Hey if they're not mentally well I have no problems in stuffing them in the whacko bin instead of hanging them.Lem0nade Inlay said:
What is your opinion on the Death Penalty and why?
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When it has been confirmed that a person has committed rape or murder, that person should be given the death penalty, regardless of whether or not they have mental problems. And the death penalty shouldn't be painless or expensive, the person should just get stabbed and thrown in a pit, or burned alive. Yeah it could seem harsh, but do people that do that deserve anything less?
As much as i agree with you the last statement is wrong. Sadly (and i love humanity by the way, this isnt some "i hate people rant") when it comes to crimes no matter how severe or light the punishment crime rates tend to be the same in areas of similar wealth and quality of life. I call it the "nothing works system" fact is if someone is desperate or deranged to commit such a crime they are going under the assumption they will get away with it. They are confident they will not be caught. As such they do not fear the punishment even if it is DEATH.SomeLameStuff said:
However i think your right in saying we should have the death penelty. I used to be a firm believer in karma. But you know what? It sucks, good things happen to bad people. Which is when i saw that in fact, our whole society is based on IMPLIMENTING karma into the world. Capitolism awards the hard workers while our justice system punishes the lazy and evil. I think if you willingly and maliciously infringe on someones rights you then lose those rights for you. If you dont think others worthy of them, why do you deserve them? For example theft. I think a fine of the amount stolen would be appropriate or a prison scentence by ratio of amount stolen. Murder is the final evil, giving up your whole right to life. If you kill someone cold blooded, no understandable motivation, you give up your right to live.
I'm strongly opposed to it. To me, it symbolises everything wrong with the world right now. If I found someone who'd done something I saw as evil, I can't kill them without severe consequences. Why should government be allowed to kill people with no penalty? It's just reinforcing the idea that government is allowed to decide who should live and who should die.
Some people need to be punished for what they've done, I'm not denying that, but killing someone is such an act, regardless of who does it.
Also, ever hear of rehabilitation, or channelling things constructively? Killing is a waste of life that could otherwise go to good use. Even those who are beyond redemption can have some purpose.
But mainly the hypocrisy of it is what gets to me. You're free to have your own views on this issue, but I personally despise that this goes on accepted.
Some people need to be punished for what they've done, I'm not denying that, but killing someone is such an act, regardless of who does it.
Also, ever hear of rehabilitation, or channelling things constructively? Killing is a waste of life that could otherwise go to good use. Even those who are beyond redemption can have some purpose.
But mainly the hypocrisy of it is what gets to me. You're free to have your own views on this issue, but I personally despise that this goes on accepted.
Well, I gues your from the US and like you know im doing this for school can ya also tell me how long a person can be on Death Row?krimson_dropz said:
There's no evidence that it's a deterrence. At all.SomeLameStuff said:
You might think it would be, but it isn't.
And what happens when someone is totally innocent and is framed for murder? It's happened before. They get executed, and then new evidence comes out proving their innocence.
It's a stupid, moronic way of taking "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" too far.
Appeals and bureaucracy do not go hand in hand. Perhaps have it so there's one appeal, to a higher authority, and so on their head be it if they're innocent/guilty.stinkychops said:
Why should we have to feed someone to live the rest of their life in prison?
I am loathe to say this but we live in countries where there are people living in poverty - it's not just limited to the Third World!
Britain (where I live) is MASSIVELY in debt and there are calls for shorter prison sentences because of overcrowding. In essence what this means is nobody serves their full sentence and the prison system is back to being a joke again.
There is no sense to capital punishment, it achieves no significant useful objective. Plus risk, however small, of executing an innocent person is unacceptable.
My issue with the death penalty is that sometimes innocent people are convicted and killed for crimes such as those which they did not commit, and it is not discovered until after the fact that they were not actually the culprit. I can't support it because there's always a chance that a person could be innocent, and so long as such a chance exists it should not be done. It's better to let all guilty people live than to kill one innocent person by mistake, I think.SomeLameStuff said:
A lot Death Penalty supporters want to talk big game, like they could kill somebody if they had to. Fact is, most sane people couldn't do it unless they absolutely had to. Killing is a messy and disgusting thing, and definitely not something anyone is ever proud of in the long run. Soldiers don't have a choice, it's either defend yourself and your friends, or die.
I've never met a soldier who WANTED to talk about how many people he killed, like it was a movie or something.
Fact is, if you can't kill someone yourself, who ARE you to tell someone else to do it.
Could you live with it later?
No, no you couldn't: UNLESS you were a psychopath.
Also:
People aren't just spawned out of the pits of hell, like monsters.
They had to come from somewhere.
Could honestly tell someone, face to face:
"Hey, I've decided that your son/grandson/nephew/cousin/FATHER is going to die, and there's nothing you can do about it."
Could you?
And I know that pro death penalty don't care about this sort of thing.
They never do.
Because that's the sort of people they are.
And given that this is an INTERNET debate we're talking about, they REALLY won't care since they don't have to look anyone face to face.
And that's what it comes down to, really.
Cowardice.
They're afraid, and they don't want to accept responsibility for their choices or confront a part of their humanity that they just barely understand.
So they hide behind mockery, dehumanization, and moralizing to shield themselves from the hard to accept realities and tragedies of life.
Terrible things happen, and so do tragic things, and even disgusting things.
But it doesn't mean we can let raw emotion get to us, nor let our rage guide our actions.
It's irresponsible.
I've never met a soldier who WANTED to talk about how many people he killed, like it was a movie or something.
Fact is, if you can't kill someone yourself, who ARE you to tell someone else to do it.
Could you live with it later?
No, no you couldn't: UNLESS you were a psychopath.
Also:
People aren't just spawned out of the pits of hell, like monsters.
They had to come from somewhere.
Could honestly tell someone, face to face:
"Hey, I've decided that your son/grandson/nephew/cousin/FATHER is going to die, and there's nothing you can do about it."
Could you?
And I know that pro death penalty don't care about this sort of thing.
They never do.
Because that's the sort of people they are.
And given that this is an INTERNET debate we're talking about, they REALLY won't care since they don't have to look anyone face to face.
And that's what it comes down to, really.
Cowardice.
They're afraid, and they don't want to accept responsibility for their choices or confront a part of their humanity that they just barely understand.
So they hide behind mockery, dehumanization, and moralizing to shield themselves from the hard to accept realities and tragedies of life.
Terrible things happen, and so do tragic things, and even disgusting things.
But it doesn't mean we can let raw emotion get to us, nor let our rage guide our actions.
It's irresponsible.
I don't want innocents to be sentenced a punishment that can never be takne back. The obvious question is: Would I be in favor of it if there was some way to make sure only guilty people were punished? Well, no, because the death penalty is still the idea that you're not allowed to even exist without the permission of the government.
