What if 9/11 happened in another country?

[Heeman89]

"Americans wouldn't care at all by now"

True. The reason we care so much about 9/11 is because it was an attack on civilians directed at our country. We had lived in decades of security, because nobody had ever tried something like this.

Basically, the reason we all (Americans) remembered 9/11 is because it shook the idea that America was a safe place to live.

A safe place to live? over 10000 people were killed because because of the first amendment which allows anyone to own a gun in the year 2000. I believe the figure for 11/9/2001 was around 3000.

It's hard for me to take you seriously when you don't even know what amendment it is

OT: I think its amazing that just because SOME citizens of the US of A are pricks that this forum generally assumes that all of them are pricks... I remember sitting around the phone back in the 90s waiting on relatives to call from the UK because of seeing IRA bombings on the TV and no one in my family thought they were "Freedom Fighters" I remember watching TV in 05 when then London subway was bombed and it was heartbreaking that even though all the security measure that were taken after the IRA bombings and 9/11 that people were still attacking that country

So yeah don't just assume that all Americans are shit, some of us do care what goes on in other countries

 

[Commissar Sae]

"Americans wouldn't care at all by now"

True. The reason we care so much about 9/11 is because it was an attack on civilians directed at our country. We had lived in decades of security, because nobody had ever tried something like this.

Basically, the reason we all (Americans) remembered 9/11 is because it shook the idea that America was a safe place to live.

A safe place to live? over 10000 people were killed because because of the first amendment which allows anyone to own a gun in the year 2000. I believe the figure for 11/9/2001 was around 3000.

It's hard for me to take you seriously when you don't even know what amendment it is

OT: I think its amazing that just because SOME citizens of the US of A are pricks that this forum generally assumes that all of them are pricks... I remember sitting around the phone back in the 90s waiting on relatives to call from the UK because of seeing IRA bombings on the TV and no one in my family thought they were "Freedom Fighters" I remember watching TV in 05 when then London subway was bombed and it was heartbreaking that even though all the security measure that were taken after the IRA bombings and 9/11 that people were still attacking that country

So yeah don't just assume that all Americans are shit, some of us do care what goes on in other countries

Very true, most people tend to care about bad things happening to other people and sympathize with their loss. However I can guarantee there wouldn't be any news channels having major discussions 10 years after the event if it had happened to another country. Most of the Americans I've met online or in person have been pretty good people, but the vocal dipshit minority makes your entire country look bad a lot of the time.

 

[ChickenZombie]

We americans suck at putting important things first. Dying celebrities? Biggest news ever. Terrorist attack on our land? Years or remembering and crap like that. A nuclear reactor melts down and the occupants of the area need aid? We will say "That sucks" for a month, and then forget it ever happened, even though we never did anything to really help.


We need a wakeup call. I can see why countries hate America, it sucks dealing with all the idiots here.

 

[El Poncho]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London#Irish_republican_attacks_during_.22the_Troubles.22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Just some examples...

Fair enough, I knew there were some but not that many. I still find it hard to sympathise when I actually come from an area that had a high rate of bombings, though.

The point is though that America didn't care for Britain, they were all for the IRA. No sympathy is expected.

What?

No, you are taking the opinion of SOME American's and attributing it to all of us. There's 300 million of us. Chances are the idiot with the microphone doesn't speak for the majority.

Seriously, it's like you saying "Because some British people agree with Al-Queda, all British people are terrorist supporters." It's not only entirely incorrect, it also approaches levels of silliness that are usually reserved for a Monty Python sketch. Do not attempt to turn terrorism into a comedy skit.

Sorry for the generalising I wasn't entirely thinking when writing that post, was thinking some, said all >.>

 

[Gorobrin]

I think 7/7 says it all really..
I know not as many people died, but it was still a terrorist attack.

People act like 9/11 was the only terrorist attack that has ever happened.
I do feel sorry for those involved.

However i can bet that a lot of people will be thinking whats 7/7?
Why is there no news back on its anniversaries?
Because the Americans don't give a fuck.

I'm sure plenty of Americans would care about 7/7 If the news actually reported on it

 

[FernandoV]

If 9/11 happened in another country, you would get nothing but "that's for *insert retarded reason here*."

For instance, if it was in Europe you would get "That's for World War II!"

A little sad, really.

Sad that your hypothetical is probably untrue?

When the earthquake hit Japan earlier this year you had a bunch of retards saying "thats for Pearl harbour". So I think his hypothesis stands.

Oh wow, there are insensitive people...in a country? Whoah, hold on there, you just stumbled upon groundbreaking stuff.

So you do agree that this hypothesis would stand?
Hope it happens again, fucking CIA routing illegal prisoners through my country

Obviously SOMEONE would say that, don't imply that the majority would.

 

[Optiluiz]

9/11 wasn't that bad. Worse things happen everyday. So what if it happened in America? Had it happened anywhere else no one would care.. Except the country involved...

 

[genericusername64]

I'm just ready for everybody to get over it already

 

[Iron Mal]

If 9/11 happened in another country, you would get nothing but "that's for *insert retarded reason here*."

For instance, if it was in Europe you would get "That's for World War II!"

A little sad, really.

Sadly this is more true than most of us would like to admit, anyone else remember the large number of people who's response to the earthquakes in Japan were 'that's for Pearl Harbour!'?

Back on topic though, it is true that if 9/11 happened anywhere else then I doubt that we'd be given constant reminders to 'always remember' (not to mention that we'd probably be calling it 11/9 on the few times we did bring it up again).

While I don't mean this as a slant at all American people, it does seem that 9/11 has more people crying over it purely because it happened to the otherwise supposedly invincable super-power that is America (apparantly it's different when it's your home that's in the firing line).

Where's our commercials asking for us to pull together and the threads asking where you were on 7/7?

 

[Mozza444]

I think 7/7 says it all really..
I know not as many people died, but it was still a terrorist attack.

People act like 9/11 was the only terrorist attack that has ever happened.
I do feel sorry for those involved.

However i can bet that a lot of people will be thinking whats 7/7?
Why is there no news back on its anniversaries?
Because the Americans don't give a fuck.

I'm sure plenty of Americans would care about 7/7 If the news actually reported on it

Yes some would, but English civilians dying is obviously not such a big deal for American news.
However us Brits have showed respect for 10 years.
Its a fucking joke we get none back.

 

[riles481]

I think a good example to show how little a lot of people care about the reverse of a "9/11 situation" can be demonstrated by the resulting deaths which were caused both directly and indirectly by U.S. invasion Iraq which was virtually a knee-jerk reactions to 9/11 (yes there were other "valid" excuses and reasons given, but without 9/11 invasion wouldn't have been on the table.) These death's can be most easily demonstrated by the most convenient source possible, Wikipedia.

Iraq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
Casualties run between 100,000 and 600,000 during various time periods depending on when the study was performed.

Now it isn't true that all Americans simply don't care, but how many Americans actually know about the casualties and the turmoil that resulted in the years following invasion? How many have had the motivation to be proactive about ending the suffering? Conversely, how many Americans will quote to you "we will never forget," especially in the past few weeks/months? Doesn't it seem somewhat coarse to continually insist that we never forget the tragedy of a few thousand lives when we, day by day, forget the tens of thousands who have died as a result? In remembering our one tragedy over countless of others we've in effect made them the "most important" tragedy that has ever happened in recent times and this under-valuing of non-American lives quite frankly sickens me.

Of course those affected by 9/11 should remember those lost, but we should all remember that far worse tragedies can (and did) happen and that many of us gave our consent, either through approval or apathy, to the deaths of all those civilians in Iraq AND Afghanistan (which I didn't use as an example earlier).


Side note:

If 9/11 happened in another country, you would get nothing but "that's for *insert retarded reason here*."

For instance, if it was in Europe you would get "That's for World War II!"

A little sad, really.

Sad that your hypothetical is probably untrue?

When the earthquake hit Japan earlier this year you had a bunch of retards saying "thats for Pearl harbour". So I think his hypothesis stands.

Oh wow, there are insensitive people...in a country? Whoah, hold on there, you just stumbled upon groundbreaking stuff.

He proves his hypothetical stands and instead of "I see your point," sarcasm. So very classy.

 

[Saltyk]

Awww. I love you non-American Escapists as well. I'd talk dirty about all your countries, but honestly, who cares? And I'm not willing to generalize you all just because I'm butt hurt over what has happened.

OT: If 9/11 (or 11/9 for those of you in superior countries that don't have retarded dating systems) happened in another country and on the same scale, I think Americans would care. Just like we cared about Haiti. Japan. Egypt. Libya. Israel and Palestine. I know those aren't terrorist acts, but they are all large scale tragedies. And yes, people do care about them. Or, at least, I care about them. And I'm an American. Go figure.

 

[FernandoV]

If 9/11 happened in another country, you would get nothing but "that's for *insert retarded reason here*."

For instance, if it was in Europe you would get "That's for World War II!"

A little sad, really.

Sad that your hypothetical is probably untrue?

When the earthquake hit Japan earlier this year you had a bunch of retards saying "thats for Pearl harbour". So I think his hypothesis stands.

Oh wow, there are insensitive people...in a country? Whoah, hold on there, you just stumbled upon groundbreaking stuff.

So you do agree that this hypothesis would stand?
Hope it happens again, fucking CIA routing illegal prisoners through my country

Obviously SOMEONE would say that, don't imply that the majority would.

Then why'd you say it was untrue? Aren't you contradicting yourself now?

Are you attempting to give yourself an out of admitting you are wrong? No, your implication was that automatically everyone would go "Nope, they totally deserve it." Obviously someone, somewhere would say that, as people have said the same thing about 9/11, but the majority wouldn't. Don't even try to say you only meant to imply someone would, because if that was the case then your initial comment is obvious to the point of not being worth mentioning.

 

[gallaetha_matt]

I don't think we'd still be hearing about it ten years later. Unless it happened in your country. I'm willing to bet that in four years time on the anniversary of 7/7 we'll be seeing some 'NEVAR 4GET!' stuff on the front page of the Daily Mail and The Sun.

It matters more when it happens in your own country is all. The rest of the world is still hearing about 9/11 due to all the American media and entertainment that gets exported around the world. That's all.

 

[Amphoteric]

Here is something else that resulted in the death of 3000 people.

Any of you Americans still care about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_troubles

 

[Hero in a half shell]

British people already know the answer to this (and I apologise for bringing it up yet again).

For many years Britain was subjected to terror bombings by the IRA and a hell of a lot of Americans supported them.

And right there is why you don't see great compassion from a lot of the "older" generation of the British.

Families over here being killed on a regular basis while America shouted "yeah, fuck you Britain gogo IRA". Now it's happened to them and they know how we felt for years.

The difference between a lot of Americans and a lot of us British is we DID lose people close to us to IRA bombings and in the armed forces.

I lost 2 cousins, my gran and a neice to 2 seperate IRA bombings. I lost 3 friends in Ireland when I was in the Army.

All the while there were Americans supporting the IRA.

So my question to you is, how the hell would Americans feel if Britain supported Al Qaeda? And don't say it's different it's exactly the same situation. IRA/PIRA terrorised Britain for years, you had 1 attack. America supported our attackers so how would they feel if we supported Al Qaeda. We don't but I would be lying if a little part of me doesn't scream "NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FUCKING FEEL" everytime I see 9/11 mentioned.

Wow, to post that on the 9/11 anniversary of all times. Thats... Well, I just want to say you are actually correct, after 9/11 there were collections around various first world countries police forces, for the NYPD. In Northern Ireland a few of the higher ups gave some donations, but none of the regular Northern Irish Police Force gave them anything, because it had been widely known for years that the NYPD would knowingly give large amounts of money to the various 'charities' that were infamous fronts for the IRA (Like NORAID) funding them to kill our local police and British soldiers right through the Troubles.

If it happened in England I'd do what I always do and you should too, which is to not let it take over your way of life but instead to mock it mercilessly. I don't care how "terrible" something is, it's only once it beats you mentally that you have lost to it.

Spoiler

Oh my lord, I can't breathe. I think that's the funniest picture I've seen on this forum.

 

[FernandoV]

If 9/11 happened in another country, you would get nothing but "that's for *insert retarded reason here*."

For instance, if it was in Europe you would get "That's for World War II!"

A little sad, really.

Sad that your hypothetical is probably untrue?

When the earthquake hit Japan earlier this year you had a bunch of retards saying "thats for Pearl harbour". So I think his hypothesis stands.

Oh wow, there are insensitive people...in a country? Whoah, hold on there, you just stumbled upon groundbreaking stuff.

So you do agree that this hypothesis would stand?
Hope it happens again, fucking CIA routing illegal prisoners through my country

Obviously SOMEONE would say that, don't imply that the majority would.

Then why'd you say it was untrue? Aren't you contradicting yourself now?

Are you attempting to give yourself an out of admitting you are wrong? No, your implication was that automatically everyone would go "Nope, they totally deserve it." Obviously someone, somewhere would say that, as people have said the same thing about 9/11, but the majority wouldn't. Don't even try to say you only meant to imply someone would, because if that was the case then your initial comment is obvious to the point of not being worth mentioning.

Noone ever said everyone. Other than that I've got no idea what the hell you're talking about

Sorry, I confused you with the person I originally quoted.

 

[Kroxile]

If 9/11 happened in another country, you would get nothing but "that's for *insert retarded reason here*."

For instance, if it was in Europe you would get "That's for World War II!"

A little sad, really.

Sad that your hypothetical is probably untrue?

No, he's probably right. Everytime there's a disaster somewhere you can always find some group of American idiots claiming it was either "god's will because ___" or "That was for ____!"

Look to the recent Japanese disasters and the recent Earthquakes for evidence if you need to.

OT: 9/11 is about the most overblown crap I have had the displeasure of ever knowing of. When it happened it was a tragedy, sure... but now its just used as a tool for the GOP fear mongers at Fox News and the like.