What the hell is wrong with the world?

[Bourne Endeavor]

*shrug* when I was 20, I dated a 16 year old. Neither of us wanted anything serious, and we had a great time before parting ways. Now I'm 23, and find myself immensly interested in girls who are around the 18 mark.

Also, am I the only one who sees the irony that the OP basically boils down to "Everyone's so selfish! They should think what I think about a given situation!"?

*when* the fuck did i say that everyone should think what i think about the given situation? im asking WHY they think they way they do, i just dont quite understand it. i dont give a fuck if they think the way i do, i just want to know the logic behind why they want to ignore a persons flaws and actions because "he's a sweetie."

so fuck you, asshole

You called this guy a rapist and then went on to use strawman "brutal murderer" arguments. This is why the thread went the way it did.

But to answer your question, she is going out with this guy because she likes him. The reason she is not going out with you is because she doesn't like you... well.. not like that anyway... but I am sure you are good friends....

ok, i didnt call him a rapist. learn to read. furthermore, i even admitted in my first post that i took things out of proportion. so dont call me out on that.

also, i dont have feelings for this girl, so get off that point already. i dont have feelings for any and every girl i try to defend/help. sorry to disappoint you.

For a person you have no feelings of any degree towards, you are certainly vehement in your desire to be her preverbal knight in shining armor. Suffice to say your hostility only amplifies the notion it is you who holds jealousy against the young man, for the moment a post is levied against your misguided opinion, you commence your assault.

Nonetheless allow I to humor your claim of knighthood. I am unaware of the laws upon this subject within the United States however in Canada, should an individual fall junior to their mate by two years prior to the age of eighteen, it is cited as statutory rape; a significant difference of rape for those losing attention. Am I in agreement with her decision? It is not of my business.

Ultimately we reach a dilemma. If you are true in only desiring what you perceive is best for her, then inform her parents or the police if you rather of this escapade, who will follow necessary protocol and in doing so should she learn who had done such a thing her hatred will know no forgiveness. The question remains, is her 'qualm' in actuality your qualm?

 

[Furioso]

So your saying the world is messed up because of a mutual relationship that is not rape in any way, shape, or form? Either you have mental issues or you have a thing for this chick, no matter how much you deny it...

 

[trelloskilos]

What the Hell is wrong with the World? - A summary




Princeon: People are so fucking selfish. There's this guy I fucking hate, and his 15 year old girlfriend. I fucking hate him. Fuck fuck fuck. Why don't people agree with me? Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.

49% of the forum: A 20 year old, dating a 15 year old? That's DISGUSTING!

Another 49%: No it's not.

The first 49%: They're DATING.....ewwwww

The other 49%: That doesn't mean they're having sex, right?

The first 49%: Oh yeah....but still....ewwwwww

2% of the forum: Jeezus! This is laaame.

Chipperz: It's not him who's got the problem. It's you.

Priceon: No I fucking haven't got a fucking problem, so fuck you. Can I say fuck some more?

Chipperz: (Doesn't need to say anything at this point, cos Princeon is somewhere 20 feet below, still digging himself into a deeper hole)

Cuddly-Tomato: You compared the guy to a rapist

Princeon: Anyway...that's not what I said. I said that I blew it all out of proportion, and now people are ragging on me. I wish everyone was cynical & bitter like me.



Stay tuned for part 2.....if you can be bothered!

 

[DarkPanda XIII]

Ugh...yeah, I feel ya there brother...

I know I might go for younger chicks, but hell, I'm 26, so I have at least 8 years of pretties to choose from and.....okay that sounded creepy to myself....

BUT anyway, I don't understand that myself, what with how laws instate that the relationship shouldn't happen. If it were a hundred years it might have been acceptable, but of today.......that's screwed up, seriously.

The world really is screwed up, stupid crappy stuff.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

im sorry, i always learned in school that paragraphs seperate ideas. there was a clear space between those two paragraphs, i was hoping you would realize that they only vaguely had anything to do with each other.

but even then, i wasnt calling HIM a rapist. i was asking if a rapist's personality has anything to do with whether we forgive the rapist while he's raping someone or not. i said "sweetest" because it was already on my mind. you can change it out with any positive personality trait if you wish, i dont really care.

and no, you cant read. "also, i dont have feelings for this girl, so get off that point already. i dont have feelings for any and every girl i try to defend/help. sorry to disappoint you."

"And many of us have read your post and come to the same conclusion - you are having a jealously fueled crush." <---i just said i wasnt.

Paragraphs don't always seperate ideas do they? One can't assume that just because something is in a seperate paragraph it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Particularly when someone makes such a big deal of the age gap between the two parties, then starts talking about rape and child molestation.

Jealousy is a difficult thing to control. Especially when the object of ones affection is with someone that one knows personally, and oneself is stuck firmly in that persons "friendship zone".

If you are not jealous, why are you making such a massive deal out of it? Your opening post was the internet equivalent of foaming at the mouth. And the thread topic, "What the hell is wrong with the world", suggests a MAJOR issue you are up against. Just explain to us what the deal is, because I am still not sure.

 

[Booze Zombie]

i didnt say "illegal" i said "wrong." theres a difference

not everything thats wrong is illegal, and not everything thats illegal is wrong.

If it isn't illegal, then the problem is purely yours, as you're the one making the judgment of "right" and "wrong", which, by the way, are not universal standards.

 

[PrinceoN]

So your saying the world is messed up because of a mutual relationship that is not rape in any way, shape, or form? Either you have mental issues or you have a thing for this chick, no matter how much you deny it...

the former.

 

[MercenaryCanary]

So heres the scene. I know this 20 year old thats dating a 15 year old. I hate him.

If a rapist is the sweetest person in the world, do we let the fact that he's a rapist go? If someone brutally murders people, do we let it go just because thats how they live their life? If a someone is a known child molester, is he a good person so long as he's not molesting YOUR kids?

You know, you could at least tell us why you hate him. Has he done a few of those things that you started ranting about?

 

[Erana]

Yeah, as much as I am THOROUGHLY DISGUSTED BY SEX, I fail to see the problem.
Kids fuck.

It happens.
She's willing, he's willing, and unless you've never broken a law before, for what you thought to be good reason, it's not really your place to judge.
Yeah, it's kinda creepy.
But most things relating to sex are.

And if they aren't fucking (and you never outright stated that they did, just implied heavily,) then it's even less of your business.

Aww, you're more adorable than me on the topic of sex! How cute!

 

[esperandote]

i wish i dated a 15 year old when i could i have to settle with 18-19 years old now, if i was single

 

[PrinceoN]

i didnt say "illegal" i said "wrong." theres a difference

not everything thats wrong is illegal, and not everything thats illegal is wrong.

If it isn't illegal, then the problem is purely yours, as you're the one making the judgment of "right" and "wrong", which, by the way, are not universal standards.

i know. but what i was originally asking (which everyone seemed to ignore) is what the reasoning behind the other sides point of view is? i dont see the sense behind it.

i explained how i think, i have my own reasoning behind it (which you may message me for if you wish to know it), now i just want to know the reasoning behind everyone else.

 

[Broady Brio]

Age gap's weird, but given my track record I can't judge.

Anyway, for dating just do the aptented XKCD rule: Your age divided by 2 plus 7 is the minimum age you can date.

Someone's recently told me that rule. I don't abide by it though and decided to only date women my age. It's probaley why I haven't been sucessful yet. But enough moaning about my own misfortunes.

OT: This kind of thing is happening around us all the time, I have nothing against it but I do laugh about it when a 21 year old man is going out with/dating a 16 year old. It looks and sounds funny to me, but I don't care much as it doesn't invovle me. I wouldn't be too bothered about this.

 

[Chipperz]

This is off topic but why is it that teens seem to have such anger against any form of authority?

Wasn't there something about having a chemical makeup in their brains that is related to their changing hormones, making it hard for them to accept orders or something? I... I can't remember where I saw it, or I'd link it.

I may have dreamed it, in fact, but it sounds plausible.

HMMM I'm not sure but I sounds like you being sarcastic. and if your not then that is really interesting I might have to look into it.

HAHAHAA!! Found it! [http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/2006.11-science-the-teenage-brain/2/]

It's a summary of the overall issue, but basically, the frontal lobe of people going through puberty "inverts" and starts processing information in a different way to young children or adults, messing with their emotional responses but making them more capable of assimilating new cultural information.

EDIT - yeah, I don't really care about the original post any more, but it does seem to be a big deal about nothing.

 

[Enzeru92]

I don't really see a problem sure she maybe young but its only a 5 years difference there's people that marry with a 10+ difference and the reason most people don't say anything is cause they're already past 18 and are probably older.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Well I do agree with you that that does seem a little messed up, but unless I'm more out of touch then I thought, dating =/= sex. So as long as they're not getting to physical, legally he's not doing anything wrong.

 

[Booze Zombie]

i know. but what i was originally asking (which everyone seemed to ignore) is what the reasoning behind the other sides point of view is? i dont see the sense behind it.

i explained how i think, i have my own reasoning behind it (which you may message me for if you wish to know it), now i just want to know the reasoning behind everyone else.

My reasoning is it's alright, unless he breaks the law and since he hasn't been raped in a jail cell yet, nothing wrong has apparently happened.

There is no issue.

That's how I think.

 

[comet5002]

That's...kinda gross tbh. I only think it's ever ok for someone who's over 18 to be dating a minor when the minor is 17 (preferably close to turning 18) and both the parents are ok with it. Plus the fact that they are 5 years apart...that's like me dating 13 year old (I'm 18) which is sickening to think about. D:

But that's just me.

 

[Acidwell]

Mehness is the main problem

 

[cuddly_tomato]

EDIT (again): alright, fuckers, lets get this over with. i do NOT have a thing for this girl. just because im trying to protect/help this girl means i have a thing for her? if thats your logic, then so be it, i have a thing for this girl (according to you). however, back down here in reality, it really doesnt matter to me who it is, im against this subject no matter what. there are laws of consent for a reason, and thats what im against. it just so happens that im using the two people i know as a frame of reference.

I'm open to letting People ruin there lives. Also i think its wrong. 15 Dating 20. Maybe 17 dating 20 but not 15. 3 year diff is most. I can't even look at a girl whos over under 18 and think man i'd do her. More like I'd Do her if she were closer to my age but 5 years is to big a Diff. I've spoken to girls about the whole dating guys 5 years older and such and they say the Guys are more Mature. They also have a higher wanting for sex. I would join in with you and the Murdering him with a bat if i knew him. Cause thats wrong. I don't care if she thinks shes doing fine but thats wrong. She should get a bit of a beating and he should be put in jail.

Is there some kind of arbitrary switch in ones brain that activates when someone within 3 years of your age dates you? When someone 3 and a half years takes a fancy to you do you suddenly turn from nice guy, but a bit lonely, into a full on sexual predator worthy of a Chris Hansen suprise special?

And what if a guy does find a girl he really likes who is younger, but mature? What if they are having fun together and finding emotional support with each other? Would murdering him with a bat really improve their situation to any noticable degree?