What happened to Caramel Frappe?

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Marik2

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Gauche said:
Why the account wipe?

(Apologies for the user directed thread)
I was about to ask that too. Noticed he wiped his account a few days ago.

Silentpony said:
Kaleion said:
Last time I spoke with him he was really disillusioned with the community and clearly having been the community manager caused him a lot of stress to the point that he stopped interacting with the community, I think he was just done with this place which is a shame because he was a really nice guy but now you know the consequences of being such huge jerks.
The Wild West was a mistake. Always was, always will be. Its a drag on the site and the users. The sooner its closed for good, the better.
A couple of people snapped at him when he became the manager. He made a thread in off topic, and people kept nagging him about everything.
 

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Marik2 said:
Gauche said:
Why the account wipe?

(Apologies for the user directed thread)
I was about to ask that too. Noticed he wiped his account a few days ago.

Silentpony said:
Kaleion said:
Last time I spoke with him he was really disillusioned with the community and clearly having been the community manager caused him a lot of stress to the point that he stopped interacting with the community, I think he was just done with this place which is a shame because he was a really nice guy but now you know the consequences of being such huge jerks.
The Wild West was a mistake. Always was, always will be. Its a drag on the site and the users. The sooner its closed for good, the better.
A couple of people snapped at him when he became the manager. He made a thread in off topic, and people kept nagging him about everything.
I don't blame Frappe for the Wild West. My point is that people are saying 'Well, what do you expect with such a toxic community' while completely ignoring the cesspool of toxicity that is the Wild West.
The self-same people who are here, lamenting Frappe and blaming the toxicity of the site are the same people who go to the WW, call someone a fag and giving that shit a quick view, call things retarded, or talk about orgasming with a meat tenderizer up their ass, or asking if gays are going to hell.

But boo-hoo Frappe, why did he leave us???
 

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Its a wonder how he ever got the job given how this is how he started. By default I guess.

(He only got moderately better behind the scenes. You guys don't even know. He put on a great face for public.)

http://i65.tinypic.com/21kkv89.jpg


Honestly thought that was forgotten about.
Lol I remember that. He had a tendency to flip out over a small warning, and he loved his badges
 

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I like Caramel Frappe. Did some pics for him when I had a yearning to draw a while back. Was asked by him to join one of the games, too, and then was promoted to DM for a while, and while I could afford the time I had a blast (again, my apologies to those who were in on that one, I got swamped and couldn't maintain the game as I would have liked).
 

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Gethsemani said:
I wiped his profile and stole his mod powers. I am Caramel Frappe now and anyone who wipes me and steals my powers will become him too.
so that futurama episode where Fry Drinks the emperor and becomes emperor? and Fry's assassin will be his successor, and then Fry's assassin's assassin and so forth?

Back on topic, It's a shame to see Frappe leave. was a swell fellow from what I could tell.
 

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Silentpony said:
I'm surprised how much you hate the WW. You were even given pub club after the massive handout so you could have access to it.
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Oh man, I was wondering why I hadn't seen Frappe post in a while. Every time I saw that the last quiz hadn't changed in forever I would wonder what happened to him, but I hadn't ever got around to checking his profile. Too bad, another one gone :/

I really, really hate it when people scrub their accounts though. I like looking at the old threads sometimes and now they are missing something forever.

And Gethsemani is a mod now too? I wonder how long until they'll have to make me a mod, because we're starting to run pretty low on users now. What's my number in succession to the mod throne?
 

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Silentpony said:
Says the person posting anime reaction gifs. That's not even the pot calling the kettle black. That's just a whole new level of lack of awareness.

If you post shitty anime memes, you don't get to complain when someone points out you're posting shitty anime memes.
You seem to like using phrases when they're not appropriate for what you're addressing. It's cute.

But yeah, I figured I'd make a bit more of an effort.

My first impulse, being that you weren't worth more than a gif, just happened to be dead on.
 

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Drathnoxis said:
I like looking at the old threads sometimes and now they are missing something forever.
Yeah, some butthurt members of my old forum used to ask for ALL their posts to be deleted. I politely told them to piss off. My forum also had edit history, so even if they wanted to, they couldn't erase them by editing them.

If something is posted on the internet, it's pretty much there to stay. I'm not gonna damage my own forum because you have a delusion that deleting all your posts will somehow magically make people forget every single thing you posted.
 

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What is this Wild West thing?
It's a "no rules" subforum for people with an active subscription. Which is surprisingly many, but that's because apparently a severely disgruntled tech team gave a permanent subscription for free to most active users upon being suddenly laid off.
Oh dang, wish I'd been around for that. What sort of stuff goes on over there?
Not much. It's pretty much no different than the other forums. Free Speech hasn't bettered or worsened the general discourse. Like R&P, political discussions devolve into partisanism spouting lines from each sides playbook.

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I'm all for Defy taking their part of the blame and they definitely don't want to take responsibility for this site. Don't let that be a scapegoat for us taking our responsibility too.
Honestly, I don't think we ever had an opportunity to take responsibility for pretty much anything so it's completely irrelevant what the community did or didn't want, and WW is really just a mere distraction from the main issue of the site being completely fucking abandoned except for Yahtzee vids.
The biggest Problem is that we aren't really a community. The Rules are designed to promote a kind of faux-politeness so everything devolves into passive-agressive snark. Grudges are carried over between Threads because we can't be honest to each other. It also doesn't help that we lack any kind of Chat Thread that would allow us to simply talk about out Day to Day lives and actually get a better picture of the people behind the posts.

Really nothing is stopping us from collecting packing up our shit and moving on to a place where we would actually have control. I even considered trying to set something up at one point. But it wouldn't work, so why bother?
I don't think we're a community for one reason. All sides of politics seems to be accepted here. Other sites usually involve draconian mods enforcing a particular ideology. Having one major ideology makes it easier to develop a community. No matter what anyone says to the contrary, I've found mods here less likely to enforce their baises onto others. Most people complaining about mods just want the site to be like most others, either left or right. Despite what Sargon states, the Escapists didn't fall into one side even during GG. It's the major reason I still hang around. I can talk to someone with a different ideology without being insulted.
 

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If a Caramel Frappe falls in the forest, and the Escapist is empty, does it make a sound?

RIP
 

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In the spirit of another in this thread, I'll throw out something for CF on the odd chance that he reads this thread.

You're a good guy, Caramel, I hope that you're doing ok. Yeah you flew off the handle sometimes, yeah you overreacted here and there, yeah you took things badly when there was no need to. But you are also a sterling example that people are capable of self betterment. I've been on the site for a long time, and lurked long before Yahtzee came on the scene, and in that time I saw you do something that I have seen painfully few times both on and offline. You grew up, you matured, you made yourself into a better person - slowly but surely.

I didn't like you the first time I read your posts. This is something I do. I used to obsessively read forums, learn people and watch them. Its not meant to be creepy, even in our interactions hence you probably never realized I did it, its just a way I entertain myself. Watching one person is creepy, but when you watch almost everyone it becomes 'people watching' and that's basically what I did. Months away from home working in a tiny town strips a person of their most basic hobbies, and even video games lose their pull over time when played on an electrified graham cracker. So instead I watch and read and think and I make predictions about how a person will respond to this or that thread and I nod my head when I'm right and shrug my shoulders when I'm not. You had a lot of faults, still have plenty but we all do, and I could read most of them like a playbook. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you all they ways I think you sucked, but I am gonna say that you did manage to consistently make me shrug my shoulders, and after a while I thought on it and realized that I wasn't bad at predicting, you were just growing up and changing yourself for the better. So kudos dude. Not enough people make the strides as a person you did in the time you did it.

I really hope you left the way you did because you were making an Irish exit to a party that went too long than thinking you had to sneak off. You don't owe anyone a goodbye, but you also don't deserve to feel like you had flee without a sound. Don't feel bad about not being able to come through on the promises, none of them were going to happen anyway. Another one of your faults is probably promising before you're sure you can deliver, but at least the promises were made with your heart in the right place. Its not like the complainers ever did shit to make this place better to be in, hell half of them have been actively making it worse while unironically blaming a subforum for the decline. If nothing else you had power and you didn't misuse it when you could have, and a younger you likely would have.

Cheers bud, take it easy.

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If you ever want to play SK again, throw me a line - I might even check my pm's more than one a month. Sad but true - life is better for me these days, I rarely get paid to sit on the internet in a trailer in the middle of nowhere anymore, but I'll probably keep watching until there isn't anything left to watch. There's something comforting about watching a place go out the way you watched it come in. At least keeping up takes little enough time it works well with my current schedule.
 

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Drathnoxis said:
Silentpony said:
I'm surprised how much you hate the WW. You were even given pub club after the massive handout so you could have access to it.
I never wanted access to the wild west, I wanted a bigger avatar. And I should clarify I'm not against the idea of a wild west type forum. Somewhere were dudes and dudettes can post shitty 4chan memes and ask if traps are gay, sure why the fuck not?
Its called a Chan and they're everywhere else.
I just think its BS when those self same users ask just what went wrong here and when did everyone get so toxic? Gee, probably around the time they introduced the pro-toxic, rules free shitshow subforum and you joined it to vote on Weebs and post on who has bigger hard-ons for anime tits and ask do Africans count as people.
And if someone wants to post shitting dick nipples, go for it. But they give up their right to complain the site has gone down hill, and that suddenly everyone is posting 4chan memes from 2011.

LostGryphon said:
My first impulse, being that you weren't worth more than a gif, just happened to be dead on.
Oh please, don't put in the extra effort for me. A simple .jpeg of tired anime memes will do my old soul enough. Please. I wouldn't want you to strain something.
 

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bluegate said:
That's a bit of a sad realization, isn't it?

At this point, the Escapist's website is best abandoned, but even if the community were to migrate to a different site, what would "it" do there aside from continue on aimlessly bickering with itself.
It is pretty sad, part of the reason we've not moved is that the user base values specific site features over staying together as a community. I'd put that down to the lack of actual community interaction beyond bickering as you say plus gaming being less specialist and plenty of people getting that itch scratched elsewhere these days.

At this stage given the apathy of the community and the irrelevance of the archived material here, plus the fact the site going down wouldn't give you permission to re-upload it, it's probably best to just let the site die.

Silentpony said:
I never wanted access to the wild west, I wanted a bigger avatar. And I should clarify I'm not against the idea of a wild west type forum. Somewhere were dudes and dudettes can post shitty 4chan memes and ask if traps are gay, sure why the fuck not?
Its called a Chan and they're everywhere else.
The funny thing is that I remember when this site was virulently anti-4chan, it's weird to think the community looked at the thing it had always professed to hate and thought 'yeah...yeah we could use some of that here'. Maybe the community changed, I think it probably did around Gamergate, it just seems so weird that of all the places to have an unmoderated subforum it's the Escapist.
 

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towing the party line at all times or seeing nuance.
The phrase is 'toeing the line'. I tell you this because I don't think that's a spelling error, and a lot of people get this one wrong (I used to) because 'towing the line' makes sense too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line
 

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Fischgopf said:
So... the way to create an echo chamber is to NOT to choose left or right? Does that mean to stop an echo chamber is to choose left or right?

You know that a lot people would think this place is very much right leaning? Sargon declared the site as bastion that supported GG based on Tito's and the mod reaction to it.