I'd say it has to include the words "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide."
Most other things people see as "evil" are tame in comparison.
Most other things people see as "evil" are tame in comparison.
What is "True Evil"
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Rape, sadistic cruelty, genocide, apathy
None of these can be justified for any reason. ANY REASON.
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None of these can be justified for any reason. ANY REASON.
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I'd describe the Westboro Baptist Church as true evil (not the ultimate evil, though). They operate within the law and the rights granted to all in an equal society, but with the intention of causing as much harm to others as they can. That to me is just so foul it's hard to believe anyone could act like that in a civilized society.
It just boils my blood that these sub-human cunts dedicate their lives to cause as much emotional pain and suffering to people already in a difficult situation, while at the same time forcing good people defend their right to do so.
It just boils my blood that these sub-human cunts dedicate their lives to cause as much emotional pain and suffering to people already in a difficult situation, while at the same time forcing good people defend their right to do so.
If Rebecca Brooks and any of the Murdochs had a child that would probably be True Evil 
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But on a serious note, True Evil? It is, in my opinion, merely a concept and could never be personified sufficiently. I agree that the examples shown here are abominable but they are evil with a hint of insanity or some other environmental factor included that has presented a reason why the perpetrator did such a thing. Even Satan/Devil isn't True Evil, as he was cast out of Heaven (According to the mythology) and felt slightly stung.
True Evil is like how Plato said everything had a form that all physical manifestations of that idea tried to imitate but never could 100%, that is why I believe True Evil could never be experienced by us in this Universe, as we might get 99.999% Evil but never True Evil.
(If I've lost anyone just search for "News of the World")
But on a serious note, True Evil? It is, in my opinion, merely a concept and could never be personified sufficiently. I agree that the examples shown here are abominable but they are evil with a hint of insanity or some other environmental factor included that has presented a reason why the perpetrator did such a thing. Even Satan/Devil isn't True Evil, as he was cast out of Heaven (According to the mythology) and felt slightly stung.
True Evil is like how Plato said everything had a form that all physical manifestations of that idea tried to imitate but never could 100%, that is why I believe True Evil could never be experienced by us in this Universe, as we might get 99.999% Evil but never True Evil.
true evil is what society makes of it we all judge maybe the so called 'good' is really the true evil? every thought about that?
They might have done. He could have been lying in that letter he wrote to the parents, but Grace Budd wasn't his only victim. You could be thinking of a little boy called Francis X McDonnell. He was the other one of Fish's three known victims.Mr.Numbers said:
This guy, 100%. He does not kill for fun, for a desire to watch the world burn. He does not kill for revenge, out of anger or of any obligation. How does he kill? He talks to you, befriends you, learns you. And then pits your deepest fears and secrets against you, compelling yourself to realize that you are below worthless in the rat race we call life. The lucky ones end up dead, or perhaps he may grant you your request to understand how he feels. In that case he will kill everyone around you, turn them against you, anyone who comes into contact with you will die and you will live alone; forever tormented by this ghost. He kills for no reason other than because he can, he will destroy you in every conceivable way possible. No smile, disgust or satisfaction will he ever feel; for he is a void of emotion or reason. He is but an empty monster who exists solely to destroy.
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Really? You took it to mean I was justifying rape, when common sense would tell you that its saying you cant justify murder either.
If I had more time to play with I might be compelled to play devils advocate just to further discussion, but I have only been lingering around here because I sort of anticipated someone would misread my statement.
But no.. theres no justification for rape or murder.
-Dons his black suit and tie and slick his hair back-Mr.Numbers said:
Well actually we have seen in the past that many people have justified murder, rape, genocide and pretty much every single crime conjured up by man's black little heart.
They may not be valid justifications in your eyes but that doesn't stop them being justified.
They weren't raised properly (heavy abuse or taught it's ok).Mr.Numbers said:
They're not in their right mind.
They are missing a piece in their brain that usually stops such things.
I'm not actually saying this justifys it, I believe they should be punished no matter what (or treated). However, these are the reasons I don't believe in evil, because these are usually the case and I just feel sorry for them. Just like pedophiles that act, born with unacceptable desires and they all need help before anything bad happens.
The nature of evil is a slippery beast to pin down. The closest thing I can come up for it is that it is sociopathy. (Not to be confused with psychopathy)
Or perhaps it could be extreme douchebaggery mixed with the balls to carry it out while unburdened by one's own conscience.
However, with advances in psychology - evil is less and less powerful as a concept. After all, an evil act can almost be explained away as an act born of a whole plethora of mental illnesses or neurological conditions.
After all, some whack job could stab a complete stranger for seemingly no purpose. To us, it is an act of evil. To the nutter, he was most likely hallucinating as a result of not taking his medication for whatever it is he has and saw the victim as something trying to kill him.
I don't think there's truly such thing as evil any more. Evil is nothing more than a buzzword that gets screamed by the papers because they are too lazy to look at the reasons why someone has done something and to bolster their sales.
There's a lot of fucked up crap out there in the world - but I balk to call most of it evil.
Or perhaps it could be extreme douchebaggery mixed with the balls to carry it out while unburdened by one's own conscience.
However, with advances in psychology - evil is less and less powerful as a concept. After all, an evil act can almost be explained away as an act born of a whole plethora of mental illnesses or neurological conditions.
After all, some whack job could stab a complete stranger for seemingly no purpose. To us, it is an act of evil. To the nutter, he was most likely hallucinating as a result of not taking his medication for whatever it is he has and saw the victim as something trying to kill him.
I don't think there's truly such thing as evil any more. Evil is nothing more than a buzzword that gets screamed by the papers because they are too lazy to look at the reasons why someone has done something and to bolster their sales.
There's a lot of fucked up crap out there in the world - but I balk to call most of it evil.
Murder can be justified depending on who you're murdering (murdering Hitler?). I mean I take issue with that but justifications are not really objective so dangit.
True evil? Nonexistent. The idea of evil is a difficult one because if you go into someone else's head it's not like they do those things for the purpose of being evil, such people are extraordinarily rare if they exist at all. To continue Godwinnning up this shizzle, do you really think Hitler thought he was an evil man who should be stopped? Unlikely, he believed what he was doing was right, we look on it as some of the vilest actions man has ever committed, he doesn't (and apparently many support him, even with hindsight, yay for neo nazis).
Point is, people being evil is subjective, even with the vast majority against them THEY STILL THINK THEY'RE RIGHT. So 'true' evil, evil which is objectively evil...just doesn't work.
I suppose it does depend on the definition though, for me evil needs a thinking force behind it, so a virus can't be evil, it's not thinking, just procreating. People can be but cannot be 'truly' evil so long as they think they're doing good and so on. It's just an unrealistic concept.
Except Jigglypuff, that pokemon can burn.
Sing pound pound pound SING pound pound SING pound SINNNGGG
'cry'
True evil? Nonexistent. The idea of evil is a difficult one because if you go into someone else's head it's not like they do those things for the purpose of being evil, such people are extraordinarily rare if they exist at all. To continue Godwinnning up this shizzle, do you really think Hitler thought he was an evil man who should be stopped? Unlikely, he believed what he was doing was right, we look on it as some of the vilest actions man has ever committed, he doesn't (and apparently many support him, even with hindsight, yay for neo nazis).
Point is, people being evil is subjective, even with the vast majority against them THEY STILL THINK THEY'RE RIGHT. So 'true' evil, evil which is objectively evil...just doesn't work.
I suppose it does depend on the definition though, for me evil needs a thinking force behind it, so a virus can't be evil, it's not thinking, just procreating. People can be but cannot be 'truly' evil so long as they think they're doing good and so on. It's just an unrealistic concept.
Except Jigglypuff, that pokemon can burn.
Sing pound pound pound SING pound pound SING pound SINNNGGG
'cry'
I would have to disagree with you there. A chaotic evil character has no regard for the law, he has no regard for morals or codes he also despises order and will generally fight against it at every given oppertunity. He lives his life going between wicked deeds with little to no planning or forethought. in the rare occasion he does plan, it won't be very well thought out, or very structured. In short he's more of a psychopathic douche.Wuggy said:
A lawful evil character is the sort who commits evil acts by warping and twisting laws, morals and codes to his own end. He will also generally stick to his own moral codes, like not killing innocents but he will turn a blind eye if an underling does it. In a sense they're more the evil tyrants. They tend to be oppressive and ruthless people who use the law to their own advantage.
Neutral evil probably best describes true evil better, as it is a combination of the above two. A neutral evil character will follow laws and morals, but only when it is advantageous to themselves or their plans. He see the use in laws and morals but views as mere guidelines. There is generally nothing this person won't do to get what he wants or to fulfil whatever evil scheme he happens to be involved in.