I was bullied as a kid both mentally and physically. It does not stop when you tell the school, at least it didn't when I did. It only stopped when I pushed one into the bus stop causing minor and non-permanant back problems. I busted the other's lip really good. Guess what! Didn't happer EVER again. I didn't read the story but if he did almost kill the kid that aint cool. You need to be able to apply the proper ammount of force for the situation. Overall, I'm ok with this. At least he took it out in a non-leathal way on the bully instead of, ow I don't know, bringing a gun to school and killing anyone who was a bully or did nothing to stop it.
What is wrong with the internet?
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Natural selection, it's like a kid poking a dog and then the dog bites the kid. Don't do it! That kid learned the hard way. Also it's not like he brought a gun or knife to the school.
This is what's wrong with the internet, people exaggerating, yes that limp killed the kid, and after Casey once defended himself he became a serial killer, and all who played Bulletstorm are rapists, and Hitler actually invented Tetris,...chunkeymonke said:
Going into extremes simply fuels the internets wars, so what's really wrong with internet is you.
The less said about my adventure through the Clark County School District the better.emeraldrafael said:
The school I was actually talking about was a mix of public high schools middle schools my ex-girlfriend subbed at. The parents of 95% of the students who go to schools in the district are more upset at the school for making them miss work than they are at their kid for starting trouble. The schools don't want to deal with it, so they generally just sit the troublemaker in the dean's office and after a week of that they let them do what they want until next time they end up in there. It's hardly a detterant.
Guess Penn Trafford was different. If you were caught anywhere fighting, it was a no tolerance policy. I know I had an officer called on me for one of my fights in High School. But it sure taught that kid to never call me a brown rain dancing feather wearer again.Ladette said:
Against bullies it usually works.Nouw said:
You see, they bully others because they think they have power. This guy fought back and will most likely be left alone for the entire year.
I've read similar cases in Sweden where one bully locked himself in with his victim but this time the victim had enough and started to beat the crap out of him. That pretty much stopped the entire bullying part.
All though pile driving might have been a tad bit too much it's probably did a much greater effect on the kid.
No, it doesn't help and have never helped. If you have been bullied you would know this. Telling the teacher won't really get the kid into any real trouble. They can't even get the kid expelled for bullying or have him transfered to another school which imo would be the best choice.Nouw said:
Most of the time it's the victim that has to move. THE VICTIM.
The whole "no violence will solve everything" pfft yea right. Kids are kids, the moment they bound something to pain they are bound to be hesitating more the next time because it hurts and pain isn't fun for kids.
This comes from experience because people bullied me due to my last name. I told the teachers several times and they talked with the guys. Nothing ever happened. So I had to wait several years before they grew up and actually got nicer. Had I beaten the crap out of them they most likely wouldn't do it.
I have very very strong views on self defence. I think casey was entirely in the right. Imagine if this pathetic depraved excuse for a rat decided to go punch some random guy in the street. He would get the crap beaten out of him. You start a fight you cant win? You get the crap kicked out of you. Its basic rule of real life. Is it fair? Maybe not. Is it what happens? Sure as hell. Next time your out try and find someone twice your size. Then imagine what would happen if, unprovoked, you assaulted this person.chunkeymonke said:
I also believe people who get pleasure from inflicting suffering on others are not people, do not possess souls, and are little better than animals (for the duration of their outbursts for pure evil, redemption and reformation are good). See that rat things face when he insults casey, and just nails him in the face? He doesnt even see casey as a person. By my definition this rat kid has given up his right to be called a person (albiet only for this situation). He is now an animal of the lowest order. I think if casey died that rat kid wouldnt have given two fucks. Why does he have more right? He doesnt. And he got what he deserved. Being punched in the face is serious, that could have broken his nose or knocked him out cold. If his head went back into the brick wall he could have suffered brain trauma.
I used to believe that too, I always posted 'violence has solved the most problems' for a while and realized that I was an idiot. I'm not going to try and convince you but when you find out too please tell me.Zefar said:
[sub]I'm not implying you're an idiot.[/sub]
As a victim of bullying in my pre-teen years and a anti-bully(one that scared them away with a stare) during my teens i can tell you one thing.
bullys dont listen with their ears, they listen with their body. words wont make them stop, no matter how well you phrase yourself.
the only thing that will make a bully stop is
1, boredom of a target (unlikely)
2, serious threat to their wellbeing. be it parents or school threatening them with something.
3, a alpha male display.
3, is the reason why you will see bullys throw punches at eachothers sometimes to judge eachother and get the ranks established.
and it is the reason why most people will need to stand up just once against their bully to make them stop. (wont allways work, but in most cases)
its hard to get past bullying. i myself was lucky to grow fast and at a young age. other people aint so lucky.
bullys dont listen with their ears, they listen with their body. words wont make them stop, no matter how well you phrase yourself.
the only thing that will make a bully stop is
1, boredom of a target (unlikely)
2, serious threat to their wellbeing. be it parents or school threatening them with something.
3, a alpha male display.
3, is the reason why you will see bullys throw punches at eachothers sometimes to judge eachother and get the ranks established.
and it is the reason why most people will need to stand up just once against their bully to make them stop. (wont allways work, but in most cases)
its hard to get past bullying. i myself was lucky to grow fast and at a young age. other people aint so lucky.
@AngloDoom
Perhaps you'd like to respond to the OP directly, rather than with vague platitudes. He or she wasn't only giving an opinion, they were trying to justify their position as well as asking for a justification from people whose 'opinion' opposed theirs.
On a general note, I agree strongly with the OP. I find it extremely troubling how many people seem to think that revenge is more important than the rule of law.
What could he have done? Called the cops. Bullies are scumbags, but revenge does not make anything right.
Perhaps you'd like to respond to the OP directly, rather than with vague platitudes. He or she wasn't only giving an opinion, they were trying to justify their position as well as asking for a justification from people whose 'opinion' opposed theirs.
On a general note, I agree strongly with the OP. I find it extremely troubling how many people seem to think that revenge is more important than the rule of law.
What could he have done? Called the cops. Bullies are scumbags, but revenge does not make anything right.