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captainwolfos

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Trendkill6 said:
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It died out around when they invented the internet
oooh long before that i'd say
True, true but the internet was the final nail in the coffin.
Then memes just pissed on the grave.
-Blink- Wait, you mean there was such a thing as maturity?
I think it must be a bit before my time.
 

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As a serious answer maturity died out when people started caring too much about their image so decided the only way to be cool is to do the following
1. act like a 3 year old
2. dress like you're 100 pounds heavier
3. make fun of anyone different than you
4. act like a prick whenever you can

I am a extremely mature person (most times) because I don't give a shit about how people see me. If everyone did that we would finally stop judging people get along and create a perfect world. But that will never happen
 

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LeonHellsvite said:
I wasnt trying to be a hero
Bullshit. Every action has motivation. The only reason you would help this person is if you wanted to feel like a hero. It's human nature.

So you were trying to be a hero, and everyone hated you for it. You know why? Nobody likes a random vigilante that gets involved in other peoples business.
Ouch that stings, I honestly knew I wouldnt be showered with praise since the kid was hated, so heroism wasnt my motivation, mine was, I know what its like to be in pain, I had gone through a phase like him before where I thought there were no consequences for my actions, I was proven wrong once and the beating I got was way out of hand and as I see it nobody should get a punishment more sever than deserved, My motivation was

"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"
 

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LeonHellsvite said:
Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
I wasnt trying to be a hero
Bullshit. Every action has motivation. The only reason you would help this person is if you wanted to feel like a hero. It's human nature.

So you were trying to be a hero, and everyone hated you for it. You know why? Nobody likes a random vigilante that gets involved in other peoples business.
Ouch that stings, I honestly knew I wouldnt be showered with praise since the kid was hated, so heroism wasnt my motivation, mine was, I know what its like to be in pain, I had gone through a phase like him before where I thought there were no consequences for my actions, I was proven wrong once and the beating I got was way out of hand and as I see it nobody should get a punishment more sever than deserved, My motivation was

"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"
Your motivation does stem from a desire to be a hero. Your post just proved that to me. You may not realize it, but it does.

Also I went through the same phase. I acted like a moron at one point in my life and people hated me for it. Then I started acting like a vigilante and tried to save other people from being picked on. People still hated me.

I realized why. Being a vigilante was the same as being a moron. In both cases you're an immature fool. In both cases your immaturity prevents you from seeing the errors in your actions. In both cases you look down on everyone else, thinking you're better than them.
 

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A vigilante is as bad as a moron? He is not making himself better, instead he is saying that NOT doing what he did was wrong. I could care less to take a side but still. My point has to be when all things come to rot you need to "Stand up for whats right, even if your standing alone"
 

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When someone is complaining about "kids today", or how childish people "always" seem, they're almost always quoting Aristotle (whether they know it or not). Nothing has happened that makes this generation worse than the last one, or the one before that, etc, etc. It's how people perceive adults as mature when they are young, and then noticing that as they get older, adults are no longer more mature than themselves, and kids have become more childish. Aristotle didn't connect the dots... He had grown up, thus becoming more mature relative to everyone else, and, by consequence, everyone else less mature relative to him. Congratulations on realizing that others are immature, and welcome to adulthood! It sucks... ;-)
 

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the bus thing: brush off the insult,ignore it.

the fight thing: you let the kid get beat up,then helped him. as you said he stopped being a prick.

as for what happened to maturity? it died when people became able to hide behind an avatar on a forum site and thought they could swear more than a drunk sailor without consequences. then they thought they could do it in real life,and it all went to hell.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
I wasnt trying to be a hero
Bullshit. Every action has motivation. The only reason you would help this person is if you wanted to feel like a hero. It's human nature.

So you were trying to be a hero, and everyone hated you for it. You know why? Nobody likes a random vigilante that gets involved in other peoples business.
Ouch that stings, I honestly knew I wouldnt be showered with praise since the kid was hated, so heroism wasnt my motivation, mine was, I know what its like to be in pain, I had gone through a phase like him before where I thought there were no consequences for my actions, I was proven wrong once and the beating I got was way out of hand and as I see it nobody should get a punishment more sever than deserved, My motivation was

"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"
Your motivation does stem from a desire to be a hero. Your post just proved that to me. You may not realize it, but it does.

Also I went through the same phase. I acted like a moron at one point in my life and people hated me for it. Then I started acting like a vigilante and tried to save other people from being picked on. People still hated me.

I realized why. Being a vigilante was the same as being a moron. In both cases you're an immature fool. In both cases your immaturity prevents you from seeing the errors in your actions. In both cases you look down on everyone else, thinking you're better than them.
AGH! Whats the point of arguing, You will keep saying "you wanted to be a hero" and saying I'm immature, our nature makes us want to be better than everyone else if I was subconsiously thinking that fine, but how does that make me immature, the thought didnt cross my mind "I want to be a hero" and the thought didnt cross my mind "Hey look at me I'm better than everyone else for helping someone" so dont twist it to try and use it against me, I'm just dissapointed nobody stood up to help, I am often the black sheep and I like it that way, I dont want to be better than everyone else you know why? Because people will try to be like you, that wouldnt make me the black sheep anymore. Its unfair to be so adamant on an opinion that you twist words or make up your own knowledge instead of simply saying "I'm sorry I was wrong" or anything that makes you lose!

And I know I am immature at many times, but I am mature when need be I only act immature when/if it is appropriate, life would be boring if I didnt
 

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lwm3398 said:
the bus thing: brush off the insult,ignore it.

the fight thing: you let the kid get beat up,then helped him. as you said he stopped being a prick.

as for what happened to maturity? it died when people became able to hide behind an avatar on a forum site and thought they could swear more than a drunk sailor without consequences. then they thought they could do it in real life,and it all went to hell.
I didnt let him get beat up, I walked by and noticed I didnt watch from the start.

And I'm sorry for double posting yet again, but it just doesnt seem apropriate to put this reply in my previous post...
 

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LeonHellsvite said:
Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
I wasnt trying to be a hero
Bullshit. Every action has motivation. The only reason you would help this person is if you wanted to feel like a hero. It's human nature.

So you were trying to be a hero, and everyone hated you for it. You know why? Nobody likes a random vigilante that gets involved in other peoples business.
Ouch that stings, I honestly knew I wouldnt be showered with praise since the kid was hated, so heroism wasnt my motivation, mine was, I know what its like to be in pain, I had gone through a phase like him before where I thought there were no consequences for my actions, I was proven wrong once and the beating I got was way out of hand and as I see it nobody should get a punishment more sever than deserved, My motivation was

"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"
Your motivation does stem from a desire to be a hero. Your post just proved that to me. You may not realize it, but it does.

Also I went through the same phase. I acted like a moron at one point in my life and people hated me for it. Then I started acting like a vigilante and tried to save other people from being picked on. People still hated me.

I realized why. Being a vigilante was the same as being a moron. In both cases you're an immature fool. In both cases your immaturity prevents you from seeing the errors in your actions. In both cases you look down on everyone else, thinking you're better than them.
AGH! Whats the point of arguing, You will keep saying "you wanted to be a hero" and saying I'm immature, our nature makes us want to be better than everyone else if I was subconsiously thinking that fine, but how does that make me immature, the thought didnt cross my mind "I want to be a hero" and the thought didnt cross my mind "Hey look at me I'm better than everyone else for helping someone" so dont twist it to try and use it against me, I'm just dissapointed nobody stood up to help, I am often the black sheep and I like it that way, I dont want to be better than everyone else you know why? Because people will try to be like you, that wouldnt make me the black sheep anymore. Its unfair to be so adamant on an opinion that you twist words or make up your own knowledge instead of simply saying "I'm sorry I was wrong" or anything that makes you lose!

And I know I am immature at many times, but I am mature when need be I only act immature when/if it is appropriate, life would be boring if I didnt
No reason to get so frustrated.

My point is that you claim society lacks maturity, when in reality it doesn't. The one who lacks maturity is yourself. It's because of this immaturity you can't see this.
 

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LeonHellsvite said:
lwm3398 said:
the bus thing: brush off the insult,ignore it.

the fight thing: you let the kid get beat up,then helped him. as you said he stopped being a prick.

as for what happened to maturity? it died when people became able to hide behind an avatar on a forum site and thought they could swear more than a drunk sailor without consequences. then they thought they could do it in real life,and it all went to hell.
I didnt let him get beat up, I walked by and noticed I didnt watch from the start.

And I'm sorry for double posting yet again, but it just doesnt seem apropriate to put this reply in my previous post...
i didn't mean you watched,only that you stopped it when he was hurt enough,punished,not overkilled. you didn't let him not learn his lesson. you let him learn his lesson without getting that hurt.
 

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Maturity (when I say "maturity" I'm talking about being able to accept things as they are, not about being courteous) went the same place logic went a long time ago. They went to a strange place. A place where everyone thinks they have them, but usually don't.

Courteousness is losing ground, and I like it that way. The only problem is that it's not losing ground to reason, it's losing ground to "I think I need to actively harass everyone around me." Reason is apparently lost almost entirely. All the crap people say about "being courteousness" is pretty much all absurd. Why is it wrong for me to value my own life over that of another person's? Why are other people's minor problems more important to me than my own? It's ridiculous! Why can't people learn to either be independent of everyone around them, or learn to analyze an ENTIRE situation, instead of only parts. If people can learn to organize high-priority tasks which will help them in personal, lower-priority tasks, instead of immediately trying to help everyone out with their minor problems, things would be a lot more efficient.



KazuxXxDez said:
Technology doesn't make people stupid? Since when? Most people are too reliant on technology which shows their stupididity. Back on topic, Maturity is gone. The few that still have maturity are out casted by people.
You know, pretty much every modern scientist wouldn't be able to do his or her job without relying on the technology they use. Almost everything we know about the world is a result of us being able to rely on technology to be a better observer and analyst than we could ever be.

Reliance on technology does not make people stupid. Stupidity has always been here. I rely on technology to do most of the things I do in a day. Cooking, working, communicating, being entertained.

Technology is simply another way in which stupidity can be observed. A person who would not know how to survive without technology could be called somewhat stupid.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
I wasnt trying to be a hero
Bullshit. Every action has motivation. The only reason you would help this person is if you wanted to feel like a hero. It's human nature.

So you were trying to be a hero, and everyone hated you for it. You know why? Nobody likes a random vigilante that gets involved in other peoples business.
Ouch that stings, I honestly knew I wouldnt be showered with praise since the kid was hated, so heroism wasnt my motivation, mine was, I know what its like to be in pain, I had gone through a phase like him before where I thought there were no consequences for my actions, I was proven wrong once and the beating I got was way out of hand and as I see it nobody should get a punishment more sever than deserved, My motivation was

"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"
Your motivation does stem from a desire to be a hero. Your post just proved that to me. You may not realize it, but it does.

Also I went through the same phase. I acted like a moron at one point in my life and people hated me for it. Then I started acting like a vigilante and tried to save other people from being picked on. People still hated me.

I realized why. Being a vigilante was the same as being a moron. In both cases you're an immature fool. In both cases your immaturity prevents you from seeing the errors in your actions. In both cases you look down on everyone else, thinking you're better than them.
AGH! Whats the point of arguing, You will keep saying "you wanted to be a hero" and saying I'm immature, our nature makes us want to be better than everyone else if I was subconsiously thinking that fine, but how does that make me immature, the thought didnt cross my mind "I want to be a hero" and the thought didnt cross my mind "Hey look at me I'm better than everyone else for helping someone" so dont twist it to try and use it against me, I'm just dissapointed nobody stood up to help, I am often the black sheep and I like it that way, I dont want to be better than everyone else you know why? Because people will try to be like you, that wouldnt make me the black sheep anymore. Its unfair to be so adamant on an opinion that you twist words or make up your own knowledge instead of simply saying "I'm sorry I was wrong" or anything that makes you lose!

And I know I am immature at many times, but I am mature when need be I only act immature when/if it is appropriate, life would be boring if I didnt
No reason to get so frustrated.

My point is that you claim society lacks maturity, when in reality it doesn't. The one who lacks maturity is yourself. It's because of this immaturity you can't see this.
What, so basicaly, society is mature when they dont help someone and simply insult someone, and yet we are not mature when we stand up for someone whos begging for mercy, and when we help someone who has fallen down, you, really need some priorities... I see the good in a select few other people, I wish it was more, but sadly, I cannot...
 

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LeonHellsvite said:
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Mature highschoolers? They never did exist.

If you're a highschooler and think you're mature... you aren't. You're just faking it. You haven't had any life experience, your hand is still being held for you, I don't care if you work a part time job.

Buy a house, live out on your own, pay your own bills, buy your own gas, your own games.

Then look back at what life was like before that level of responsibility- and you too will agree with my first statement.
I know I'm not as mature as can be after all, I am only 16, but faking it... Thats not true I don't fake maturity, thats just as bad as being immature
LeonHellsvite, you're wrong, or at least in my eyes. I'm also 16, and I would consider you mature. You helped up and strange when he fell, and you hold your tongue when the one guy said something to you. You also stopped a fight when you knew that a kid you didn't like would of be beaten up. To a lot of people, you would be considered mature.
 

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lonercs said:
LeonHellsvite said:
Dyskresiac said:
Mature highschoolers? They never did exist.

If you're a highschooler and think you're mature... you aren't. You're just faking it. You haven't had any life experience, your hand is still being held for you, I don't care if you work a part time job.

Buy a house, live out on your own, pay your own bills, buy your own gas, your own games.

Then look back at what life was like before that level of responsibility- and you too will agree with my first statement.
I know I'm not as mature as can be after all, I am only 16, but faking it... Thats not true I don't fake maturity, thats just as bad as being immature
LeonHellsvite, you're wrong, or at least in my eyes. I'm also 16, and I would consider you mature. You helped up and strange when he fell, and you hold your tongue when the one guy said something to you. You also stopped a fight when you knew that a kid you didn't like would of be beaten up. To a lot of people, you would be considered mature.
Well, thanks, first overall posotive response, I gotta say you are mature for seeing even if you dont like someone, you can still help

and congrats on being the first to also directly refer to me ><
 

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Humanity is just bullshit as a hole. This world would be a better place without us
 

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LeonHellsvite said:
Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
Internet Kraken said:
LeonHellsvite said:
I wasnt trying to be a hero
Bullshit. Every action has motivation. The only reason you would help this person is if you wanted to feel like a hero. It's human nature.

So you were trying to be a hero, and everyone hated you for it. You know why? Nobody likes a random vigilante that gets involved in other peoples business.
Ouch that stings, I honestly knew I wouldnt be showered with praise since the kid was hated, so heroism wasnt my motivation, mine was, I know what its like to be in pain, I had gone through a phase like him before where I thought there were no consequences for my actions, I was proven wrong once and the beating I got was way out of hand and as I see it nobody should get a punishment more sever than deserved, My motivation was

"If you could have prevented someones death if you were perfectly capable and 100% able to do it, and you stoof by and let the person die, are you not as bad as the one who killed him?"
Your motivation does stem from a desire to be a hero. Your post just proved that to me. You may not realize it, but it does.

Also I went through the same phase. I acted like a moron at one point in my life and people hated me for it. Then I started acting like a vigilante and tried to save other people from being picked on. People still hated me.

I realized why. Being a vigilante was the same as being a moron. In both cases you're an immature fool. In both cases your immaturity prevents you from seeing the errors in your actions. In both cases you look down on everyone else, thinking you're better than them.
AGH! Whats the point of arguing, You will keep saying "you wanted to be a hero" and saying I'm immature, our nature makes us want to be better than everyone else if I was subconsiously thinking that fine, but how does that make me immature, the thought didnt cross my mind "I want to be a hero" and the thought didnt cross my mind "Hey look at me I'm better than everyone else for helping someone" so dont twist it to try and use it against me, I'm just dissapointed nobody stood up to help, I am often the black sheep and I like it that way, I dont want to be better than everyone else you know why? Because people will try to be like you, that wouldnt make me the black sheep anymore. Its unfair to be so adamant on an opinion that you twist words or make up your own knowledge instead of simply saying "I'm sorry I was wrong" or anything that makes you lose!

And I know I am immature at many times, but I am mature when need be I only act immature when/if it is appropriate, life would be boring if I didnt
No reason to get so frustrated.

My point is that you claim society lacks maturity, when in reality it doesn't. The one who lacks maturity is yourself. It's because of this immaturity you can't see this.
What, so basicaly, society is mature when they dont help someone and simply insult someone, and yet we are not mature when we stand up for someone whos begging for mercy, and when we help someone who has fallen down, you, really need some priorities... I see the good in a select few other people, I wish it was more, but sadly, I cannot...
You have very narrow view on that fight. You said yourself that you didn't' see how it started. You just randomly came in and tried to stop it. You had no right to enter that conflict. For all you know that kid could have been making racial slurs or threatening people, or something you might find to be terrible. That kid isn't going to see the error in his actions. You stepping in to save him gives him the idea that the person beating him was wrong. This will eliminate the idea that he was at fault from his mind. Instead he will think that the other person was wrong.

Also I have no problem with what you did on the bus. Just keep in mind that the actions of one idiot does not reflect the actions of an entire society.

Also a lot of the places you place commas you should be putting in periods. Without them your paragraph is just a giant run-on sentence. It would be easier to read if it wasn't.