What is the point of consoles anymore?

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The Enquirer

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I really like my ps3, I really do, but it just doesn't hold up in my eyes when compared to the gamecube or ps2. These new consoles, they are essentially less powerful pc's. I am just not seeing the advantage of getting one at this point.

They are being infused with all sorts of social media. All I really want it to do is play games. I don't see what is so difficult about that. Because of all the software put into it, there are going to be a lot of updates and just a lot of things I personally wouldn't use. Part of the reason I enjoyed the gamecube/ps2 era so much was that those consoles were designed with the sole intention of playing games. No installing patches (and granted that had to change because of larger games nowadays) or waiting for the system to update, just pop in and play. That was the advantage that console gaming had over pc gaming. When I got my ps2 (my first console) I was amazed I didn't have to wait 20 or 30 minutes for something to install. I put the disc in and a minute later I was shooting Nazi's or racing down a mountain side on a snowmobile.

It seems like none of them are going to be backwards compatible. That is a huge deal breaker for me, since a lot of my favorite games, are from the ps2 era. Star Wars Battlefront, The Timesplitters trilogy, Star Fox games, some of the older James Bond games, metroid, socom, splinter cell, metal gear solid and shall I continue? I can go back and play those games again and again because each of them tried to be their own unique game. Today, many shooting games, in the words of Yahtzee are "Call of Duty or equivalent". I enjoy occasionally playing battlefield or rainbow six or going back to play call of duty 4, but I also enjoy getting something totally different too and there are long periods of time when that is lacking in games. COD or Battlefield? GTA or Saints Row? Gran Turismo or Forza? It seems many console games are just trying to be the next big AAA title by simply copying traits of the existing one. PC has a lot of indie gaming so if you want something there you just go and browse for them.

There just don't really seem to be any advantages for getting a next gen console for me. If there was backwards compatibility then I would at least have the incentive to get one so incase one of my older consoles broke I could still play those games but that just doesn't seem like it would happen.

So really, what is the point of consoles nowadays? Anything you can get from them you get off a pc.
 

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You've hit the nail on the head: There is no point to consoles, especially upcoming consoles.

Remember when consoles were specialized PCs and not glorified PCs? A specialized PC could play the games an equivalently priced PC could not. A glorified PC can't keep up with PCs in terms of gaming power but it can connect you to facebook while you play ANOTHER football game.
 

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I for one look forward to watching TV on the Xbox one, I'm not sure how we watched TV with out it.
 

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Because they're (supposed to be) cheaper than going out and buying a decent gaming PC, because y'know not everyone can just go and pick one up. Also you don't have to be sat at your desk all the time. Also fighting games look wank on PC monitors. Also they make money.

Also exclusives. All the exclusives.

Basically, I can't play my BlazBlue on a PC dammit. And DON'T you tell me about handhelds. I hate those things.

I'm only interested in the PS4 after that absolutely hilarious Xbox One reveal event. Oh man, there are even MORE hilarious reaction videos coming up in my Youtube subs. #1 free advertising for Sony there Microsoft. Well done.

 

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synobal said:
I for one look forward to watching TV on the Xbox one, I'm not sure how we watched TV with out it.
With a Television *Gasp* . How did microsoft manage to forget that .

[small] yes i know you were being sarcastic [/small]

OT: Eh . EEEEEEEEH . Iv'e been a console gamer all my life . PC was and is too complicated for little old me . So i flocked to Consoles . Now , consoles are getting just as complicated and tedious as PCs. So for me there is no point . Honestly , right now the WIIU is on the top of the console " to buy " list . And i don't even want a WIIU . Unfortunately ,The WiiU seems to be the console that looks like it has the best chance of restoring my faith in gaming consoles . And that's a sad thought . Because i have absolutely no faith in the WiiU .

So unless the WiiU miraculously , get's some decent games that interest me ( very unlikely ) i personally , don't see any point to consoles anymore for me
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Because they're (supposed to be) cheaper than going out and buying a decent gaming PC, because y'know not everyone can just go and pick one up. Also you don't have to be sat at your desk all the time. Also fighting games look wank on PC monitors. Also they make money.

Also exclusives. All the exclusives.

Basically, I can't play my BlazBlue on a PC dammit. And DON'T you tell me about handhelds. I hate those things.

I'm only interested in the PS4 after that absolutely hilarious Xbox One reveal event. Oh man, there are even MORE hilarious reaction videos coming up in my Youtube subs. #1 free advertising for Sony there Microsoft. Well done.

BlazBlue CT was on PC... though I don't think it sold well.

I'll probably end up buying a PS4 just so I can play BlazBlue and Atlus games >.>
 

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Well, there's the eternal plug & play thing PCs will never have. So if you're one of millions of people content with playing the games you listed, then there's a case to be made.

Of course, as a person who is not contented with what is offered on console and is helplessly attracted to a lot of the games on PC, it's a no-brainer for me.
 

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Fappy said:
The Wykydtron said:
Because they're (supposed to be) cheaper than going out and buying a decent gaming PC, because y'know not everyone can just go and pick one up. Also you don't have to be sat at your desk all the time. Also fighting games look wank on PC monitors. Also they make money.

Also exclusives. All the exclusives.

Basically, I can't play my BlazBlue on a PC dammit. And DON'T you tell me about handhelds. I hate those things.

I'm only interested in the PS4 after that absolutely hilarious Xbox One reveal event. Oh man, there are even MORE hilarious reaction videos coming up in my Youtube subs. #1 free advertising for Sony there Microsoft. Well done.

BlazBlue CT was on PC... though I don't think it sold well.

I'll probably end up buying a PS4 just so I can play BlazBlue and Atlus games >.>
Hey it's like you read my mind. Add the new Guilty Gear to that actually, apparently it's basically BlazBlue before BlazBlue was a thing XD I'm not sure what platform it's gonna be on but I assume it'll have a console version.

If it takes them ages to make one, a new BB or GG would be a hell of a launch title. Sony pls. PS4 launches with whatever the fuck comes after Chrono Phantasma (or Chrono Phantasma itself? Almost certainly not gonna be a next gen release though) and Persona 5 and i'm there on release. I'm shocked that Persona 5 is (probably) a direct sequel to P4A, with the same characters and everything. I just assumed we'd pack that shit in and move on. We've spent enough time on these characters already, can we just do something completely different? Like the HUGE difference between 3 and 4 kind of leap. Ah well, more Labrys is always good.

Oh wait, never mind. Atlus would fuck up the EU release for another year so i'd have to wait oops my bad.

[sub][sub]Yes i'm still sore over P4A.[/sub][/sub]
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Fappy said:
The Wykydtron said:
Because they're (supposed to be) cheaper than going out and buying a decent gaming PC, because y'know not everyone can just go and pick one up. Also you don't have to be sat at your desk all the time. Also fighting games look wank on PC monitors. Also they make money.

Also exclusives. All the exclusives.

Basically, I can't play my BlazBlue on a PC dammit. And DON'T you tell me about handhelds. I hate those things.

I'm only interested in the PS4 after that absolutely hilarious Xbox One reveal event. Oh man, there are even MORE hilarious reaction videos coming up in my Youtube subs. #1 free advertising for Sony there Microsoft. Well done.

BlazBlue CT was on PC... though I don't think it sold well.

I'll probably end up buying a PS4 just so I can play BlazBlue and Atlus games >.>
Hey it's like you read my mind. Add the new Guilty Gear to that actually, apparently it's basically BlazBlue before BlazBlue was a thing XD I'm not sure what platform it's gonna be on but I assume it'll have a console version.

If it takes them ages to make one, a new BB or GG would be a hell of a launch title. Sony pls. PS4 launches with whatever the fuck comes after Chrono Phantasma (or Chrono Phantasma itself? Almost certainly not gonna be a next gen release though) and Persona 5 and i'm there on release. I'm shocked that Persona 5 is (probably) a direct sequel to P4A, with the same characters and everything. I just assumed we'd pack that shit in and move on. We've spent enough time on these characters already, can we just do something completely different? Like the HUGE difference between 3 and 4 kind of leap. Ah well, more Labrys is always good.

Oh wait, never mind. Atlus would fuck up the EU release for another year so i'd have to wait oops my bad.

[sub][sub]Yes i'm still sore over P4A.[/sub][/sub]
Nah, I think Persona 5 will be a completely new cast/story. They'll probably continue the P4A story in a spin-off series. Also, Chrono Phantasma is coming out around the same time as the new consoles, so I am sure there will be PS3/PS4 and 360/XBone versions of it.
 

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The thing is, a lot of launch titles don't perform at their best though. I mean it took ages for ps3 devs to really learn how to properly port or write code for their games. That will probably be the case with games for this next gen. For a lot of titles I would rather them wait to release them so they can actually work out all the bugs.

I mean that there is another case to be made for pc. Writing code for it doesn't change much over time. Like a lot of times I had trouble getting a game to work on my pc, I just went on google and found a quick fix and a few minutes later it was all good.
 

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The reason I got a Xbox was so I could play games, right away. I never used a PC for gaming, to me a PC was for homework, coursework and now normal work. A console was a magical place were I could run down everyone and pretend that it was my boss, shot everyone and pretend it was my boss and beat bug eyed monsters in the head till they looked like my boss. I don't like my boss.
If the Xbox one turns out to be a PC without word, then what's the point.

And as for exclusives. Don't make me laugh. Halo 2 was meant to be exclusive and it ended up on the PC. Mass Effect was exclusive too, right up until it wasn't. Third party games, good games, are never exclusive. Why because people want them. And for money or because they listen to the people game developers release them to all.
 

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LTlewis said:
If the Xbox one turns out to be a PC without word, then what's the point.
That's what it seems like its trying to be quite honestly. I just want consoles to play games the same as you. I got my ps3 for the same reason you got your xbox, but it just didn't really work out because it was trying to be so many other things.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Basically, I can't play my BlazBlue on a PC dammit. And DON'T you tell me about handhelds. I hate those things.
How can you say that when your profile pic is holding a handheld?!

The Wykydtron said:
I'm shocked that Persona 5 is (probably) a direct sequel to P4A, with the same characters and everything. I just assumed we'd pack that shit in and move on. We've spent enough time on these characters already, can we just do something completely different? Like the HUGE difference between 3 and 4 kind of leap. Ah well, more Labrys is always good.
Oh come on, we only had one game for each cast. I still wanna see Junpei and Chidori together, I wanna see grown up Ken taking care of aging Koromaru, I wanna see whatever happened to Yukari. I wanna see Elizabeth's journey now that she has Fool Arcana. I believe there are still much they can expand upon.

OT: for me it's gonna be all about PC+Handhelds. Vita is an amazing piece of machinery having bunch of original IPs, enhanced ports, and games from both PS1 and PSP.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Hey it's like you read my mind. Add the new Guilty Gear to that actually, apparently it's basically BlazBlue before BlazBlue was a thing XD I'm not sure what platform it's gonna be on but I assume it'll have a console version.
What do you mean apparently? have you never played Guilty Gear pfft call yourself an Arc fan. It is different to Blazblue in the same way P4A is but there are of course similarities. (althopugh I am only speaking from the position of older entries as I dont know how the new one will play.

[sub][sub]Yes i'm still sore over P4A.[/sub][/sub]
Me to and now its out I am actually playing the Sly Cooper Collection instead as all 3 of my ordered games came on the same day dammit its going to be P4A next though for sure. I just need my platforming fix atm.

OT: Consoles are still more immediate than PC and are still more of a leisure device while the PC is a work one but in the case of the Xbox One they offer very little convenience or bonuses in place of a PC gaming wise now if indeed any at all.

I am still waiting to see what new IP Arc is going to be working on for the new consoles, apparently they like to create a new IP at the start of each console gen.

Personally I would love to see more RPG fighter spin offs from them.
 

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The only point to consoles for me is the exclusives and the ability to play with my friends online easily (none of whom have a gaming pc). So the PS4 will be sufficient for me.
 

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because they're supposed to be more convenient and streamlined. Furthermore, a LOT of Japanese devs don't prioritize PC development.
 

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Aiddon said:
because they're supposed to be more convenient and streamlined. Furthermore, a LOT of Japanese devs don't prioritize PC development.
The majority of western devs don't either, the majority of PC games are ports. Games developed with PC as the primary platform that are then ported to console are few and far between. I think the last one was Battlefield 3.

Don't get me wrong im not going all PC master race ect here, it makes perfect business sense when there are more console gamers than PC ones and the technical aspect is way easier if you only have 1 set of standard hardware to deal with. Plus ports if done right are perfectly fine.