What is to be considered an "unfair" weapon?

[sam_tankms]

i my self didnt like the m16 in cod 4, its a smaller callaber then an ak-47 but it takes a whole ak mag to kill someone(even with stopping power and deep) when it takes one burst from a m16(again with stopping power)

... but i cant blame the game makers for the m16 being 3 round burst sence all m16 the U.S. milltary uses now are 3 round burst to make it so they dont need to train are solders in it.

*note i love my contrey and i will be joining an armed force (maby the navy) after this summer so dont think i dont like it hear*

 

[ygetoff]

I tend to quit the game when I realize the other team works together. Nothing can stand against that.

Isn't that the point of a Team game? To work together to gain victory? See that kind of thinking you just said makes you a noob player because any group of people can ban together to form a team if they communicate.

I quote games when the team is mismatched like it is me and someone else versus 8 people or someone on the other team hacks the game and no matter what you do you can;t win. Although I love it when I kill the player who cheats using JUST what the game allowed me to do. That was satisfying to do in Halo 2.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.
I meant when the other team works together perfectly well, and your team is made up of "My way or no way" idiots.
Like the kind of situation where you get a chopper in CoD4 and the other team stops everything they're doing to shoot at it, and it goes down within 5 seconds.
When you don't even have a fighting chance, and you know it.

 

[Ghost]

grenades in FEAR combat (i do not view excessive full stops as important, thank you very much)

 

[nikomas1]

I duno, me using "Assistance of" vs someone who has it on in hawx, that will be pretty unfair, muhehehe.

 

[Spudgun Man]

Once I was playing GTA 4 online (yes I will probably burn in gamer hell) and i had an assault rifle and I was backed into a alley, this one guy ran at me five FIVE times with a pistol and i creamed him every time. he then left the game and spams my email box with notes proclaiming me a 'Noob for cheatin by shootin me from the same alley' well sorry but bloody predictable tactics are stupid. Grow a brain and run me over or something.

 

[Kellerb]

CATTANK IS THE ULTIMATE UNFAIR WEAPON

TIME AND SPACE ARE NO OBSTACLE TO CATTANK

CATTANK IS STRONG

umm...yeaahhh... ^^

snipers normally

 

[Spudgun Man]

I tend to quit the game when I realize the other team works together. Nothing can stand against that.

i saw this once amazingly on resistance 2 but then again as soon as i popped up and incinirated one of them this my underslung grenade launcher on the carbine they ran off so maybe this was just a phenomenon. (i found it very odd that they simply ran off mind)

 

[fix-the-spade]

the brain. Whoever uses it has a very clear advantage over other players

If only that wasn't true...

 

[DolphinWacker64]

Psychic abilities.

How can the game be far when the other person can bend spoons and knows exactly what your thinking?

Other than that, Stop complaining.

It's there, it's uasable, and if your tired of being killed by it then YOU start using it. You'll be able to kill the other person before they could kill you.

 

[Wargamer]

if the weapons in the game its fair no matter what.

Player Level 1 has a choice of weapons between the shittiest pistol in the game, the shittiest rifle in the game, or the shittiest SMG in the game.

Player level 84 has access to an insta-gib Rapid-Firing Sniper Rifle that can punch through walls.

Explain where 'fair' comes into this.

Games that do not, from the off, put all players on a level playing field are not fair.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Player Level 1 has a choice of weapons between the shittiest pistol in the game, the shittiest rifle in the game, or the shittiest SMG in the game.

Player level 84 has access to an insta-gib Rapid-Firing Sniper Rifle that can punch through walls.

Explain where 'fair' comes into this.

Games that do not, from the off, put all players on a level playing field are not fair.

Player level 84 has put in his time and earned the instagibbing death prod.
He worked for it, he deserves it, it's fair.

 

[ygetoff]

I tend to quit the game when I realize the other team works together. Nothing can stand against that.

i saw this once amazingly on resistance 2 but then again as soon as i popped up and incinirated one of them this my underslung grenade launcher on the carbine they ran off so maybe this was just a phenomenon. (i found it very odd that they simply ran off mind)

On CoD4 you spawn near team members, so when they were sitting shooting down my chopper, even if I shot one of them my my sniper rifle, he would just respawn right there instantly.
It was the one time when instant respawns have ever annoyed me.

 

[Chezzz]

Grenades can be pretty unfair, when you're gettin' spammed with 12 of them in a space you can't manuever in.

A la CoD:WaW

 

[keyton777]

ok this is a response to some ppl in page 5

1. teamwork isnt a weapon, its a gameplan and a very smart one, if you dont do it, or at least work with one other person, ur either immortal and cant die, or you have a ring of eyes around ur head, if not, grow a pair and deal with it.

2. being psychic isnt really a weapon, more like an ability, yeah its annoying, but still
kinda hard to claim its a weapon when you cant kil the person to get rid of it

3. i have said this b4 i know i have, if the gun can annhilate the entire team in one shot from accross the map sheild that block bullets, grenades, rockets whatever then it is over powered, if not, jeesus, grenades, rockets, sniper rifles.
no these arint unfair you use them if you have a brain, and if you dont and you call ppl that do use them noobs for ur jsut a whiny little man, or in most cases a little kid, or someone with about the same maturity level, with a very poor sense of strategy

 

[neoman10]

Call me crazy, but I think the W1200 with a grip was ridiculously overpowered in CoD4. For those of you who don't remember, it was the pump action shotgun.

If you take it with stopping power, it essentially became a really long melee knife (thats what she said) that instakilled anyine whithin 20 feet of you. It's fucking awesome.

Usually, in my opinion, most instakill rays are things like the rocket launcher in Halo and get used only by n00bs who have no skill, and consequently win. The majority of gamers would be too good to use such weapons, but not skilled enough to weild guns like said W1200 and kick ass with them, and thus end up loosing.

my clan called me 'Shotty-Slut' because of that very thing

damn was I good

I was in an official clan back then

 

[Da_Schwartz]

I think knives and wrenches are unfair and OP. Cause one bash over the head or slice to the gut shouldn't be more powerful then a shotgun blast to the spine. But now i'm just complaining

 

[Baonec]

Grenades can be pretty unfair, when you're gettin' spammed with 12 of them in a space you can't manuever in.

A la CoD:WaW

HA the grenades on that game are shit unless you perk them up I've never been 'nade spammed on WAW unlike COD4. Though I agree with most people in here all weapons are fair it's the way PEOPLE use them which makes you feel it's and unfair weapon.

 

[pink.spartan]

sticky grenades. for sure.

 

[Wargamer]

Player Level 1 has a choice of weapons between the shittiest pistol in the game, the shittiest rifle in the game, or the shittiest SMG in the game.

Player level 84 has access to an insta-gib Rapid-Firing Sniper Rifle that can punch through walls.

Explain where 'fair' comes into this.

Games that do not, from the off, put all players on a level playing field are not fair.

Player level 84 has put in his time and earned the instagibbing death prod.
He worked for it, he deserves it, it's fair.

Wrong! The correct answer was either
a) "No, this is not fair."
or
b) "Yes, this is fair, but only if said weapon can only be used against other Level 84s, and not lower-levels."

I'm afraid you have failed your Basic Fairness Awareness course.

Allow me to describe a 'fair' super-gun. In Resistance 2, you have "Berserks". These are special powers that grant a variety of abilities. Two of these, obtained around level 16-17, are insta-gib weapons; the LAARK (rocket launcher) and "Snake Eyes" (which gives a Pulse Cannon).

When activated, the LAARK gives you two shots; one standard rocket, and one "swarm" rocket. The Pulse Cannon likewise gives two shots; a focussed beam, and a short-ranged, but wide-area shockwave attack.

Both these weapons can insta-gib, and most people would say they are far more powerful than any other Berserk. However, people often do not consider the full potential of other Berserks.

Take just two examples; Ironheart and Ring of Life. Ironheart means you take half damage whilst in Berserk Mode. Ring of Life creates an area that rapid-heals all allies (including yourself) until you die or the Berserk runs out.

Both of these make you very hard to kill. Ring of Life especially is great for team play. Also, unlike the "super gun" Berserks, activating them doesn't drain your Berserk Meter instantly. So, if you die two seconds after activating Ring of Life, when you respawn your Berserk Meter is still 99% full, making it very easy to get it back. If you die before you can fire your LAARK, you lose the weapon and all your Berserk.

This is what balances these weapons. Yes, they are very powerful, but considering that their rival abilities can a) be recharged faster and b) can help several players on the same team, their status as 'over powered' is not as deserved as an inexperienced gamer may initially assume. Even a high-level player can benefit from the "newbie" Berserks of Advanced Radar or Chimeran Rage.