What I want from Rogue One

[Saelune]

On the topic of Rey and her abilities...well, they actively showed Luke training. On the Falcon with the training sphere, and hell, most of the second movie was Luke training, intensely, and struggling at first too.

 

[Zontar]

I figured it had more to do with him having been shot by a fucking bowcaster five minutes beforehand.

Master swordsman or not, it's hard to do much of anything with a sucking chest wound.

Yet he seemed perfectly fine fighting afterwards. Injury or not he's a Sith knight fighting against a janitor turned infantry and a starving scavenger who's never held a sword before. Even with his injuries the fight should have still been one-sided in his favour.

I don't get it, dude - one minute you're saying he was underperforming, the next you're saying that he was perfectly fine. Which is it?

And you're being a little hard on Finn and Rey. Finn was still a stormtrooper, so he's at least gone to boot camp. And Rey has spent her entire life since childhood beating off larger, meaner scavengers with a stick.

Uh...that came out wrong. I meant that she was hitting them with the stick. Not...yeah.

Look, it didn't bother me that much that she beats Kylo. It's both a wake-up call to the villain and his inherited sense of entitled superiority, and it's adequately foreshadowed with Rey being a fairly fit-looking lady who was shown beating up dudes on Jakku and Kylo being, you know, shot with a bowcaster five minutes ago. Shit, he probably hasn't even had a decent sword duel in years. He's just been force-choking people and growling.

No, the dumb part was how the Rebels got away scot-free with blowing up an entire weaponised planet, which appeared to house most of the First Order's civilization...and all those other conscripted stormtroopers, who are in the exact same boat Finn was a week ago. I mean, that's like glassing North Korea with nuclear weapons because they bombed Seoul.

[sub]And people still said Man of Steel was the more depressing movie! At least Man of Steel presented its wanton collateral damage as a bad thing! Every time the Rebels blow up a moon's worth of people, they start cheering![/sub]

Honestly my issue is with a lot of things in the movie, because it's a horrendously written one. I don't think I'd be as upset if people stopped actively pretending Rey isn't a textbook example of a Mary Sue (let alone one at all) and that pretty much every character was horribly written. The fight scene stands out because of how much of an asspull its outcome was, with my stance being firmly that someone smarter then Abrams wrote the first draft with the roles reversed between the two and then Abrams either intentionally or not flipped it for whatever reason (because beat for beat, it works better if it's reversed).

 

[pookie101]

i want to see lots of pew pew, some interesting characters and the odd funny line and ill be happy

also seeing lots of bothans dying would be nice.

as for the force awakens, it was disney's taking over the franchise, and it was always going to be a mix of old and new rather than them starting from scratch. personally i liked finn and rey's story