What should Treyarch do to innovate in Black Ops 2

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C2Ultima

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http://www.codblackopsblog.com/what-should-treyarch-do-to-innovate-with-black-ops-2/

That link made me curious as to see some suggestions from any escapists. Personally, I'd be glad if they focused a lot more on stealth with this one.

It's a shame to see that they just seem to not really care about trying anymore, and if they put even less effort into it then MW3, it'll probably be the last Call of Duty game I plan to play.

Also, inb4 "Call of Duty? Innovate? HAHAHAHAHA!"
 

CaseClosed343

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I don't really know what they could do right now. I was thinking they could add drivable vehicles on the map but then it would just end up being a worse version of Battlefield. I think right now they should just add more ways to customize and more variety to the maps. Maybe the maps should have special things instead of just be nice to look at.
I'm thinking that maybe they could add water and the ability to swim and shoot underwater.
They could also add things like snow and ice is slippery so you slide or something when sprinting on it.
I didn't really like Black Ops that much so sorry if the ideas aren't that good.
 

Gorilla Gunk

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Come up with a better title for one. I saw one site use an image with the word Blacklist in place of Black Ops in reference to that French site that leaked the announcement. That would be a better title considering the game will probably be about (Mason, Hudson, and Weaver on the run from the CIA).

If this isn't much of an innovation but if theyrer bringing back custom emblems they should go a step further and have custom gun camos. Like pick a patter and two or three colors. Always wanted to be bale to do that in a game.

Multiplayer maps with dynamic weather could be interesting. And if they add the ability to swim like the guy above me suggested they could have maps that flooded.
 

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I'm gonna take the obvious bait and say "Single Player." Would it kill a company to release a game with a decent stand-alone story for those of us who don't enjoy the prospect of listening to some twelve year old screech profanities and racial slurs in our ears?

Now I'm not of the camp that believes that multiplayer should be cut from games, I love to sit down for an afternoon of fragging as much as the next guy, but honestly, if you're not gonna bother putting any effort into a single-player experience, then just cut it from the game and be done with it.
 

Shaunofthebread

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I dont think it'll be called black ops 2 but they need a new time period as its evantually going to go into the modern warfare times, but i don't see where they can go with it
 

Iwata

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I think they should most definitely stick with the Cold War period. There aren't that many games set in that immensely interesting time, let alone big AAA titles. If anything, they should tone down the weapons and give us a more authentic arsenal for the period. It would also be fun to see a glimpse of the Korean conflict, or the many proxy wars in Africa and South America.
 

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Forlong said:
Make it a tactical espionage game. You would think they would have already done that with a title containing the words "black ops"; but they didn't.
I think that was a common misconception: black ops doesn't mean stealth espionage, it means operations that involve a measure of deniability and are performed outside the usual military hierarchy. It doesn't mean it's stealthy. The Bay of Pigs was a black op. And it wasn't exactly stealth based.
 

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ForgottenPr0digy said:
we need more map and weapon balance for this game

and please keep the "get kill" from last stand guy if you're the one who put him in that state and someone else finishes him off because IW took that feature out of MW3

I hope we can fight in Korea,Africa or South America. Because it needs to be more than just fighting Russians again.
Well, in its defence, it IS the Cold War. If there is one period in the 20th Century that justifies fighting the Soviets, it's this one. I just wish they could move on from it in the other games set in different time periods.
 

neonsword13-ops

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Need more personal custimization in Multiplayer. Not just weapons, but body structures, clothing, etc.

I liked where Treyarch went with the emblem creator, now we just need more things like that.
 

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more customisation is always good but I dont think they will risk any real innovation its a huge mass media product and they wont risk doing anything that may harm their sales especially while its still raking in stupid money no lets be honest there wont be much innovation the safest bet is just to make it `bigger` again, keep adding stuff.

You wont see true innovation in the series until it stops selling in such huge quantities sad but true that being said I am biased I would say the last innovation in FPS came when Halo was released and it is a much more specific subgen than most to boot i.e you cant innovate much within it in comparison to most other (sub)genres unless you make it a hybrid ofc, imo (just like fighters) I think the FPS should take timeout to renew itself.
 

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Since killing Russians is in, let us play Mujahideen guerillas in Aghanistan.

Shit, if they have to be American protags, let us play CIA operatives operating in conjunction with the Mujahideen.
 

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1) No killstreaks
2) No deathstreaks
3) Add tanks, helicopters, and jets
4) Shift focus to teamwork
5) Larger teams
6) New engine
 

JoesshittyOs

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UAV definitely needs to be a higher killstreak, like Smash said. Customization is the only thing really keeping CoD alive at this point.

If all the guns feel similar, I'm fine with that. I'm so amazed at how they manage to let some of this overpowered crap get passed, it's legitimately laughable at this point.

Uh, mess with the UI a little bit? That's always nifty. Put more effort into the Bare Bones playlists. Because it's actually pretty fun when you don't have to worry about Killstreaks.

And... C'mon with the Singleplayer guys. Put a little effort into it. Mix it up a bit. Try a slower paced, yet more intense go around this time. CoD4 managed to allow you to feel like Rambo with it still being believable. It's clear after about 5 games that you can't reciprocate that. So try something new.

Keep it classy with the multi-cultural teams. Play as defecting Russians (providing they're the enemy again)

Edit: Oh, and obviously, fix the knife. Make it an animation like Battlefield and Halo did.
 

krazykidd

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Scorekeeper said:
1) No killstreaks
2) No deathstreaks
3) Add tanks, helicopters, and jets
4) Shift focus to teamwork
5) Larger teams
6) New engine
Ha i see what you did there , clever.

OT: Not call it black ops2 for one . How about an american civil war. No russians , no terrorists , just America vs America . Just an idea.
 

Pink Gregory

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Think it'd be a matter of tweaking rather than radically changing gameplay, implicating a stealth system into CoD probably wouldn't pay off (and I've not often seen stealth work in first person), but including the option for different approaches to conflict would definitely improve on the weak areas in the Black Ops campaign (ie more open areas, multiple paths).

As for multiplayer, again, sone tweaking would do a world of good, the currency system has its positives and negatives, but the contracts at least encourage switching up and around with classes/weapons.

and thirdly, I hope they leave out Zombies for this one; it was damn near perfect in World at War, started to become a little laboured in Black Ops, I can imagine it'd all be downhill from there.
 

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Personally I'd like to see a complete overhaul of the engine and gaming system. Then again I'd also like to see a world without religion so I suppose for the time being I need to adjust my expectations.

Black Ops was the first CoD with multiplayer that I really enjoyed. I never have been a fan of the IW's steep reward curve and forcing players into incredibly unbalanced matches. I thought Black Ops system of currency was brilliant and really helped to level the playing field and not leave the game so uninviting for noobs. I also enjoyed the implementation of local bot play, because it allows the player to practice and learn the maps at their own pace as opposed to being thrown into matches where everyone else knows the maps like they know their ABCs and wipe you out while you're still trying to figure out where the hell everything is.

Sadly I think the best that Treyarch can do is just improve on what was good, fix/remove what didn't work, and DON'T try to emulate the style of the Modern Warfare series.