Red Dead Redemption for sure. It's probably my favorite story in a game. I was literally crying like a baby during the end scenes.
I think it's more correct to say the plot is limited. Folktales, myths, and fables are also examples of stories that are excellent as stories but extremely shallow plot-wise. That's okay - more plot =/= better plot.kalakashi said:But you see that's the difference between a great story and great story-telling techniques. Like '127 Hours' (which I haven't seen but know the story of), as you say it's in the execution, not the story. That's a good director, a good scriptwriter etc. but the actual story itself is obviously extremely limited.Cuppa Tetleys said:snip
Good point actually, I guess it depends on what you mean by a good story. I was arguing in terms of originality/twists etc. but like you say, a captivating story is a good one too, regardless of complexity =]Cuppa Tetleys said:But isn't the story telling method part of the story itself? I understand your viewpoint; they are different things, but they both contribute to the experience and it is therefore irrelevant. To me, a simple story well told is still a good story. I suppose this is a subjective matter.
Yes but the bullying of the skull kid makes Majora's Mask stand out. The dark tone and a theme of rejection really makes it one of the better Zelda's in terms of storytelling. And some of the side quest stories, like the girl who waits for her lover as the moon descends to crush her are very touching. Wind Waker is there for the way they tell the opening story of Link losing his sister using only Link's eyes. Most of the game is told through his expressions (there was a reason they went with that big cartoon face). Also the descent into the underwater castle (in black and white) is very memorable. As is the final battle.Cuppa Tetleys said:Aha! Nice to see Ico in there, thank you. I have a bit of a problem with the stories of Nintendo's main franchises in terms of story - there's just something to formulaic about each game for the stories to ever seem anything but adaptations of the original. Freaking love the games though.floppylobster said:These are games with stories that have 'heart', and that to me makes them good -
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Lock's Quest
Chronotrigger
Shadow of the Colossus
Ico
Another World (Out of this World)
Zelda: Majora's Mask
Zelda: Wind Waker
*Wipes head* Wheeeew! Glad i'm not the only one! xDTrivun said:I'm going to be one of the controversial people here and say that I believe the Halo games have one of the best stories in any game, of all time (aside from certain JRPGs such as Chrono Trigger, and games like Heavy Rain, of course). My reasoning is simple, they have a good plot backed up by good, well-written characters, but that's not all. At the end of the day, the Halo universe has one of the most in-depth, expansive, and well designed backstories and expanded universes I've seen outside the likes of Warhammer and Star Wars. The books, the anime, the comics, everything else that Halo has created, have lent brilliance to an already amazing story, written by people with a genuine talent. It may sound odd, but Halo is up there with the likes of the early FF games and Fahrenheit (aka Indigo Prophecy) for me when it comes to game stories.
I have heard that Majora's mask was darker then the rest and that intrigued me, but I've never actually played it, so you're the more informed one about that one. I've played Wind waker, A link to the past, Minish cap and twilight princess and I would say that none of those possess great stories, so I just made an assumption based on that.floppylobster said:Yes but the bullying of the skull kid makes Majora's Mask stand out. The dark tone and a theme of rejection really makes it one of the better Zelda's in terms of storytelling. And some of the side quest stories, like the girl who waits for her lover as the moon descends to crush her are very touching. Wind Waker is there for the way they tell the opening story of Link losing his sister using only Link's eyes. Most of the game is told through his expressions (there was a reason they went with that big cartoon face). Also the descent into the underwater castle (in black and white) is very memorable. As is the final battle.Cuppa Tetleys said:Aha! Nice to see Ico in there, thank you. I have a bit of a problem with the stories of Nintendo's main franchises in terms of story - there's just something to formulaic about each game for the stories to ever seem anything but adaptations of the original. Freaking love the games though.floppylobster said:These are games with stories that have 'heart', and that to me makes them good -
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Lock's Quest
Chronotrigger
Shadow of the Colossus
Ico
Another World (Out of this World)
Zelda: Majora's Mask
Zelda: Wind Waker
I agree also. Shallow and pendantic.Cuppa Tetleys said:Yeah, I gave Bioshock 2 a miss, just because the first one was such a well made, self-contained story, I thought the effect could only be diluted with a sequel. I'll definitely take a look at Persona 4, I've heard it's really good, but I can't stress enough how much Chrono Trigger should be played. It's the kind of game where it get's better the more you play it; and by the point where you're performing side quests involving characters' back stories by travelling through time at will, it's undoubtedly the best JRPG you've ever played. Not to spoil anything but there's one particular sequence where you must try to save a character in game, but you don't have the means to do so, and thus you must watch things unravel while you furiously attempt everything to no avail. It gave me chills.MamushiLT said:I agree with Bioshock I was disappointed with Bioshock 2 but that was mainly because there wasn't a need for a sequel, I only got about half way through Chrono Trigger but it was engaging nonetheless I have to replay that at some point. Mass Effect was good but I prefer Mass Effect 2 just because it pulled a massive U-turn from the get go after you've gotten used to everything from the first game. My favourite however is Persona 4 a game I highly recommend. The story was fantastic and i was surprised throughout the entire game, especially at about the 3/4 mark of the game.Cuppa Tetleys said:Bioshock
Chrono Trigger
Mass Effect (all of them)
Ya, really, I got so tired of the story, just boring to me. There were a couple of relationships and races that I liked hearing about, but I didn't care at all for anybody in the game. I also agree that DA2 was lame story wise.GiantRaven said:Mass Effect can be thought of to have a great story? That must have passed me by somewhere. The setting and character interactions are awesome but the main storyline is dull as ditchwater. Even Dragon AGE 2 (to use a 'contraversial' example, although I think it's pretty damn good) had a more interesting and impact up main story than Mass Effect.