ive fired a few guns some pretty serious hardware and some like pea shooters but i live in the stab capitol of the world, more ppl are carrying knives here than they ever did guns.....including school kids which is just not on.
What Makes Guns so Awesome or Not Awesome to You?
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*puts on history buff hat*tharwen said:
The battle of Somme
Great Britain- 420,000
France- 194,000
Germany-465,000
If I'm translating my notes correctly, that's just the casualties.
OT: three things
1. I'm ADD and guns make loud noises, eject shiny shells, and smell like fireworks.
2. Deer are delicious.
3. Target shooting is a sport I'm actually good at.
They're cool because they represent productivity, and as an American I feel that advanced technology gets a "that's cool" sticker.
They get extra points for:
Number of barrels
Splash damage
Rounds per Minute
Cool design
They get extra points for:
Number of barrels
Splash damage
Rounds per Minute
Cool design
So do knives, so do baseball bats, so do chairs, so do fists. People kill, guns are a tool.Joe Matsuda said:
I happen to be a gun nut, I use them as tools to kill pests, and I use them for fun target shooting on my property. It happens to be a nice hobby and has never hurt anyone. On the contrary the rabbits I kill as pests are given away, there is a lady not to far away who helps care for the horses who can't seem to get enough of them. I would think my ammo, skill, and guns are actually benefiting her. The removal of the pests defiantly benefits the horses who would other wise risk injury in a rabbit hole.
Guns are not evil, malicious, or anything other then tools in the hands of people.
Times change quickly. It was not illegal, or even against school policy to carry a knife when I went to school, well at least one with a blade less then 2" long. I carried a small folding knife with me the entire time I was in school. There was only a couple of stabbings as well, only one actually inside the school. In a school where we where allowed to carry a knife with over 4000 students, I think one in school stabbing makes for some pretty good numbers.GeneralDefiance said:
What makes guns awesome? Well the fact they they can be so tiny and the bullets are even smaller yet they can do so much damage very quickly. It is very thrilling to fire them.
What makes them not awesome is idiots who get their hands on guns, think they are invincible and go around and shoot innocent people.
People who won a gun for something like sport, hunting etc I'm fine with them but people who posses a gun, mainly illigally, just pisses me off so much.
What makes them not awesome is idiots who get their hands on guns, think they are invincible and go around and shoot innocent people.
People who won a gun for something like sport, hunting etc I'm fine with them but people who posses a gun, mainly illigally, just pisses me off so much.
So, to sum up, you trust criminals to just rob you and then leave you alone, and you refuse to use the threat of force to defend yourself even if you have that option, because you seem to find the possibility that you might have to deliver on that threat to be scarier than the prospect that they'll rob you, then go on to harm you anyway for no reason whatsoever. Incidentally, that happens a lot more than you'd think, but statistics are irrelevant to the individual -- the question is, are you willing to take the chance that the person trying to steal your money isn't also a raging psychopath? There have been several robbery cases in this country in which a burglar confronts a victim (often an elderly person) and demands valuables, the victim complies and offers no resistance, and the assailant beats them to death anyway.SakSak said:
But wait, I see their mistake, they should have run away instead! First assuming that fleeing your assailant is even possible (and that's a big assumption to make, too bad if they're between you and the exit), it's only a safe way out of a confrontation if your assailants choose not to chase you, and that's a big if. Otherwise it becomes a pursuit with all of the associated risks. Running away didn't work out so well for this guy [http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/28/2832330.htm].
Now who's nitpicking? I said "force" in the sense that it's the only reasonable option available at that point. In the same way I might say "The squad of soldiers was forced to fall back in the face of the overwhelming enemy attack". Sure, they're not literally forced to retreat, that's not the only option open to them, because they could, say, just stay there and get crushed by the superior force or surrender and hope their captors treat them well, a choice that's right up your alley, I'm sure.SakSak said:
Oh for god's sake, how many times do I have to say this? If someone is holding you up or has broken into your house, you have no way of knowing why they're there or what they plan to do, and by simply letting them do their thing unhindered, you're putting your life (and, potentially, those of others) in their hands. Sure, it's most likely by far that they're just there to steal stuff and will leave at the first sign of trouble, but what guarantee do you have that they won't violently attack you or other occupants of the house? Sure it's unlikely, but how comforting would that be if it happened to you and you failed to act to prevent it?SakSak said:
That depends entirely on the circumstances. If I lived alone, I would do exactly that, because possessions would be all I have to lose and they're not worth the risk, but what if there are other people in the house who are all sleeping in various rooms? By simply going and hiding rather than confronting the intruder, you're leaving them defenseless. If that intruder just happens to stab one of your loved ones to death in their bed, what are you going to say? "I was afraid to risk my own neck so I hid"?[/quote]SakSak said:
Of course, because every occupant of a house sleeps in the same room, right? Do you seriously think that -- in a household of more than a few people -- it's possible to go around to the various bedrooms, wake the occupants and alert them to the danger, and round them all up into a single room that you can easily guard, all without making noise to alert or otherwise encountering the intruder who's already in the building? And all as part of a convoluted strategy to avoid confronting the intruder (even potentially throwing away a good opportunity to catch them off-guard) so that the "professionals" can handle it for you an indeterminable amount of time later?SakSak said:
I wasn't suggesting that a gun turns a paraplegic into a warrior. The fact remains that a handgun can be used effectively (if the situation requires it) by people for whom martial arts and many melee weapons would be next to useless. The elderly, the sick, or the pregnant, for instance.SakSak said:
Used to be a gun nut, until a mate was over my house whilst I was cleaning my rifle, before I could say shi* he had grabbed it up off the table pointed it at my head and pulled the trigger whilst yelling "BANG"
It was then that I realised that a lot of people out there have no concept of gun saftey, I now keep my rifle in the locker at the local range.
Just the thought of having a gun in my house gives me the chills these days especially with having children and all.
It was then that I realised that a lot of people out there have no concept of gun saftey, I now keep my rifle in the locker at the local range.
Just the thought of having a gun in my house gives me the chills these days especially with having children and all.
I kinda do/don't like guns
Sniper Rifles are awesome because you can't just pick one up and expect to do a headshot right off the bat.
Swords are alot better than most guns because you need alot of skill to use them properly. (also because swords are pretty bad-ass)
Sniper Rifles are awesome because you can't just pick one up and expect to do a headshot right off the bat.
Swords are alot better than most guns because you need alot of skill to use them properly. (also because swords are pretty bad-ass)
Not awesome.
Games: I haven't the reflexes
Life: Their possession cause death, pain and fear.
So, are Americans really as gungho about gun ownership as we foreigners have been led to believe?
Games: I haven't the reflexes
Life: Their possession cause death, pain and fear.
So, are Americans really as gungho about gun ownership as we foreigners have been led to believe?
i love shooting and using guns. no idea why.
i like the look of them, i like the satisfaction of pulling off a difficult shot, the history behind some of them. i don't in any way want to use them on people or anything, i hate combat/fighting, i don't hunt that much (although i do enjoy it).
same reason i like classic/fast cars.. i just do.
i understand people dislike/fear them for the same personal reasons..they just do.. but keep it to yourselves imo, don't push your insecurities/fears onto us.
i like the look of them, i like the satisfaction of pulling off a difficult shot, the history behind some of them. i don't in any way want to use them on people or anything, i hate combat/fighting, i don't hunt that much (although i do enjoy it).
same reason i like classic/fast cars.. i just do.
i understand people dislike/fear them for the same personal reasons..they just do.. but keep it to yourselves imo, don't push your insecurities/fears onto us.
Magical melee weapons > magic > melee weapons > non-gun projectile weapons >>>>>>>>> guns
As far as I'm concerned, guns are "not awesome" unless they have notable special traits such as energy projectiles, explosive shells, or can transform into automatic turrets.
As far as I'm concerned, guns are "not awesome" unless they have notable special traits such as energy projectiles, explosive shells, or can transform into automatic turrets.
Interesting article you have linked to. Ignoring the unlucky lad who ran across a road and was hit by a car (I am happy to debate the merits of road safety and checking a street before you cross it with you on a separate road safety forum if you wish), that article talks about a confrontation between 3 males and another 4 young males, where someone got punched and ended up in hospital.MattyDienhoff said:
How different would that confrontation have been if everyone was carrying a firearm?
Everyone draws their weapons and realises that people are about to get hurt so both groups back away and no-one gets hurt (maybe)
Or everyone draws their weapons and one of the kids pull the trigger and a lot of people get shot (also maybe)