What makes the Illusive Man evil?
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Haha, I was just pulling your leg.Vern5 said:
OT: I think this is what's great about the character of the Illusive Man is that it's totally ambiguous. I would totally call him evil. Maybe it's because I'm a black guy, so the fact that there's a guy who'd stop at nothing to make sure his own race (humans in this case, but it doesn't take a genius to spot certain other parallels) is dominant over all others makes me a little uncomfortable. But if others think differently, that that's fine too.
Agreed. Playing through the game with friends several times, seeing the multiple endings I would hardly say I saw him as evil. He's direct in his goals and will do whatever it takes to see his species survive in a very cold and violent galaxy of wars and upheaval on all sides.SaneAmongInsane said:
Seemed to me like he was only 'the bad guy' because Bioware said so.
He was never meant to be strictly evil, he's much more complex than that. I could see his point, but I still disagreed with his sentiments, and more importantly, with his methods.
Anyone who is willing to sacrifice, and kill, innocent people just to gain information or data--on a regular basis--can not be trusted in my book. How long before he decides your death is "worth it"? A family's death? A country? A planet? An entire system? He walks a slippery slope, and he's already well on his way down. He hasn't hit full blown evil yet, but he's well into the realm of corporation evil. Like Lex Luthor in the beginning, and we all know how evil he is now.
He's no more evil then G-man. He is just suspicious and is using the main character to further his own plans, though those plans are for the most part kept secret. He's looking out for the best for humanity but disregarding other species and individuals as a whole.
He's not evil, his methods are simply unorthodox.
He's not evil, his methods are simply unorthodox.
I always saw Illusive Man as being True Neutral, actually. The only thing he wants is his race, his group, on top at any cost. Within those parameters, he's quite unpredictable. When will he support you? When will he betray you? You never know. Remember: not all villains are evil. Being a villain, or an antagonist if you prefer, just means opposing the goals of the protagonist.
And while we're on that subject, Paragon doesn't mean good, and Renegade doesn't mean evil. The way I prefer to define them is as heroic and anti-heroic, respectively. No one would say that Wolverine of the X-Men is evil, but neither would anyone doubt that he's a straight-up Renegade.
And while we're on that subject, Paragon doesn't mean good, and Renegade doesn't mean evil. The way I prefer to define them is as heroic and anti-heroic, respectively. No one would say that Wolverine of the X-Men is evil, but neither would anyone doubt that he's a straight-up Renegade.
Because hes a person in great power who has very limited control over an organization that has proven that it is more than willing to sacrifice innocent people for goals of questionable scientific value, engage in clandestine military acts with malefic goals and has killed many innocent people in an effort to keep their ops secret. He has created a monster and has no remorse or goals to end at any time soon. He is also a racist and xenophobe.