what (or who) would win in a fight

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shootthebandit

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i was watching a program we have in the UK called "QI" its basically a factual, comedy quiz show which asks comedians questions but the answer isnt always what they expect

basically one of the questions was what would win: a bear or a lion, they done some research which proved the bear would certainly almost win because a lion has a fragile skull and the crushing power of a bear paw is enough to crush its skull.

they also proved that Muhammad ali would demolish bruce lee in a fight (both in thier prime obviously)

so i thought id have a little fun with the escapists, post a fight you would like to see and we will try to figure out what (or who) would win based on the facts available

disclaimer: please dont post chuck norris because its so old now and hed probably get his ass handed to him by Ali, tyson or "rampage" jackson
 

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Wait, how did they prove that Muhammed Ali would beat Bruce Lee?

OT: F-15 vs. Su-27?
 

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The thing is, they're not really 'proving' anything with that evidence. I mean, yes, a bear could crush the skull of a lion, but a lion's primary attack is to bite down on the neck in order to crush the throat, I don't think the bear could crush its skull if the lion got a good enough hold. This is why I really don't like about shows like Deadliest Warrior, they just assume that because a weapon can hit harder it's clearly better.

Anyway, Michael Ironsides vs. Edward James Olmos. Most epic boxing match ever, especially if they were allowed to egg each other on. Who doesn't want to see the voice of Sam Fisher fight Admiral Adama?
 

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I watched both those episodes, they were great.

Fight:
A (Clever) Piranha and a Blue Whale.
Or:
Three mice and a rat.
Or:
A man with a gun and a 7 Eagles that like flesh.
Or:
A Silverback gorrila and a Wooly Mammoth.

Actually, what would beat a Silverback gorilla? Answer that!
I think I read a few years back that a zoo had to get some hunters in to trap an escaped Silverback, they later found out it had escaped by ripping the bars apart. (Not sure if it was real though)

Answer them all if you dare!


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The Heik said:
Wait, how did they prove that Muhammed Ali would beat Bruce Lee?

OT: F-15 vs. Su-27?
If I remember correctly, it was because they found out how hard, accurately and how fast Muhammed Ali can punch, compared to Bruce Lee and his fighting style (Kicking, wasn't it?)

Though that doesn't really answer it.. Sorry. It was a while ago.
 

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The Heik said:
Wait, how did they prove that Muhammed Ali would beat Bruce Lee?

OT: F-15 vs. Su-27?
they said thar bruce lee's kicks were speeded up in his films, and that kicks are alot slower than punches (which come in flurrys). that combined with the pure strength of Ali

basically they said that Ali was both faster and stronger
 

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shootthebandit said:
The Heik said:
Wait, how did they prove that Muhammed Ali would beat Bruce Lee?

OT: F-15 vs. Su-27?
they said thar bruce lee's kicks were speeded up in his films, and that kicks are alot slower than punches (which come in flurrys). that combined with the pure strength of Ali

basically they said that Ali was both faster and stronger
But wasn't Bruce Lee asked not to take part in real fighting competitions because his first hit was so fast and damaging that his opponents were often knocked out?
 

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Count Igor said:
I watched both those episodes, they were great.

Fight:
1) A (Clever) Piranha and a Blue Whale.
Or:
2) Three mice and a rat.
Or:
3) A man with a gun and a 7 Eagles that like flesh.
Or:
4) A Silverback gorrila and a Wooly Mammoth.

Actually, what would beat a Silverback gorilla? Answer that!
I think I read a few years back that a zoo had to get some hunters in to trap an escaped Silverback, they later found out it had escaped by ripping the bars apart. (Not sure if it was real though)

Answer them all if you dare!
1) considering the blue whale is a large but placid animal my bet would be the piranha who would bite it to draw blood, which would then attract his pirhana buddies and within a few ours the whale will be stripped of its flesh

2) id have to go 3 mice, despite the fact that mice are about one 3rd the size of a rat. its still 3 on 1

3) eagles, the guy would have to be a very good shot to take down 7 eagles before they could attack him with their razor sharp tallons

4) mammoth, again its probably a strength thing
 

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shootthebandit said:
The Heik said:
Wait, how did they prove that Muhammed Ali would beat Bruce Lee?
they said thar bruce lee's kicks were speeded up in his films, and that kicks are alot slower than punches (which come in flurrys). that combined with the pure strength of Ali

basically they said that Ali was both faster and stronger
Yeah the slight problem with it was the fact Jeet Kune Do (Lee's Variant of Kung Fu), isn't purely kicks, its a mixed martial art, if they both followed their own rules (ie. Ali only boxing) Lee would win hands down, as there is no defence against Lee's sweeps in boxing.

Ali winning relies on him hitting Lee, which isnt hugely likely.
 

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The Heik said:
shootthebandit said:
The Heik said:
Wait, how did they prove that Muhammed Ali would beat Bruce Lee?

OT: F-15 vs. Su-27?
they said thar bruce lee's kicks were speeded up in his films, and that kicks are alot slower than punches (which come in flurrys). that combined with the pure strength of Ali

basically they said that Ali was both faster and stronger
But wasn't Bruce Lee asked not to take part in real fighting competitions because his first hit was so fast and damaging that his opponents were often knocked out?
im pretty sure Alis first hit on lee would be very damaging too
 

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Blind Sight said:
The thing is, they're not really 'proving' anything with that evidence. I mean, yes, a bear could crush the skull of a lion, but a lion's primary attack is to bite down on the neck in order to crush the throat, I don't think the bear could crush its skull if the lion got a good enough hold. This is why I really don't like about shows like Deadliest Warrior, they just assume that because a weapon can hit harder it's clearly better.

Anyway, Michael Ironsides vs. Edward James Olmos. Most epic boxing match ever, especially if they were allowed to egg each other on. Who doesn't want to see the voice of Sam Fisher fight Admiral Adama?
they didnt have to prove it it was based on evidence from american freak shows or something where they would pit a bear against a lion the bear always won since the lion couldnt get a grip on its throat
 

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Superman vs Dr manhattan

I Think Dr manhattan would win by turing everything around them into kryptonite.
 

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Mr. Self Destruct said:
Snake Plissken said:
Henry Rollins vs. Joe Rogan

*or*

Would that create cold fusion?
who is henry rollins and what did he do?

i have heard much about him
He became widely known for being the lead singer of Black Flag for a while.

Others (like me) may know him as the guy who hosted Full Metal Challenge.

But mostly the former.

OT: Chuck Norris on a whale vs Kanye West on a horse.
 

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shootthebandit said:
What an interesting variation on the old "vs" thread.
Wiiiiiiilliam said:
Superman vs Dr manhattan

I Think Dr manhattan would win by turing everything around them into kryptonite.
I think he might just vaporize Superman right away, but I hate Superman so that's biased.
Spacewolf said:
But even though that may be the case with animals, I think it may be a little different for people. What that guy was saying was that in shows like "Deadliest Warrior" it was only the more powerful weapon, when in the hands of a more skilled soldier, the weaker weapon could win %99 of the time.