What the hell is wrong with the world?

[DemonicVixen]

Yeah, as much as I am THOROUGHLY DISGUSTED BY SEX, I fail to see the problem.
Kids fuck.

It happens.
She's willing, he's willing, and unless you've never broken a law before, for what you thought to be good reason, it's not really your place to judge.
Yeah, it's kinda creepy.
But most things relating to sex are.

And if they aren't fucking (and you never outright stated that they did, just implied heavily,) then it's even less of your business.

yeah i agree with Max. They are both concenting, and i have known at least 5 girls in highschool 3yrs ago who were all dating guys in their 20's. Being as they were only 15/16 its quite scary but it is their life im afraid
Sorry

 

[PurpleRain]

How can people be so fucking selfish? Surely it can't be our DNA.

So heres the scene. I know this 20 year old thats dating a 15 year old. I hate him. I want to strangle him and/or brutally beat him with a bat or other blunt object. However, it seems that i am the only person on the face of that seems to think that way. Everyone else thinks that her being underage and the 5 year age difference is perfectly acceptable. Furthermore, these people are this guy's friends, because, "He's a sweetie!" (direct quote from several people) Also, he's not a bad person because, "He's never done anything wrong to me, and how he lives his life is his business." (another direct quote)

And I just think...what the FUCK has come over people lately? If a rapist is the sweetest person in the world, do we let the fact that he's a rapist go? If someone brutally murders people, do we let it go just because thats how they live their life? If a someone is a known child molester, is he a good person so long as he's not molesting YOUR kids?

I know I might have taken things out of proportion a little bit, but sometimes thats really the only way to get people to listen. Has humanity really gotten selfish enough to say "Well so long as it has nothing to do with me, its not bad." Is a criminal no longer a criminal if they don't mess with you? Are we seriously letting people's personality forgive/excuse their actions WHILE they are doing them?

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to mention, even though i sorta did reference this earlier. The 20 year old is male, the 15 year old is female.

Firstly, you're selfish. I feel there is more to this story then you are talking about. You carry on about the world being cruel and all I see is you ranting on something you are uneasy with.

Secondly, rapist?! Where did that come from. You assume a 5 year age difference means he's raping her? You ever realize that rape is a power thing and not a sex thing.

There is no crime committed here. No one is turning their back. You are being selfish because you can't see past your own hate for it. Go do something about the problems in Africa.

 

[Fraeir]

I dunno, personally the gap is too large and I wouldn't date a girl at 15 (I'm 21)
Buuut... is he a criminal? I mean, you seem to let your issues with him cloud your view : P

I know a girl at age 20 who is together with a guy who's 29 (They got together two years ago and is now engaged)
That's a 9 year gap and to both of them, it's perfectly fine : p

I realize though, you might have a problem with the "under age of consent"... buuuut, -if- they're both mature enough to take precautions and understand the consequences, what's the hassle?

Your 20 year old female friend is now a woman. She is no girl. That is the difference. And if anyone thinks they are mature enough for a serious relationship at 15 they are deluding themselves seriously. And obviously if a 20 year old male is dating a 15 year old girl he is no where near real maturity. No mature man would date a 15 year old girl. He would date a women his own age(or near it).

True enough xD
(My friend also got a mum who is a shrink on the relationship topic, so she's well versed on do's and don't's XD)

Personally, I have an infatuation for a girl who's currently 18, which doesn't seem to bad to me : P If she wants me that is xD (I'm 21 : p)

 

[lord canti]

So let me ask you tis back when I was when in school I knew a 16 year old (and yes I did have a crush on her) who was currently going out with a guy who was 35. Was that perfectly ok because they like each other and she was mentally mature?

 

[CloakedOne]

people are awful, selfish creatures. it's just the way we are.

 

[Trivun]

How can people be so fucking selfish? Surely it can't be our DNA.

So heres the scene. I know this 20 year old thats dating a 15 year old. I hate him. I want to strangle him and/or brutally beat him with a bat or other blunt object. However, it seems that i am the only person on the face of that seems to think that way. Everyone else thinks that her being underage and the 5 year age difference is perfectly acceptable. Furthermore, these people are this guy's friends, because, "He's a sweetie!" (direct quote from several people) Also, he's not a bad person because, "He's never done anything wrong to me, and how he lives his life is his business." (another direct quote)

And I just think...what the FUCK has come over people lately? If a rapist is the sweetest person in the world, do we let the fact that he's a rapist go? If someone brutally murders people, do we let it go just because thats how they live their life? If a someone is a known child molester, is he a good person so long as he's not molesting YOUR kids?

I know I might have taken things out of proportion a little bit, but sometimes thats really the only way to get people to listen. Has humanity really gotten selfish enough to say "Well so long as it has nothing to do with me, its not bad." Is a criminal no longer a criminal if they don't mess with you? Are we seriously letting people's personality forgive/excuse their actions WHILE they are doing them?

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to mention, even though i sorta did reference this earlier. The 20 year old is male, the 15 year old is female.

You never mentioned sex. Therefore there's nothing wrong with it.

My parents have an age gap. My mother is 44, I think, and my dad is 48. There's a four year age gap there. How is this any different to a five year age gap between these two people? If they aren't having sex then there is nothing wrong with it. If they are having sex then there's a problem, but from the way you've phrased your opening post it seems that there is in fact no reason for you to hate them since nobody has done anything wrong. Hence your hatred is completely irrational. I say good luck to the couple and I hope they enjoy a long lasting, mutually enjoyable and happy relationship.

 

[Zildjin81]

It's pretty clear that he stole your girlfriend or something. You seem to have a kind of biased tone.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

So let me ask you tis back when I was when in school I knew a 16 year old (and yes I did have a crush on her) who was currently going out with a guy who was 35. Was that perfectly ok because they like each other and she was mentally mature?

If that is UK then yes. That is absolutely fine.

 

[Amnestic]

See here's what gets me. Why is the fact that the guy is a few years older than her suddenly a big deal. A penis is a penis is a cigar penis.

We will agree to disagree. Let's see if you think the same way when and if you become a parent.

That's what I meant by the Parent Card. God it annoys me when parents seem to think that they have some God given knowledge simply because they managed to have a kid.

Im not saying that I'm making fun of the people who say as long as they like each its ok. So by their logic if a 12 year old likes a 20 then it will be perfectly fine to go out with them and yes their are alot of mentally mature 12 year olds out there.

You seem to have done some research into this. I remain skeptical.

So let me ask you tis back when I was when in school I knew a 16 year old (and yes I did have a crush on her) who was currently going out with a guy who was 35. Was that perfectly ok because they like each other and she was mentally mature?

Age of sexual consent in Britain is 16. So...yes, actually.

 

[PrinceoN]

*shrug* when I was 20, I dated a 16 year old. Neither of us wanted anything serious, and we had a great time before parting ways. Now I'm 23, and find myself immensly interested in girls who are around the 18 mark.

Also, am I the only one who sees the irony that the OP basically boils down to "Everyone's so selfish! They should think what I think about a given situation!"?

*when* the fuck did i say that everyone should think what i think about the given situation? im asking WHY they think they way they do, i just dont quite understand it. i dont give a fuck if they think the way i do, i just want to know the logic behind why they want to ignore a persons flaws and actions because "he's a sweetie."

so fuck you, asshole

 

[lord canti]

and a couple hundred years ago it was ok to own another human being and treat them like animals so that must mean it fine to do that now huh?

Yeah thats great. Block out the majority of the post and focus one the one tiny little thing you think you can actually argue against. We really need a better class of posters on this forum again.
Now to answer your question.
Yes. Yes I do. Currently people commit crimes and we just lock them up. We should bring back slavery detail. They commit a crime so instead of just wasting the tax payers money for X years their asses should be put to work.

Your one to talk about a better class of posters yes I agree with you that we need to do something with criminals other than locking them up, but really putting them to work so they can go and do whatever they want to again yeah that a great idea.

 

[lord canti]

See here's what gets me. Why is the fact that the guy is a few years older than her suddenly a big deal. A penis is a penis is a cigar penis.

We will agree to disagree. Let's see if you think the same way when and if you become a parent.

That's what I meant by the Parent Card. God it annoys me when parents seem to think that they have some God given knowledge simply because they managed to have a kid.

Im not saying that I'm making fun of the people who say as long as they like each its ok. So by their logic if a 12 year old likes a 20 then it will be perfectly fine to go out with them and yes their are alot of mentally mature 12 year olds out there.

You seem to have done some research into this. I remain skeptical.

So let me ask you tis back when I was when in school I knew a 16 year old (and yes I did have a crush on her) who was currently going out with a guy who was 35. Was that perfectly ok because they like each other and she was mentally mature?

Age of sexual consent in Britain is 16. So...yes, actually.

Ok I don't live in Britain so that answer is completely voided. Just because one part of the world does something doesnt mean its right for everyone else to do this.

 

[Internet Kraken]

*shrug* when I was 20, I dated a 16 year old. Neither of us wanted anything serious, and we had a great time before parting ways. Now I'm 23, and find myself immensly interested in girls who are around the 18 mark.

Also, am I the only one who sees the irony that the OP basically boils down to "Everyone's so selfish! They should think what I think about a given situation!"?

why the fuck did i say that everyone should think what i think about the given situation? im asking WHY they think they way they do, i just dont quite understand it. i dont give a fuck if they think the way i do, i just want to know the logic behind why they want to ignore a persons flaws and actions because "he's a sweetie."

so fuck you, asshole

Maybe they say he is a sweetie because he does not have many personal flaws? It sounds like you are the only one that hates this guy.

No offense.

 

[axia777]

Personally, I have an infatuation for a girl who's currently 18, which doesn't seem to bad to me : P If she wants me that is xD (I'm 21 : p)

18 and 21 is awesome. Good luck on that my man.

See here's what gets me. Why is the fact that the guy is a few years older than her suddenly a big deal. A penis is a penis is a cigar penis.

We will agree to disagree. Let's see if you think the same way when and if you become a parent.

That's what I meant by the Parent Card. God it annoys me when parents seem to think that they have some God given knowledge simply because they managed to have a kid.

God given? WTF does God have to do with any of this? Like I said, I wonder if you will feel the same when and if you have a kid. Being 33 also helps in the life experience end of things as well. But like I said, we can agree to seriously disagree. Just be glad you are not my teenager.

 

[PurpleRain]

people are awful, selfish creatures. it's just the way we are.

I've never really found this to be at all true.

 

[MoganFreeman]

How can people be so fucking selfish? Surely it can't be our DNA.

Probably is, yeah.

Dating doesn't necessarily imply fucking. Their relationship is only ILLEGAL if they are. But is it IMMORAL? That is debatable.

But I have the inkling that one reason this has got you so hot and bothered is that there is someone else that you'd rather see that nubile young fifteen year old shacking up with. Which, if that is the case, is pretty fucking selfish.

But what can you do? One thing I've found is that it's usually the self-professed "nice guys" who are the most selfish.

EDIT:

They're probably getting goo-gooed over because everyone assumes its a sexless relationship, which is pretty cute.

Eh, but the possibility is there at least. None of us here have enough data to go on.

Granted, we're discussing this on the Internet, which is hilarious because let me tell you half the people on the forums of any Internet board seem to be closet sexual deviants. Don't expect the ratio of views expressed on this forum to be all that reflective of real life.

I am a fully open sexual deviant and, if anything, I feel that the internet gives us more of an excuse to be far more honest than real life.

 

[TheRailrider]

If they're happy and both consenting then I see no problem with it. The cops might say otherwise, but laws like that should just be ignored. Can't say I haven't been in a similar situation as you before though. Hurts man.

 

[lord canti]

See here's what gets me. Why is the fact that the guy is a few years older than her suddenly a big deal. A penis is a penis is a cigar penis.

We will agree to disagree. Let's see if you think the same way when and if you become a parent.

That's what I meant by the Parent Card. God it annoys me when parents seem to think that they have some God given knowledge simply because they managed to have a kid.

Im not saying that I'm making fun of the people who say as long as they like each its ok. So by their logic if a 12 year old likes a 20 then it will be perfectly fine to go out with them and yes their are alot of mentally mature 12 year olds out there.

You seem to have done some research into this. I remain skeptical.

So let me ask you tis back when I was when in school I knew a 16 year old (and yes I did have a crush on her) who was currently going out with a guy who was 35. Was that perfectly ok because they like each other and she was mentally mature?

Age of sexual consent in Britain is 16. So...yes, actually.

Ok I don't live in Britain so that answer is completely voided. Just because one part of the world does something doesnt mean its right for everyone else to do this.

About the research it's just observation.
Young kids especially young girls now adays have so much more access to knowledge and resources they are becoming remarkably mature faster than previous generations. Thats just the way humans work the new generation will always mature faster than the previous generations.

 

[Chipperz]

*shrug* when I was 20, I dated a 16 year old. Neither of us wanted anything serious, and we had a great time before parting ways. Now I'm 23, and find myself immensly interested in girls who are around the 18 mark.

Also, am I the only one who sees the irony that the OP basically boils down to "Everyone's so selfish! They should think what I think about a given situation!"?

*when* the fuck did i say that everyone should think what i think about the given situation? im asking WHY they think they way they do, i just dont quite understand it. i dont give a fuck if they think the way i do, i just want to know the logic behind why they want to ignore a persons flaws and actions because "he's a sweetie."

so fuck you, asshole

OK, let's put this another way.

This guy is a "sweetie", everyone else likes him, he's happy with a girl a few years his junior in a world where every teenage girl ends up dating guys in their late teens/early twenties and you certainly would have pointed out if she had been forced into this relationship. The only person in your story who isn't happy for them is you, and by your logic, that makes everyone else selfish.

Yes. I'm the arsehole...