What is "True Evil"
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True Evil to me, is just wanting to be Evil without any other motivation I.E personal gain or revenge.
Just Evil for Evils sake!
Just Evil for Evils sake!
Money is true evil
It corrupts absolutely and creates death and destruction that outweighs any good it's used for, because it's the material equivalent of power.
Also religion, religion, or someones interpretation of it, pretty much killed so many people or was used as an excuse to kill people, so religion too.
It corrupts absolutely and creates death and destruction that outweighs any good it's used for, because it's the material equivalent of power.
Also religion, religion, or someones interpretation of it, pretty much killed so many people or was used as an excuse to kill people, so religion too.
This, as lawful evil is often simply in subservience, or good in its own ways.Wuggy said:
Neutral evil is greed.
Chaotic evil, that is some F***ed up s***. That is where nothing matters, where you don't care, all you enjoy is pain, and lots of it. That is the ultimate, untainted evil.
And I must resist the TVT... Must... res... *dies on the spot with mouse cursor millimetres away from the search button after TV tropes is entered in the edit-bar...*
-Something with NO good reasoning.
-I'm not defending rapists here BUT at least with rape they'll do it because THEY enjoy it, it's a basic chemical in the brain after all - we ALL have it, most of just learn to repress it though. It's still evil, don't get me wrong but they have a reason. Torturing someone you hate and killing them slowly is evil but there's still a reason behind it, hence not true evil.
-Now when there's no reasoning at all, it's madness - in which case it's not the fault of that person, hence not true evil.
-If a mugger steals your money then he'll probably be spending it on something, be in drugs, alcohol or whatever point being is there IS still a reason you could see from the criminals point of view.
TRUE evil consists of a reason being there (hence sanity intact) but it being so minimal or out of the way it's just completely wrong. I.E Someone going into a store and killing everyone inside, then taking the money - which is then spend on new guns, it's built up evil which is true cruelness. To the point that killing ALL the people was without a good reason (I.E to get something that naturally they won't enjoy). That would be true evil. Since there's evil, reasoning with no point. I.E True Evil.
-I'm not defending rapists here BUT at least with rape they'll do it because THEY enjoy it, it's a basic chemical in the brain after all - we ALL have it, most of just learn to repress it though. It's still evil, don't get me wrong but they have a reason. Torturing someone you hate and killing them slowly is evil but there's still a reason behind it, hence not true evil.
-Now when there's no reasoning at all, it's madness - in which case it's not the fault of that person, hence not true evil.
-If a mugger steals your money then he'll probably be spending it on something, be in drugs, alcohol or whatever point being is there IS still a reason you could see from the criminals point of view.
TRUE evil consists of a reason being there (hence sanity intact) but it being so minimal or out of the way it's just completely wrong. I.E Someone going into a store and killing everyone inside, then taking the money - which is then spend on new guns, it's built up evil which is true cruelness. To the point that killing ALL the people was without a good reason (I.E to get something that naturally they won't enjoy). That would be true evil. Since there's evil, reasoning with no point. I.E True Evil.
True evil, Lord Voldemort is a prime example of being evil. He is far more evil than Satan, or Darth Vader for example
Lord Voldemort is visibly a deeply evil and corrupted character from a very early age, with no real reason behind it, except for being left with no parents, but not all orphans are so demonically evil. He is just evil for the sake of being evil, he wants to cause pain and suffering both long term, and short term. Without a second thought he splits his soul into 7 (8 if you count the time he didn't mean to) pieces, to ensure that his reign of evil did not stop. He doesn't want to rule the world, he wants to influence it in his own image, for maximum oppression, mental instability, fear, anguish and pain. The way he feels towards un-pure witches and wizards are also very extreme, as it's racism. He believe's that all of them should be destroyed. Thats, the half wizard/witch humans, and humanity itself.
Satan isn't evil at all really, if you go for the original Satan, and not the Gothic pop culture version- Then Satan was the lord of music, who was cast of of heaven and into hell for questioning god. That's it, nothing more! And then we damn him as the lord of all evil for having free will? Tbh, I'd say god was more evil, for damning his life to a eternity of fire and anguish for having free will.
Darth Vader, isn't evil. He is weak, he fell to the lure of the dark side, and with no direct control over himself, he blindly did the emperors bidding. He was a good Jedi to start with, but was weak with the thought of revenge on the sand people. And not to mention he redeemed himself, overall not very evil
Lord Voldemort is visibly a deeply evil and corrupted character from a very early age, with no real reason behind it, except for being left with no parents, but not all orphans are so demonically evil. He is just evil for the sake of being evil, he wants to cause pain and suffering both long term, and short term. Without a second thought he splits his soul into 7 (8 if you count the time he didn't mean to) pieces, to ensure that his reign of evil did not stop. He doesn't want to rule the world, he wants to influence it in his own image, for maximum oppression, mental instability, fear, anguish and pain. The way he feels towards un-pure witches and wizards are also very extreme, as it's racism. He believe's that all of them should be destroyed. Thats, the half wizard/witch humans, and humanity itself.
Satan isn't evil at all really, if you go for the original Satan, and not the Gothic pop culture version- Then Satan was the lord of music, who was cast of of heaven and into hell for questioning god. That's it, nothing more! And then we damn him as the lord of all evil for having free will? Tbh, I'd say god was more evil, for damning his life to a eternity of fire and anguish for having free will.
Darth Vader, isn't evil. He is weak, he fell to the lure of the dark side, and with no direct control over himself, he blindly did the emperors bidding. He was a good Jedi to start with, but was weak with the thought of revenge on the sand people. And not to mention he redeemed himself, overall not very evil
As an unashamed sociopath, I would like to fiercely resist several claims made thus far that True Evil and Sociopathy are one and the same.
A sociopath is someone for whom violation of social norms and rules does not bring guilt, and for whom social pressure to that effect is not a catalyst for reform. Emotion and empathy are bundled in with this - "feeling" a particular way in response to the cues and manipulations of other people is a struggle for the sociopath.
Morality is not about doing what everybody tells you. WW2 Germany is a case study to that effect. Nor is it about emotion, as anyone who's had to make a critical judgement over the distribution of resources will understand first hand.
It is entirely possible to have an abstract idea, perhaps even a well-formed theory, of the right thing to do whilst nonetheless dismissing the consensus or emotive opinions of the world you live in. In fact, if you are unable to do that, it seems clear to me that you are extremely susceptable to control by those with a wider agenda.
A sociopath is someone for whom violation of social norms and rules does not bring guilt, and for whom social pressure to that effect is not a catalyst for reform. Emotion and empathy are bundled in with this - "feeling" a particular way in response to the cues and manipulations of other people is a struggle for the sociopath.
Morality is not about doing what everybody tells you. WW2 Germany is a case study to that effect. Nor is it about emotion, as anyone who's had to make a critical judgement over the distribution of resources will understand first hand.
It is entirely possible to have an abstract idea, perhaps even a well-formed theory, of the right thing to do whilst nonetheless dismissing the consensus or emotive opinions of the world you live in. In fact, if you are unable to do that, it seems clear to me that you are extremely susceptable to control by those with a wider agenda.
True evil is causing pain for everyone around you by any means necessary, purely for your enjoyment, whilst having a full grasp of the consequences.
Technicly There is no such thing as "evil"
There are things that are morally unaccepttable but the person that did it tends to be horrified with himself or totally fucking coocoo-banana nuts.
Hitler didn't wake up every day thinking mohahaha what will kill today.
He thought what he was doing was the right thing to do.(It proberbly helped he was crazy.)
So according to me there is no such thing as true evil.
The commiter will not look at himself and proudly say that he's evil without being insane or TERRIBLY terribly misguided.
I really hope that this will not get interperted that i think that criminals shouldn't get punished.
There are things that are morally unaccepttable but the person that did it tends to be horrified with himself or totally fucking coocoo-banana nuts.
Hitler didn't wake up every day thinking mohahaha what will kill today.
He thought what he was doing was the right thing to do.(It proberbly helped he was crazy.)
So according to me there is no such thing as true evil.
The commiter will not look at himself and proudly say that he's evil without being insane or TERRIBLY terribly misguided.
I really hope that this will not get interperted that i think that criminals shouldn't get punished.
Evil, is when someone else violently disagrees with the standard.
Good and evil are constructs entirely of our creation, one is defined only by the other.
Are there things I personally find reprehensible?, yes. Will I fight against those things?, yes. Do I operate under the delusional pretense that my point of view is somehow an objective truth that cannot be denied by the word of some transcendental entity or law?, no, no such ting as an objective truth exists, as the very idea of such a thing is of the origin of the space between the pit of our fears and the summit of our knowledge, our imagination.
Good and evil are constructs entirely of our creation, one is defined only by the other.
Are there things I personally find reprehensible?, yes. Will I fight against those things?, yes. Do I operate under the delusional pretense that my point of view is somehow an objective truth that cannot be denied by the word of some transcendental entity or law?, no, no such ting as an objective truth exists, as the very idea of such a thing is of the origin of the space between the pit of our fears and the summit of our knowledge, our imagination.
You are absolutely incorrect. You can kill people for a good reason. It's justified. Of course, it does come down to morals, but it's still possible to have legitimate purpose behind a murder.viranimus said:
Rape has no moral justification.
As for the rest of your post, whatever. That's not really relevant to what I'm saying.
Let's say you had just invaded a country, and the soldiers wanted to rape the Dictator. Or maybe just the dictators wife who had many opportunities to kill the dictator.Mr.Numbers said:
Or Bankers who move assets to their wives so they cannot be seized by the state. I think it would be OK to rape those men and women.
Considering something wrong by your own moral standards and doing it anyway. Someone who kills or rapes because they think it's right is not doing "evil". Their actions may be dispicable, but not "evil". If someone thinks "Rape is wrong, but i'll do it anyway". That's "evil". They know something is wrong, evil, bad, whatever you want to call it, but they do it anyway.
I don't really believe in moral of any kind, so I'm gonna go with stupidity. Pure evil = doing something that is harmful to everyone, even you, while knowing exactly how harmful it is.
Smoking is a good example of pure evil, you lose money when you buy ciqarettes and harm everyone around you, including you.
Smoking is a good example of pure evil, you lose money when you buy ciqarettes and harm everyone around you, including you.
