What to do if SOPA hits.

[Wereraccoon]

Only one thing to do here. Time for IP blocking. The USA wants to mess with the world because we break 'their rules' even if we don't break the rules of our own country, very well. Then how about just every foreign website IP blocks American IPs. I know it's a lot of work. But they may only use the power of SOPA on websites that are or partly meant for US citizens.
Also I know it means there will still be a lot of good websites disappearing, and that's sad. But it will probably only take three weeks before either non American counterparts will reappear of the really popular websites... Or the original creators must maybe consider immigrating.

And I know there will be Americans upset with this statement... But I'm sorry it's your government, it sucks, but the rest of the world shouldn't get punished for it as well. Besides happened often enough that I tried to access an American website and I got a pop-up that I wasn't allowed onto it in my region or country.

Honestly I feel bad for Americans, but I'm fed up with the USA trying to play police over the world. It's time for a global boycott. And I know this won't fix everything.. But if it happens actions must be taken.

 

[dave1004]

I'm Canadian, so at least I'll have Canadian websites. I'll just migrate to the Deep Web, I already participate in a pretty good forums there. Sure, it's small, but if SOPA does pass, a lot of idiotic kids are going to be flooding the Deep Web, and that will ruin the whole thing.

Works for me, anyways.

 

[JesterRaiin]

Well, "let them taste their own poison" by exploiting loopholes they created, seems most obvious way to say "thank you" to people supporting SOPA.

...just sayin'.

 

[shadowstriker86]

Well for us U.S. citizens who are getting the 14 in. shaft if sopa hits is to info/video/porn hoard as much as possible before any effect can take place, info through internet may be blocked but that wont prevent old fashioned hardware delivery from person to person

 

[Doclector]

We start the...erm...Sopacloaks, and rebel against the evil empire. True, thousands of angered nerds wearing blue curtains, weilding foam swords, and screaming "fu ro dah" at a load of bewildered rubber bullet happy police officers may not be that effective, but it might send a message, or at the very least, be a very interesting afternoon.

 

[Esotera]

It's not IP-blocking, just DNS blocking. Basically if you tried to get to www.google.com and it was blocked, you couldn't do anything, but you could type in their IP (8.8.8.8) and it'd get you right there.

I sort of agree with this, as every big company is just going to jump straight out of Silicon valley to Europe/other supportive countries...more business is never a bad thing.

 

[Wereraccoon]

It's not IP-blocking, just DNS blocking. Basically if you tried to get to www.google.com and it was blocked, you couldn't do anything, but you could type in their IP (8.8.8.8) and it'd get you right there.

I sort of agree with this, as every big company is just going to jump straight out of Silicon valley to Europe/other supportive countries...more business is never a bad thing.

Oh my bad. I'm actually that well known with coding. Alright. We'll DNS block them then.

Well yeah. You probably already heard about the British kid which America is trying to arrest for having a website that's completely legal in the UK. I mean WHAT THE FUCK?! Who the hell do they think they are?!

 

[Esotera]

It's not IP-blocking, just DNS blocking. Basically if you tried to get to www.google.com and it was blocked, you couldn't do anything, but you could type in their IP (8.8.8.8) and it'd get you right there.

I sort of agree with this, as every big company is just going to jump straight out of Silicon valley to Europe/other supportive countries...more business is never a bad thing.

Oh my bad. I'm actually that well known with coding. Alright. We'll DNS block them then.

Well yeah. You probably already heard about the British kid which America is trying to arrest for having a website that's completely legal in the UK. I mean WHAT THE FUCK?! Who the hell do they think they are?!

Oh no, we could still IP-block them. It's just that SOPA blocks the website address, not the actual IP, so it's pretty pointless. There are firefox extensions already that circumvent this like Mafiaafire, and there's probably one for Chrome.

What British kid? America are certainly the world's internet police...the whole Pirate Bay debacle is sort of proof of that.

 

[Wereraccoon]

It's not IP-blocking, just DNS blocking. Basically if you tried to get to www.google.com and it was blocked, you couldn't do anything, but you could type in their IP (8.8.8.8) and it'd get you right there.

I sort of agree with this, as every big company is just going to jump straight out of Silicon valley to Europe/other supportive countries...more business is never a bad thing.

Oh my bad. I'm actually that well known with coding. Alright. We'll DNS block them then.

Well yeah. You probably already heard about the British kid which America is trying to arrest for having a website that's completely legal in the UK. I mean WHAT THE FUCK?! Who the hell do they think they are?!

Oh no, we could still IP-block them. It's just that SOPA blocks the website address, not the actual IP, so it's pretty pointless. There are firefox extensions already that circumvent this like Mafiaafire, and there's probably one for Chrome.

What British kid? America are certainly the world's internet police...the whole Pirate Bay debacle is sort of proof of that.

Yeah but SOPA states that they are allowed to block any website that is meant for US citizens. So if you make a point of blocking them out they will not be allowed to take down the website since it is not MEANT for US citizens.

http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/uk-student-faces-extradition-to-us-over-file-sharing-site-967760#ixzz1Pexl4KS9. It's a british student that had a website that gave links to OTHER sites that offered download links. So he didn't even stream it himself. But now the USA is demanding he'll be arrested and handed over to them for punishment. Yes. Seriously.

Ok so some crummy laws caused this but still they should not be able to demand to trial him over something that is legal in his own country.

 

[Esotera]

Oh no, we could still IP-block them. It's just that SOPA blocks the website address, not the actual IP, so it's pretty pointless. There are firefox extensions already that circumvent this like Mafiaafire, and there's probably one for Chrome.

What British kid? America are certainly the world's internet police...the whole Pirate Bay debacle is sort of proof of that.

Yeah but SOPA states that they are allowed to block any website that is meant for US citizens. So if you make a point of blocking them out they will not be allowed to take down the website since it is not MEANT for US citizens.

Oh google it. It's a british student that had a website that gave links to OTHER sites that streamed shows. So he didn't even stream it himself. But now the USA is demanding he'll be arrested and handed over to them for punishment. Yes. Seriously.

Yep, but SOPA can only affect American computers. China use a similar censoring system, so you can't see certain websites in China, but you can see them in Europe. It wouldn't be a bad idea if the major companies got on board with it, but I doubt they would.

I think I read about that one on torrentfreak. It's amazing how they manage to successfully prosecute these sort of cases.

 

[Rastien]

Oh google it. It's a british student that had a website that gave links to OTHER sites that streamed shows. So he didn't even stream it himself. But now the USA is demanding he'll be arrested and handed over to them for punishment. Yes. Seriously.

Havn't heard of that one being a brit but it sounds similar to the case of the autsitic british kid who hacked into american military security systems looking for aliens. Not sure how that panned out but they were trying to extradite him to the states...

Also firefox extentions/add ons, i presume these work by typing in the website and automatically do a whois on the domain used getting the nameserver ips and redirects you as needed? if thats the case it makes the entire sopa thing pointless.

So is sopa just placing a DNS block on websites it deems needs it or are they physically taking down the hosting. Im aware the sopa law is pretty vague all round but just curious

 

[Aurgelmir]

I am not sure where SOPAs jurisdiction lies. As it is an american law it can only affect american hosted sites, and or block said sites from being viewed in the US.

If it can only touch american sites then I see no reason why sites will just move over to Canada.

And I am Norwegian so if they can't stop me from going ot sites outside their jurisdiction there will be no issues for me

 

[Rastien]

So is sopa just placing a DNS block on websites it deems needs it or are they physically taking down the hosting. Im aware the sopa law is pretty vague all round but just curious

I imagine it would have to be a DNS block since the vast majority of the offending websites would not be hosted in the US. Any US website that breaks their current laws gets taken down already though so it will depend entirely on which country its based in.

Not that im offering out suggestions here but this seems like such a half assed way to do this anyone with abit of common sense will just use proxys or specify non US dns servers on their routers x)

 

[Hateren47]

I, technically, didn't even notice when Pirate Bay was blocked at DNS level here in .dk since my computer already pointed to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 for DNS because Googles DNS was noticeably faster than my ISP's.After Pirate Bay was blocked I kept using it simply on principle and maybe a little out of spite.

If this is ends up being on DNS level I suggest you just do the same. Maybe not Google's DNS but maybe one setup in Canada or what ever works fastest for you.

 

[Rastien]

I, technically, didn't even notice when Pirate Bay was blocked at DNS level here in .dk since my computer already pointed to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 for DNS because Googles DNS was noticeably faster than my ISP's.After Pirate Bay was blocked I kept using it simply on principle and maybe a little out of spite.

If this is ends up being on DNS level I suggest you just do the same. Maybe not Google's DNS but maybe one setup in Canada or what ever works fastest for you.

There are loads of free DNS servers to use and plenty of guides on to to sort it out, but from what a previous guy said its looking like addons/mods for browsers have already been rolled out to counter act these issues

 

[Pandaman1911]

A situation like that? Only one thing TO do- give up. "It's just the Internet", they'll say. "Stop being such a nerd and get a life", they'll say. "Maybe you'll finally get some time outside", and so on. It's pretty damn hard to seem respectable and sincere when you're bitching about how you can't watch/download what you want on the Internet.

 

[Wolfram23]

I'm going to start sending out emails about copyright infringement on all kinds of sites and see what I can get taken down.

Just kidding... but it would be kind of fun to try and bring down fox news or something.

 

[Hateren47]

I, technically, didn't even notice when Pirate Bay was blocked at DNS level here in .dk since my computer already pointed to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 for DNS because Googles DNS was noticeably faster than my ISP's.After Pirate Bay was blocked I kept using it simply on principle and maybe a little out of spite.

If this is ends up being on DNS level I suggest you just do the same. Maybe not Google's DNS but maybe one setup in Canada or what ever works fastest for you.

There are loads of free DNS servers to use and plenty of guides on to to sort it out, but from what a previous guy said its looking like addons/mods for browsers have already been rolled out to counter act these issues

Very true, I just figure it works more effective if you did it in your OS LAN settings or in your modems config menu instead of it only working in your browser.

 

[Sarah Kerrigan]

Basically, the internet is probably going to die, seeing as Websites like 4chan and Youtube are going to be banned.

But still, there is a slim chance its going to pass, so I am being on the safe side here for now. I'll take up arms once this thing get's close to passing (heaven forbid)