do not mind cartoony graphics as long as their presented well or they generally look good.
Though I agree with your post for the most part, there is one thing I'd argue with. Dated? Really? I don't think that's really the right word, I wouldn't have WoW looking any different than it does now. I will admit they are much older-looking than the newer, or even just higher requiring MMOs. EVE Online, for example, ran so slowly on my machines. I always have the best specced computer I can, but somehow, it still sucked.
World of Warcraft was refreshing in the way that it can be played on pretty much any graphics engine, and feels like it doesn't take itself too seriously, unless the player wants to take it seriously.

And I know you weren't criticising the graphics, exactly. I chose your post because it suited my argument and it was easily accessible.
 

Vitor Goncalves

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To me:
-Easy to learn: agreed
-Challenging: I don't. At level 10 I could aggro hordes of ennemies over my level (5 at a time) and kill them all in a matter of minutes, just by spamming.
-Lacks the grind: What the hell? All the quests are the same, kill kill kill and kill.
-Level up fast: for me fast is guild wars style level up to max in 3 hours. I played lots of WoW during my free month, and I got to level 17. True, I wasn't sure of what I was doing, but it was all boring as heck.
A game where you level in 3 hours? Thats not much point with that either. But playing a lot of wow on your free month and get to 17? If I played a lot of wow in a month, and I mean a lot, would have probably 3 or 4 80's.
 

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Akira Fumi said:
That's fine, and I will agree that the ability to play it on lower end computers is probably why more people have access to it. Let's face it, forking over the cash for the top of the line hardware in order to make computers run all the current generation graphics for the newer titles in the MMO Lineup isn't cheap. WoW does have this in it's favor, while the graphics don't fail by any means, they can still be tweaked for even lower end PC users.
Amusingly enough, though, my previous computer died because of WoW. Even with the game's low graphics requirement, it still managed to burn my graphics card out.
My computer illiterate parents flipped. Somehow, this was the fault of downloads. Yes. Files sent via MSN inexplicably target your graphics card, I've noticed.
 

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What is wrong about World of Warcraft is....well, most of the people i meet playing it really
we have all been there, doing the grinding for materials/rep/questitems and then you run into other players who need the same.
At first i usually invited them to team up and such, but most people decline and then start /w yelling at you for 'stealing their shit'.

It's the other players that ruined it for me.

Also, gearscores and achievements and how they ruined random raiding. H
Having raidbosses becoming such technical fights that they are hardly enjoyable anymore. I dont mind the difficulty, but if 1 person does 1 misstep, it's all over for everybody else and then the yelling starts again.
-50 dkp anyone? you know what i mean.
 

Thyunda

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Sjakie said:
What is wrong about World of Warcraft is....well, most of the people i meet playing it really
we have all been there, doing the grinding for materials/rep/questitems and then you run into other players who need the same.
At first i usually invited them to team up and such, but most people decline and then start /w yelling at you for 'stealing their shit'.

It's the other players that ruined it for me.

Also, gearscores and achievements and how they ruined random raiding. H
Having raidbosses becoming such technical fights that they are hardly enjoyable anymore. I dont mind the difficulty, but if 1 person does 1 misstep, it's all over for everybody else and then the yelling starts again.
-50 dkp anyone? you know what i mean.
That was an argument I mentioned in the OP. I brought up the fact I play on a private server, and so don't have to put up with the irritating people. You weren't supposed to bring that one up....that's more an attack on the general online community than it is on the game.

You give me an example of an online community where that kind of people do not exist. Close-knit communities, such as that of Fallen Earth, at least thus far, don't count.

Akira Fumi said:
Haha, that really sucks. I have a similar story. Somehow, I had my hard drive die when I entered Dalaran too fast (or was it too slow?) and it just gave me a BSOD and yeah, that was the end of that. :/
I do wish you'd quote my posts, otherwise I have no idea when you're replying.
 

saber152

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WoW just seems so repetitive to me, click on monster, attack monster, get hit, so one and so forth. I'll admit that the game's appeal is for those who get to the higher levels i'm guessing round 30-40 but a lot of the time I don't make it past 15, i also admit that playing with friends can make it better because well for starters leveling goes faster and at least it beats reading the trade chat for entertainment. the game like any other has a ton of jerks and kids playing who act well like jerks and kids not really much we can do about it aside from ignore them and resume playing, true you'll run into plenty of friendly players who are willing to help ya if u need it. honestly it's all on personal preference i mean Blizzard does a good job keeping the game alive with patches and events so it's all up to the people who want to try it out, if they don't like it then to bad fer them it they did then trow them a party.
 

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I did enjoy WoW for quite a bit of time, mostly due to my abundance of free time and lack of a girlfriend, although that last part may have been in the "effect" category.

The problem is with the endgame content. I'm one of those unfortunate saps who have enough time to play the game but not enough of a consistent schedule to raid. As a result I had the option at the end to
A. Start over like some kind of hardcore "twinking" maneuver
B. Quit the game
C. Grind in instances for a bit then quit the game

I opted for C. However, it did give enough of an adventure that my warlock will always hold a place in my heart.

As for why it sucks now, the stupid thing has been so nerfed that almost all of the skill has been taken out of it. In short, you can't really play it anymore.
 

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Doitpow said:
It rewards you for how much you play it, not how well you play it.
I don't know about pve, but you can log in for like an few hours a week for arena and still get high enough rated to buy everything, if you're good enough to win a majority of your games.
 

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I hate it because it made me unnaturally pale. But I still play it. I hate myself.