What is so good about GTA4?
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Woodsey said:
Agree. I love that game but it's definitely not flawless.Woodsey said:
I have to agree with Furburt on both his posts, I just did not feel that GTA4 lived up to the hype that absolutely everyone put on it. I mean, seriously, everyone was going around, giving it 10/10/10/10 scores, screaming "GAME OF DE YER!" and stuff, so I couldn't help but be sucked into the black hole of hype.Furburt said:
After the first few hours, yeah, it was pretty fun. But after a while everything just felt...slow I guess the word would me. The cars didn't drive well, the gunplay wasn't very varied, the story just sort of truged along. I dunno, something was just off with it.
I'll go into greater detail here, keep in mind I'm just stating what's on my mind;
I played GTA:San Andreas a helluvah lot. It was fun, it was crazy, there were a wide assortment of weapons from a katana to a friggin' dildo. There were cheats, a lot of them, from big head mode to little gravity, to the citizens going crazy. GTA4 had none of what made the previous games great.
There were very little varieties in weapons. There was the pistol, the assault rifle, the sniper rifle, the shotgun, the RPG, basically the general stuff you get in a general shooter. The rest were just upgrades of them, nothing fun, nothing interesting. No katanas, no dildos, no anti-tank missiles, no brass-knuckles, just generic weapons with generic upgrades.
There were cheats, but they were dumb. The cheats basically just spawned generic cars or motorcycles or the occasional helicopter. There was no big-head mode, super jump ability, jet-packs, not even an invincibility or permanent no wanted star cheat. I mean, come on, you don't even get to fly a standard plane, just a slow-ass helicopter.
The story was interesting at first, but got very boring later on. At first, yeah, the characters were interesting enough. But it just seemed like Nico was going from place to place, taking orders from this guy, and then when he kills the guy, goes on to the next guy to take orders from. Nico himself was a friggin schizophrenic idiot who I didn't sympathize at all. One minute he's remenicing about how horrible the war was in his original country, having to slaughter children. The next he's doing a hit for a mob boss. The very next mission he's yelling at his gay friend who offered to go on a boat ride that "I'm trying to stay incognito!" Well if you were trying to do that, why the hell are you taking hits for the friggin' mob?!
Overall, I did have a little fun with GTA4 after a while, but I just got bored and gave up probably not even half-way through. It didn't have the same wackyness like the other GTA's, and while I don't mind realistic and mature games, if your franchise has lived in "wacky-town" for so long, it's a bit jarring to switch over to "realism-ville" abruptly.
In reply to Mobynick, Scobie elaborates my point very well. It tries to be both funny and almost a tearjerker story, with it's effort to realistically depict the human side of the crime world. The result is exactly that, you're never really sure where it's going, you complete some really amazing mission(there are a few), and go away with that feeling of having dirtied your hands, then you jump into a car and hear lazlo and the image just breaks.
As I said, Red Dead had some of the same, but it balances much better by actually making it's characters a bit more parodic.
As I said, Red Dead had some of the same, but it balances much better by actually making it's characters a bit more parodic.
Personally I didn't care for it much. I tried, I stuck with it... but couldn't connect with any of the characters.... actually I thought they was all boring fuck-wads I didn't want on my screen, but moving on... I felt like the actual GAME part of it was well, nothing wrong with it but nothing amazing either. The story I couldn't find the enthusiasm to give a shit about.
I dunno just didn't work for me.
I dunno just didn't work for me.
I would suggest finishing it before you judge the story, it took me almost a hundred hours to finish the game (because im not very good at it) but ultimatly the story is great, there are a few anoying missions, but other than that i think it deserves much of the praise it recieves, now if someone can tell me how to complete that level on ballad of gay tony where you're chasing the boats with that helicopter on PC then i would be very thankful, its almost impossible
I really only go back for the typical GTA mayhem. It's not necessarily the most rewarding, but it kills a good hour or two.
If you're looking for a good GTA, try Saints Row 2, it's what GTA 4 should have been, though I suppose if you watch Zero Punctuation you may already know that.
The first 5 hours? I assume your still on the first island set of missions. The first island is basically a big tutorial. I keep a save just after the first island just so I don't have to play that section again if I want to replay the game. My advice, grit your teeth and just play through that first section. Also, there is only one mission that I can remember that is as you describe it so I'm not sure what you mean by repetitive.Mr. Google said:
Besides all that, you're being very limiting with the Free Roam. Be more Imaginative. Pretend to be a cop, listen to the pedestrians. I'd write more, but I'm supposed to be doing an assignment. Evil interwebs distracting me!
I couldn't stand it and I loved all the previous games. Furburt made all the great points I could have, though not as well. I get a sense that rock star was more worried about story, graphics, and multiplayer, and forgot to make it fun.
Sants Row 2, Prototype, Infamous, and Assassins Creed FTW
Sants Row 2, Prototype, Infamous, and Assassins Creed FTW
Respectfully disagree.bushwhacker2k said:
Whilst I do think Saints Row can be more fun, I wouldn't say it's what GTA4 should have been. I think GTA4 was a pretty good game. It was fairly long, enjoyable, nice graphics, and I loved the 'realistic' driving and ragdoll physics.
Saints Row 2, on the other hand, is more casual I found. Driving went back to standard controls (A to go, B to break), you could do flips in helicopters.
To put it bluntly, GTA4 is more...realistic?
Either way, both a good games and worth playing.
I don't understand all the hate for GTA4...
Storyline is good gets boring after that through. I try random things ingame to keep it fun
In C:\Program Files\Rockstar Games\Grand Theft Auto IV\movies (or where ever your GTA is)
the Bik files for the Tv channels are stored. I like to change the CNT.bik file to CNToriginal.bik (backup). I then move a movie/trailer converted in bik format under the name CNT.bik. Then ingame the TV channel CNT is the movie/trailer I put in. Next Niko watches your movie.
added picture of niko wtaching battlefield vietnam intro video
In C:\Program Files\Rockstar Games\Grand Theft Auto IV\movies (or where ever your GTA is)
the Bik files for the Tv channels are stored. I like to change the CNT.bik file to CNToriginal.bik (backup). I then move a movie/trailer converted in bik format under the name CNT.bik. Then ingame the TV channel CNT is the movie/trailer I put in. Next Niko watches your movie.
added picture of niko wtaching battlefield vietnam intro video
I agree. I played through the whole story and wasn't impressed. It's an average game at best. I had to force myslef just to finish it.
I must start off by commending you for stating your opinion in such a civil manner. My friend actually prefers GTA4 for the same reasons.JWRosser said:
The reason I didn't enjoy GTA4 is fairly simple. I found it to be fairly boring, there was a lot of annoying stuff I didn't want to do but I was forced to if I wanted to progress the story, it didn't feel as expansive as SR2, and it was just overall bland in my opinion.
Of course, I didn't play a whole lot, so I could be missing some things.
I've only played it on the PC, so maybe a mouse and keyboard makes all the difference, but I'm curious to know why you say that because think the combat in GTA IV is the best I've ever experienced in any TPS. The dynamics of shootouts are a huge improvement over the previous games in the series. The cover system is a great addition, if a little fiddly at first (I soon got used to it). The hand-to-hand combat is not as good as the gunplay, I admit. It's mainly let down by awkward controls, especially if you have more than one opponent, but it still works pretty well and I enjoy using the dodges and combo moves.Woodsey said:
The AI aren't very strategic but are still a hell of a lot better than those in the previous games (it was incredibly bad). In Vice City and, to a lesser extent, San Andreas, enemies separated from you by a wall would run headlong into the wall and try to shoot you through it, rather than maneuver around it. While they're not perfect, the AI in GTA IV flank, make pretty effective use of cover and can be suppressed. I've had many a gun battle where I pause momentarily to shoot at my pursuers to force them to take cover, then continue.
Skip to 2:10 in this video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obOTXmdlzN0] and watch the shootout for a few minutes, that's my experience of the combat in this game, and I really can't see how there's anything dreadful about it.