What is the hardest country to invade?

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BrailleOperatic

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Costliest: Austalia, transport costs alone would be a *****, let alone actually maintaining troops in the environment.

Bloodiest: China, due to the massive population density

Longest: England. Using historical facts to extrapolate for a moment, the Battle of Britain went on forever considering it was essentially the United Kingdom versus Europe. And that was just their Air Force.


On an unrelated note, I would like to posit that the answer is NOT the USA. Invading the USA would be painfully easy. Hell, Mexico's been doing it for decades. And no invading force we need to stock to many supplies, because America's stocks can be commandeered with a fair amount of ease. Guns, food, drink, gasoline. Yeah, invading America wouldn't be too difficult.
 

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Blablahb said:
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Canada Obviously anyone stupid enough to attack one of the most liked Countries in the world that has a army that technologically at least is near on par with the USA, and Canada has the best allies of all time. :) That's right I'm talking to you. :)
They tried the whole 'we got allies' thing in Georgia when they tried to reclaim parts of their country from Russian warlords. It sort of didn't work, as nobody lifted a finger as Russia sent an army to re-occupy those parts of Georgia, and then some.
Did you actually pay any attention to that? Canada didn't do anything outside of say, this should not be stood for which many western nations agreed with, including, America Sweden, and Britain. France and Germany thought the hostilities should stop but did not take sides. However I nothing was ever done, I don't think that proves that Canada somehow lost the allies they thought they had. And also I was mostly making a joke based on the Canadian opinion that we are awesome and everyone loves us lol :p
 

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I'm going with North Korea. They have such a high concentration of military for so small a country - millions of troops, and tens of millions of brainwashed civilians who'll either willingly or be forced to take up arms against invaders, plus a government that doesn't care about war crimes or killing as many enemies as possible.

When that border explodes... there's going to be millions of bodies.
 

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I'd say that in any meaningful relative terms, Switzerland would be the "hardest." Sure, if you threw the entirety of your armed forces at it, it'd likely fall down at some point, but that's for just tens of thousands of square kilometres.

Costliest invasion: Likely the US, as they have a slightly better capacity to destroy expensive high tech things like tanks and aircraft than the Chinese do.
Bloodiest invasion: Toss up between China and the US. Though I'd think that with the US, you'd get an unlimited amount of time spent dealing with a deadly insurgency afterwards, while you might not see as much of that in China.
Longest Invasion: To just go through, I'd probably say the US. No matter where you start, you're going to have to go through a hundreds of kilometres of mountain, with tonnes of military forts peppered within, to root out military resistance. And the aforementioned insurgency issues.

Most difficult invasion. The US, hands down. Cue quote about guns behind every blade of grass.
 

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snowpuppy said:
I think america or a place with similar gun laws would be very hard to invade.
JB1528 said:
Filled with gun-toting nationalist rednecks all waiting for a fight: USA...

with over 300 million citizens and an estimated 45% of those citizens who own firearms, your in for a hell of a fight.
Toasty Virus said:
Now, if you were to mean an invasion which would also lead to you trying to keep the land itself, then I would say either a place like those two above, or the US, just cause a high number of civilians carry guns. There's also this small tidbit I saw a few months ago from a newspaper. America's Army drafts 3% of the country's population. of that 3, only 1% of it makes it training. So you havea lot of rejected trained soldiers, a good number of people who grow up and live hunting and knowing the land, and the gangs that constant fight an urban warfare against each other.

With those three groups by themselves, not working in any organized way, itw ould be hard to occupy the land and keep it.

... but then again, I'm somewhat biased as I live in the US, and have seen a good bit of the gang violence and what it brings.

lol, inb4 everyone picks their own country?


I agree that either Russia or the US would be the hardest to invade. Well, no. Russia would be easy to invade, that is, to send your troops across the border, but to occupy it would be something else. But when I say the US would be hard to invade, I'm talking about military and technological superiority, not all this stuff you guys are talking about above. Civilians with guns...

Yes, those guys could definitely pester an army. And yes, guerilla warfare would wreck havoc on occupations, operations, senior military leaders; examples in Jerusalem with the Maccabees, the Résistance in France during WWII and even terrorists in the Middle East in the present point to this being a huge factor in weakening armies.

But don't think for a second that a hillbilly with a confederate flag painted on his face and an old Winchester rifle or 12-gauge is going to be able to take out a bunch of well-trained Chinese/Russian/whatever soldiers. Obviously the invading forces would be aware of the fact that many American citizens own firearms and would take measures against it. Sure, there would be casualties, many of them, and I'm sure that in certain central cities like Chicago, Oklahoma City, Kansas City, Denver etc., guerilla forces would win. But in seaboard cities, presumably the foreign power's navy would have taken over those ports and would be unloading troops constantly in those places (if the US' navy was defeated). I think the US could definitely stave off a huge invasion without much bloodshed on their own soil, but it would NOT be because of armed civilians.

Plus armed civilians generally don't have artillery, bombs, or (anti)aircraft.



Treblaine said:
Russia.

So many have tried, with everything in their favour, yet so many have failed.

The United States would be a close second. Why second place? Canada. With Canada as a truly reliable ally then harder to beat than Russia but Canada at the same time could screw over the US royally with a vast vulnerable northern Border with s many supply, communication and utilities shared between them.

Realistically, Canada and America would stick together. But that is two countries together hard to invade.

Hmm, Britain.

Is Britain that hard to invade? We are an island but our almost 1000 years without a successful invasion has depended almost entirely on our Navy. Japan you could see as a Mirror image of the British Isles, and it was demonstrated how vulnerable an island can be to a larger aggressor with established continental ports.

Japan got cut off and bombed into oblivion and with no room to move, even ruling out Atomic Bombs the invasion of Japan by most simulations would have been a success. In fact the mining and anti-shipping campaign was so effective Japan would have descended into abject famine by the end of 1945 and by 1946 couldn't have resisted any invasion.

As great as it is to be a small island surrounded by sea, it also leaves you extremely vulnerable to blockade and aerial bombardment.


See Russia has several things a small island like Japan or UK can't have:
-vast areas to sacrifice for time
-being far in from the sea, summers are scorching and winters are Arctic, invaders suffer more than the locals.
-Much more natural resources inland to exploit
-easier to trade/supply with a large land border. Land borders are hard to close, seas can be blockaded by submarines, sea-mines, while ship-convoys are easier to destroy from the air than train/truck convoys


PS: China would be on this list but the country is just too mountainous, it is too hard to move troops and resources around. Japan and other western powers did effectively invade and occupy China and would have done so indefinitely had the situation not changed with World War 2. Also it has a large coastal vulnerability, when superior naval forces dominate the seas all of China gets dominated.

Russia has many pivotal ports and coastal region, but not any that are either easily taken or are of such a great loss to lose.
This, I think, was the most sensible post on Page 1, since I didn't read pages 2-5, but this was very well thought out. I do agree that the UK would be fairly easy to invade if another superpower was doing the invading. There simply isn't the military or technology there to defend against the US, Russia, China, etc. Sure, Britain defended great against Germany in two World Wars, but at the time of both of those, Britain's army/navy/air force was still among the top in the world, rivalled only by the US (an ally) and Germany.

I also agree about the US and Canada. Canadians and Americans, while a bit different, share basically the same values and an undefended border, and two of the largest, richest countries worldwide in both technology and resources. Invading two countries at the same time would be a tough task. Either would jump to the others' side during a conflict and on their homeland, there would just be too much ground to cover with not enough troops, and too many defending aircraft, navy, land vehicles, and bombs.
 

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Either Russia because of the huge land mass and harsh conditions, or the US because of their technological edge and availability of guns for citizens.
 

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OpiateChicken said:
snowpuppy said:
I think america or a place with similar gun laws would be very hard to invade.
JB1528 said:
Filled with gun-toting nationalist rednecks all waiting for a fight: USA...

with over 300 million citizens and an estimated 45% of those citizens who own firearms, your in for a hell of a fight.
Toasty Virus said:
Now, if you were to mean an invasion which would also lead to you trying to keep the land itself, then I would say either a place like those two above, or the US, just cause a high number of civilians carry guns. There's also this small tidbit I saw a few months ago from a newspaper. America's Army drafts 3% of the country's population. of that 3, only 1% of it makes it training. So you havea lot of rejected trained soldiers, a good number of people who grow up and live hunting and knowing the land, and the gangs that constant fight an urban warfare against each other.

With those three groups by themselves, not working in any organized way, itw ould be hard to occupy the land and keep it.

... but then again, I'm somewhat biased as I live in the US, and have seen a good bit of the gang violence and what it brings.

lol, inb4 everyone picks their own country?


I agree that either Russia or the US would be the hardest to invade. Well, no. Russia would be easy to invade, that is, to send your troops across the border, but to occupy it would be something else. But when I say the US would be hard to invade, I'm talking about military and technological superiority, not all this stuff you guys are talking about above. Civilians with guns...

Yes, those guys could definitely pester an army. And yes, guerilla warfare would wreck havoc on occupations, operations, senior military leaders; examples in Jerusalem with the Maccabees, the Résistance in France during WWII and even terrorists in the Middle East in the present point to this being a huge factor in weakening armies.

But don't think for a second that a hillbilly with a confederate flag painted on his face and an old Winchester rifle or 12-gauge is going to be able to take out a bunch of well-trained Chinese/Russian/whatever soldiers. Obviously the invading forces would be aware of the fact that many American citizens own firearms and would take measures against it. Sure, there would be casualties, many of them, and I'm sure that in certain central cities like Chicago, Oklahoma City, Kansas City, Denver etc., guerilla forces would win. But in seaboard cities, presumably the foreign power's navy would have taken over those ports and would be unloading troops constantly in those places (if the US' navy was defeated). I think the US could definitely stave off a huge invasion without much bloodshed on their own soil, but it would NOT be because of armed civilians.

Plus armed civilians generally don't have artillery, bombs, or (anti)aircraft.

Nobody said the armed civilians would win the war by themselves, I don't get how you somehow came to that conclusion reading what people said. Everyone is saying the alongside the most technologically advanced military in the world and the largest army in the world, armed civilians would also be an important factor to account with. Which you agreed with, so there's no reason to act pretentious and put down others opinions just because they didn't feel like writing an extra 4 paragraphs explaining every single reason as to why the US is the hardest.
 

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RoBi3.0 said:
ElPatron said:
Switzerland. Rough terrain, assault rifles a common item on most houses.

RoBi3.0 said:
Runner up goes to USA. You don't really have to fear their organized military as much as you do the fucking gun toting crazies that are hoping/wishing that some country gets ballsy enough to invade. Armies enforce codes of ethic gun toting crazies do not.
I think that's a liability, not an advantage.

*kill every civilian in sight, tell the UN they had guns on them*
*carpet bomb a whole city, tell it was a resistance stronghold*
I am pretty sure (based on current political climate)if you are invading the USA you don't have the approval of the UN in the first place. Also American's don't take to kindly to the bombing of their civilian populations. The only thing worst then a gun toting crazy is an extremely pissed gun toting crazy.
there already extremly pissed when the first shot is fired what it is are extremly pissed gun toting crazys that now dont care if they live and will if done properly kill a couple of platoons in single firefight mouthful but true anger and haveing no reason left to live is a great assitant
oh also the un will still be on you when rescue workers or human societys find woman and children bodies with no guns in a couple city blocks and finding only 4 resistance bodies
in the fucking town
Captcha: manilla makes life easy
 

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I would like to say that I am an American. My answer is Canada. Not only because its a pretty tough nation on its own right, its our kid brother, the only country next to its is ours, its a very well liked country unlike us meaning if they get invaded half the planets gonna have their back, and is Frances favorite kid. Yes I see England and France as the father and mother (England is the man and France the woman) of America and Canada. spain fits in their somewhere but then its just gets weird and emotionally scarring.
 

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Costliest and Hardest: USA. Have you seen how many people and vehicles get destroyed in a single Bad Company 2 match? Now imagine that number lost in every single village with poorly-built villages in the entire country. Also, no red barrels are safe!

But anyway, If you'd asked me 40 years ago, I would have said Russia, but I suspect it's not quite true any more. Their advantages of cold and millions of troops can be sort of negated by the superior technology most armies have now.
 

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In History, definitely MOTHA F**KING RUSSIA, but thats usually running right into an early winter like Napoleon and Hitler. If I'm being innacurate in any way, then sorry, but yeah. I think Russia. I dont know many others well enough to make any better judgements.
 

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HandsomeZer0 said:
Easily the UK. There is a reason why its had the same government/monarchy for 1000 years.
M'yes, I agree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danelaw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_the_Roses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Civil_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protectorate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restoration_%28England%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution

Nary a change has happened in the past millenium.
 

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Hmm .. what exactly are they trying to do? Squat on every square kilometre? Don't be ridiculous. Everywhere in Australia worth attacking is centrally located. If the enemy wanted to conquer downtown Burke they're more than welcome to, but they won't. Because most of Australia is tactically useless to an invader, and wouldn't support a guerilla force either. Sure, large chunks are agriculturally and industrially useful, but last I checked farms and mines don't have standing armies.

An enemy would just sail straight into Sydney harbour and Melbourne simultaneously, and then march from both sides to Canberra. The infrastructure of Australia is set up such that those 'logistics' issues are minimised already. It's a 3hr drive to Canberra from Sydney (the 'logistical nightmare' you're talking about isn't needed when you can walk it in a few days) You could knock out most resistance within an *afternoon*, and essentially pacify the vast majority of the population within 1 week. C'mon mate, almost 40% of the population live in the immediate vicinity of Sydney and Melbourne.

The places Australian troops would excel (the Great Dividing Range, and the Outback) are not gonna be targets. Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra, and then Brisbane as a mop-up operation. Done. Down Under under the thumb.
Not necessarily "squat" but you are going to need a prescence in most of the capital cities and large towns, you don't want places like that provide support to army units. I'm not saying an invasion would be impossible, but I think it's pretty much limited to say China in numbers and resources. Australian military bases aren't all centrally located (though a lot are around NSW) and to "sail into" Sydney harbour or Melbourne, you'd have to navigate the entire east coast, leaving no suprise and exposing yourself to the fleet which while certainly would be beaten would inflict a decent amount of casualites.

Ultimatley though the costs/risks don't outweigh the rewards, what do they want? Land? There's not that much sustainable agriculture. Uranium and coal? We sell it for cheap enough. Nothings really worth the invasion and/or involvment of other nations.
 

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JB1528 said:
The US definitley

Most technologically superior military: USA
Most money spent on National defense: USA
Only way of invasion without involving other nations being a costly coastal attack: USA
Filled with gun-toting nationalist rednecks all waiting for a fight: USA

Seriously the USA would not only be only of the hardest countries to invade, but with over 300 million citizens and an estimated 45% of those citizens who own firearms, your in for a hell of a fight.
Lets hope Korea dosen't take you up on that.