What is "True Evil"

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Albino Assassin

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Okay so the title pretty tells you everything but just incase...
I want to know what the escapists idea on "True Evil" is. No I am not doing this for any particular reason I am just curious... :)
 

Jedoro

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True Evil is when you can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. True Evil is when you just want to watch the world burn.
 

Angerwing

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Rape.

Murder can be justified. If I had a child, and someone molested/killed them, I would murder the guy. Legally wrong, but I would personally find that morally acceptable.

Rape is one of the few crimes with literally no justification.

Edit: Also, last night I saw 6 guys beat up a homeless man with chair and their boots, for no good reason. He had blood pouring down his face. That's evil.
 

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badgersprite said:
A D&D alignment?
I've got the book right next to me and there was never any true evil. Would've been a nice joke though, ah well.

OT: A concept.
 

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badgersprite said:
A D&D alignment?
*Puts on his bottle-bottom glasses and whips out his calculator* AAACTUALLY! It's "chaotic evil"!

I don't think "true evil" exists. It's a human concept and perceptions of evil (and good for that matter) are purely subjective. It's a matter of perspective, really.
 

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Wuggy said:
badgersprite said:
A D&D alignment?
*Puts on his bottle-bottom glasses and whips out his calculator* AAACTUALLY! It's "chaotic evil"!

I don't think "true evil" exists. It's a human concept and perceptions of evil (and good for that matter) are purely subjective. It's a matter of perspective, really.
Nope, the players handbook describes neutral evil as "true evil".
 

Wuggy

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SL33TBL1ND said:
Wuggy said:
badgersprite said:
A D&D alignment?
*Puts on his bottle-bottom glasses and whips out his calculator* AAACTUALLY! It's "chaotic evil"!

I don't think "true evil" exists. It's a human concept and perceptions of evil (and good for that matter) are purely subjective. It's a matter of perspective, really.
Nope, the players handbook describes neutral evil as "true evil".
Hmm, I suppose that's true, but I'd dare to say that "chaotic evil" fits best to the "true evil" description. Neutral evil is more "out for themselves" type of people.

EDIT: Although, your mileage may vary.
 

AdamG3691

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look at anyone playing GTA or a god sim game where there's an evil option and you'll quickly come to the conclusion that true evil is human nature in a consequence free environment. or maybe I'm just overly cynical about humanity...

edit: as to the things people are saying regarding "evil is a concept developed by society", most things we consider evil, are considered evil because we needed to stop people doing them, so that implies that before we slapped the evil sticker on something, it was actually normal to do it...

think about it, a caveman (caveman A) finally kills an animal and another (caveman B) attempts to steal it, caveman A kills caveman B and cannibalizes his body. from a purely logic and survival based viewpoint it makes perfect sense, caveman A keeps his stuff, there is less competition for resources, assuming they are both male, less competition for a mate, and a free meal and more bones and other resources from caveman B's body

we consider murder and cannibalism evil because it is no longer a necessity, and therefore anyone else doing it is basically doing it for fun, if humanity was nearly wiped out and there were no other resources around, would you kill and eat another human if they were given the same dilemma? if you do, you survive and continue the human race, if you don't you die and the other human uses your body to survive, if neither do, humanity becomes extinct.
 

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Wuggy said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Wuggy said:
badgersprite said:
A D&D alignment?
*Puts on his bottle-bottom glasses and whips out his calculator* AAACTUALLY! It's "chaotic evil"!

I don't think "true evil" exists. It's a human concept and perceptions of evil (and good for that matter) are purely subjective. It's a matter of perspective, really.
Nope, the players handbook describes neutral evil as "true evil".
Hmm, I suppose that's true, but I'd dare to say that "chaotic evil" fits best to the "true evil" description. Neutral evil is more "out for themselves" type of people.

EDIT: Although, your mileage may vary.
I would agree, yes. I'm just being an annoying pedant though, not actually making an assessment of the descriptors.
 

Mr.Numbers

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Simple


Albert Fish achieved it.

Babysitting a kid then whilst the parents are away rape the little girl and then cook her and eat her. Write an essay on exactly what it was like for the parents to read when they get home. Repeat.

Deshara said:
Ugh. 'Evil' in the real world generally doesn't exist. It is knowingly bringing harm or suffering upon others without a backing justification. Could you call somebody evil for slaughtering enemies on the field in defense of the country? Could you call somebody evil for having people thrown in jail for attempting to bring down the country during time of war? The cartoonish idea of "right" and "wrong" exists so much in fiction, aside from proving an easy source of conflict, as a source of wish fulfillment. Almost nobody goes around kicking kittens FOR THE EVULZ, and that's what makes life so hard: In order to get into a nice, self-righteous "us versus them" attitude, you have to do some serious ignoring of the basic human nature of the people you choose to hate.
Try to come up with a person or act that actually fits this description then.

The BTK Dennis Radar. HH Holmes. Google these two.
 

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There's no accurate description, but you'll know it when you see it.

I'm sure there are plenty of people working for South American drug cartels who only want a better life for themselves and the people they love. But the conglomerate itself is truly evil, sparing nobody who stands in its way.

And then there's people like Marc Dutroux.
 

Esotera

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A silly construct that too many people view the world through. Describing events/people in terms of evil & good obscures the reason they happened, and can lead to a lot of harm being caused. For example, about every prison system in the world.
 

thiosk

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People who use public toilets and piss on the seats are an abomination unto the LORD.
 

Arakasi

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There is no true 'evil', it is a subjective term.

If I however, were to say what I thought constituted an 'evil' act in my opinion: rape, murder, torture and warmongering. There's probably more but those are just the ones on the top of my head.
 

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Wuggy said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Wuggy said:
badgersprite said:
A D&D alignment?
*Puts on his bottle-bottom glasses and whips out his calculator* AAACTUALLY! It's "chaotic evil"!

I don't think "true evil" exists. It's a human concept and perceptions of evil (and good for that matter) are purely subjective. It's a matter of perspective, really.
Nope, the players handbook describes neutral evil as "true evil".
Hmm, I suppose that's true, but I'd dare to say that "chaotic evil" fits best to the "true evil" description. Neutral evil is more "out for themselves" type of people.

EDIT: Although, your mileage may vary.
Actually, the way I look at it is all three of the evil alignments in D&D can be used as "True Evil" it all depends on what that evil person has in mind for goals that causes their particular evil to transcend into true evil, here's an example: goblins are neutral evil, Asmodeus is lawful evil, goblins are just kind of insane little monkeys who run around and like fire, but I'm damn sure anyone can consider Asmodeus to be a contender for "True Evil"
 

Alon Shechter

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I don't think such a thing exists.
After all, anyone that becomes "evil" has a set of events that twisted them into that way, and the same chain of events has a different outcome with each person.
Sure, people can be evil, but it never rises out of nothing.
However....
People who just DESTROY public restrooms by leaving their feces around.
Now that's pure evil and nothing can excuse it.