What if you found out your partner had radical political views you disapproved of?

[malestrithe]

Yeah, I do not think this would happen in real life. Chances are I would not be dating a neo nazi. I would not of good stock for her.

However, because I have little tolerance for stupid in my life, I would probably not date anyone whose beliefs are XTREME in anything.

 

[Leadfinger]

My friend is a WWII re-enactor. He was in this British unit, but the German unit tried to recruit him. As part of their recruitment effort, they invited him over to a little get-together they were having on April 20 to "ya know, celebrate the Man's birthday."
captcha-for sure

 

[iseko]

Well, the thing is when you live in NRW, that isn't really the case. The whole "Most Muslims are tolerant and peaceful" thing? Absolute bloody bullshit. Take this from a guy who lived in the Turkish part of town for 2 years as a kid, went to school in part of a city that has the third highest crime rate in the whole state (and of course a shit load of immigrants) and who's mother works in the aforementioned Turkish part of town in daycare.

etc. etc.

Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that they're poor immigrants? Oh of course not, it's their faith that's the issue.

Um, where did I say that exactly?

Those first sentences where you clearly bring up their faith as though it's the issue?

Where did I say its the issue?

Then why in the fuck did you even mention it?

...Because the discussion was about Muslims and ProNRW from the get go?

You're telling a story about impoverished immigrants and bringing up their faith as though it is somehow a relevant factor in their behaviour, as opposed to, say, the fact that their lives are most likely terrible. I think you might be backtracking.

... what? euhm... what? Not all of them have shitty lives(coming back to that later). And how is that even an excuse? Hey I had a shitty life so I can stab you for your MP3 player. What da f*ck? If you go to actual muslim countries the people all say the same thing: If the muslims of your country acted like that here, they would get throw in jail if they are lucky.

Their believe is peaceful in its core. Family is the most important thing for them. Just like with catholics and jews. Most of the religious factions preach peace.

And to get back too them having shitty lives? How is it that if your grandfather came to our country because he was being prosecuted, you have a shitty life? A guy beat the shit out of an elderly woman and his dad owned a car shop. He wasn't poor. He was never prosecuted. He was still an ass.

Main point tho if you didn't get it by now: Having a shitty life is not an excuse to hurt other people who are innocent. And we shouldn't throw people in jail/deport them because of their believe/race. We should throw them in jail/deport them for breaking the law. Race/religion are no the issue. Being a complete ass is.

 

[verdant monkai]

but.......what if........They are constantly like "hey [your name here] wanna come to the third Reich fan club, I ironed your uniform for you.. the Fuhrer would love to meet you"

Personally that would be awesome. Cause since I'm aryan, it means she's down for freaky sex all day long.

Plus I'd be able to see history from a point of view that is different from mine which is also amazing. And i hate jew I love jews =D. Actually don't really care. I think hitler did his best to make his country be able to sustain itself in the great depression era. While his methods were deplorable he did try. Which is something right?


But uhm. Don't really have experience with that, although my brother had a partner who was a hardcore republican and actually voted against gay marriage when he is gay himself. Go figure.

You see this dos not work as well if you aren't flutter shy.

Actually I would probably visit a 3rd Reich fan club to (not join it though)
Hitler did happen to be rather evil, but he did a damn good job with German ecconomy and almost took over the world and lets face it Blitz Krieg worked for a while.

So your brother's partner is gay and anti gay simultaneously?

 

[verdant monkai]

Main point tho if you didn't get it by now: Having a shitty life is not an excuse to hurt other people who are innocent. And we shouldn't throw people in jail/deport them because of their believe/race. We should throw them in jail/deport them for breaking the law. Race/religion are no the issue. Being a complete ass is.

Religion and race are an issue because when people are different they dislike each other.

Having a shitty life is THE main reason people use for hurting other people.

You do not know what Muslims are like in Germany because you live in Belgium, you are geographically close but you do not live where he lives and have not had the same experiences as him.

P.S love the avatar

 

[SillyBear]

Thankfully I run little risk of accidentally courting a nazi. I'm black so most of those types avoid the hell out of me.

But what would I do? Well it depended on the view. I have to admit - if I found out my partner was a paedophile and even if they had never touched a child I would be turned off to the point of leaving. But most things I'd be fine with as long as they didn't preach it.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

I wouldn't go out with someone if they were a Conservative, so it doesn't even have to be radical views.

I just don't think a relationship can work long term without sharing at least similar political views. Like if you were a Liberal you'd be fine with a Labour supporter, but a Labour supporter couldn't be with a Conservative (or Democrats with Republicans for the Americans in the audience)

Although saying that I knew a couple once who were actually members of the Labour and Conservative parties respectively, and they just never ever spoke about anything remotely political as long as they were together. Personally I just couldn't live like that.

 

[likalaruku]

Don't date anyone you're not already friends with. If you haven;t already figured out their views on religion & politics, they're only acquaintances.

 

[verdant monkai]

This didn't happen to me it is just a thought.
What if my girl friend and I are just watching a film when she goes "Oh by the way I am a Nazi". First of all I would say "well theoretical girlfriend, according to the Nazi's women weren't allowed, to have any interest in politics". Then it would hit me Oh Christ my girl friend is a Nazi!! What do I do?

Now say this person is the best partner you could ever have handsome/beautiful great body your sense of humour etc. But they turned out to have some radical political view you really disagreed with? Like Communist or something. (please don't turn this into an Op has no idea about politics , but I do so I shall correct him like the snob I am,thread. That's not what we are going for here)
I would probably at least try to work around this, unless she starts goose stepping in the street or something. What do you lot think?

yeah i had ths problem too.

i just was hanging around with my girlfriend when suddenly

CTHULHU

seriously your scenario is a bit of an exaggeration. this is a quite silly thread.

if she goes all 'i am (neo) nazi' on you, that means you really never had interest in her or her personality. or your relationship is very short and/or based mostly on superficialities.

and you can argue with your partner or try to discuss with her why she sees it this way.
sometimes people think that way because their retarded parents forced a worldview on them.
speaking with your partner can sometimes ease their illogical hatred and fear for something.

you are her partner and you both are responsible to care for each other and you both are the new beginning of a theoretical new family so you have both the right to establish new rules and ideologies.

and if she doesnt come halfway to a cooperative without sound arguments, you have to see if you can live with it.
if not, break up. its that easy.

HAHAHA cool story brah
if you don't like the example instead of just giving criticism, why not make your own example and I will edit into the OP for you. how does that sound??

 

[verdant monkai]

This didn't happen to me it is just a thought.
What if my girl friend and I are just watching a film when she goes "Oh by the way I am a Nazi". First of all I would say "well theoretical girlfriend, according to the Nazi's women weren't allowed, to have any interest in politics". Then it would hit me Oh Christ my girl friend is a Nazi!! What do I do?

Now say this person is the best partner you could ever have handsome/beautiful great body your sense of humour etc. But they turned out to have some radical political view you really disagreed with? Like Communist or something. (please don't turn this into an Op has no idea about politics , but I do so I shall correct him like the snob I am,thread. That's not what we are going for here)
I would probably at least try to work around this, unless she starts goose stepping in the street or something. What do you lot think?

seriously your scenario is a bit of an exaggeration. this is a quite silly thread.

if she goes all 'i am (neo) nazi' on you, that means you really never had interest in her or her personality. or your relationship is very short and/or based mostly on superficialities.
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HAHAHA cool story brah
if you don't like the example instead of just giving criticism, why not make your own example and I will edit into the OP for you. how does that sound??

it sounds like you haven't read my post entirely.

it would be more realistic if you just changed 'o hai!btw ich bin one nazi' in something else.

after being together with your girlfriend for months, you only realise that she is a radical fascist by seeing her move a huge nazi flag into your house, you might have done something wrong, are fucking blind or just got together with her for her body.
if the later, you deserve what you have gotten yourself into.
(ideology and personality are often interconnected)

the rest of my post was my answer to your scenario

and you can argue with your partner or try to discuss with her why she sees it this way.
sometimes people think that way because their retarded parents forced a worldview on them.
speaking with your partner can sometimes ease their illogical hatred and fear for something.

you are her partner and you both are responsible to care for each other and you both are the new beginning of a theoretical new family so you have both the right to establish new rules and ideologies.

and if she doesnt come halfway to a cooperative without sound arguments, you have to see if you can live with it.
if not, break up. its that easy.

[sub]o hai! btw i am illuminati[/sub]

Erm you realise that it was a theoretical example right? I don't need a lecture.
Even if you knew it was an example who cares if it is a bit silly or far fetched, you take life far too seriously it seems just chill.
If a post is too unrealistic for you, you do not have to get involved with it. Conversations do not always have to be grounded in realism they would be boring if they were.

 

[Shavon513]

My significant other and I have very different political views when it comes to economic matters, but we agree on social issues (for the most part). I think it can work if two people have extremely different views. Depends on how important beliefs are to people.

 

[Suicidejim]

I'm reckoning this is the kind of thing that would come up through conversation, either directly or indirectly through other topics. If you genuinely have no idea your other half holds radical political views, you've either jumped into a relationship way too early or you really should be paying more attention to your partner.

But if I ended up in that situation, depending on how different our views are, I may try and work around it or just go ahead and end it. More for the sake of potential children than any kind of friction between the two of us, since I tend to avoid politics in my everyday life.

 

[Cakes]

... what? euhm... what? Not all of them have shitty lives(coming back to that later). And how is that even an excuse? Hey I had a shitty life so I can stab you for your MP3 player. What da f*ck?

I didn't say it was, though it's obviously the cause (as opposed to whatever their beliefs happen to be, which was my whole point...)

And to get back too them having shitty lives? How is it that if your grandfather came to our country because he was being prosecuted, you have a shitty life?

It's a circle of poverty. The children of a poor man (needless to say most immigrants from places like Somalia aren't going to strike it rich) aren't very likely to flourish.

Main point tho if you didn't get it by now: Having a shitty life is not an excuse to hurt other people who are innocent.

I really don't understand why you think that's what I was suggesting.

 

[370999]

I'm reckoning this is the kind of thing that would come up through conversation, either directly or indirectly through other topics. If you genuinely have no idea your other half holds radical political views, you've either jumped into a relationship way too early or you really should be paying more attention to your partner.

But if I ended up in that situation, depending on how different our views are, I may try and work around it or just go ahead and end it. More for the sake of potential children than any kind of friction between the two of us, since I tend to avoid politics in my everyday life.

Well in fairness some people are quite reticent about sharing their political views. I know it wouldn't be one of the first things I would bring up.