What to do if SOPA hits.

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targren

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I don't think TC understands what SOPA will do. Blocking US IPs might be a political statement, but it won't have any affect on whether your site is vulnerable to a SOPA attack.

The core of SOPA is the fact that the root nameservers for the .com and .net top-level domains (TLDs) are under the control of Verisign, which is an American company subject to American law. Which means when you register a domain in .com or .net, you're at risk. (Possibly .org, too, I can't remember who runs the root for that these days). It's not a block. There's not going to be any "Great firewall of the USA" like China has. What they're planning to do is seize the domain itself, so that "TheBuccaneerCove.com" no longer points to a torrent search site, but to a big nastygram reminding everyone who goes there that they are all USGov's bitches.

If you're outside the US, you've got to do two things:

1. Make sure your domains are in your own country's TLD (just about every country has one) instead of .com, .net, etc...

2. Pray to whatever god you might worship that your own government has the balls to stand up to USGov and not implement the same sort of mess. (I wouldn't count on it)
 

thahat

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PontiusTM said:
As I understand, SOPA will affect every website which provides content which is under American copyright - as seen in the UK kid example. They want to controll the internet. This is SO not legal, because their jurisduction then has a major effect on the rights, freedom (of utterance) and - yeah - copyrights of basically THE ENTIRE WORLD. One could simply sue them on UN court... but who will? I'm no lawyer. The greatest problem is that everyone is bitching about SOPA and noone considers doing anything else than "Duh. I'll use VPN clients. A derpity derpity herpa derp derp."

Americans can react BEFORE this thing is passed by taking action in RL, but I don't see any outcry further than posting angry videos on a page that will pretty soon be closed. Until this thing is passed Europe's hands are practically tied. But I see it coming: We have to sort the mess out after it happened.

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Sorry if this sounded a bit harsh.
i think i understand sopa differently from you. as far as they know, its just american isp's that stop the dns from aquiring the site for you.. if you live in america. but you can still dodge it DOS style by pinging the site, getting its ip, and then putting the ip in your browser
there are even plugins that do this atomatically for you in a milionth of a second XD
 

n00beffect

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SOPA will change nothing for the Deep Web. On the contrary - it might even encourage more people to become a part of it. The only ones who'll be affected by this bill will be legitimate sites, which, as sad as it is, is not enough to bring down an entire digital nation. We'll have them back, and everything will go back to the way it was; and this pathetic excuse of a bill will fail, just like the pacemakers of these old, stagnant congressmen, who know absolutely nothing of the new world, and the coming age.
 

MPerce

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I'm sure someone already said this, but SOPA won't block non-American Internet users. It will just block US users from visiting certain sites. The problem with that is the screening process involved in blocking just US users will probably create massive Internet traffic jams.
That's one of the ways it may "break the internet."
 

Something Amyss

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Wereraccoon said:
But they may only use the power of SOPA on websites that are or partly meant for US citizens.
And the only thing they can do to websites outside the US is blacklist them. In essence, you've just made their enforcement all the easier and the transition to a SOPA internet smooth and even a little bit practical.

In short, your response to a bill that "breaks the internet" is to break it FOR THEM.
 

PontiusTM

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thahat said:
i think i understand sopa differently from you. as far as they know, its just american isp's that stop the dns from aquiring the site for you.. if you live in america. but you can still dodge it DOS style by pinging the site, getting its ip, and then putting the ip in your browser
there are even plugins that do this atomatically for you in a milionth of a second XD
Okay. I see your point, the latest news I heard was "Man, they're taking teh pages down from teh interwebs". That obviously was wrong ^^.

Certainly, blocking 'things' on the web for specific countries is a thing that happens right now (I'm German - Ever heard of GEMA?) which is not good, but when the law is meant for the singularity of USA only I don't see a way of sueing the goverment internationally (which is obvious). It's unjust aswell and I will sign any petition and do the things in my might to stop it, but it makes the case quite harder to solve. (Petitions & Actions against GEMA are old as GEMA itself... god... they're charging kindergardens and schools for singing copyrighted christmas songs in primary classes).
 

Something Amyss

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Rednog said:
Seriously, have you taken anymore than a cursory glance at the SOPA bill or even have a basic knowledge of trade agreements that run internationally?
I think the answer is clearly "no."

PontiusTM said:
as seen in the UK kid example.
If anything, the UK kid example demonstrates that they don't need SOPA to go after foreign sites.

But realistically, that example has nothing to do with SOPA or its effects one way or the other. Yes, it's bad. Yes, it's dumb. SOPA doesn't change either of those factors in any way, neither helping or hindering them.

Is SOPA good? No. Does it help to argue against things it doesn't do or argue such things already happening as instances of what it COULD do? Also no.
 

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Th3Ch33s3Cak3 said:
Keep calm and carry on.
If it passes, then it was passed for a good reason.
I-I'm not sure sir....he's either brainwashed....or some kind of....Troll creature...
 

ShindoL Shill

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dave1004 said:
I'm Canadian, so at least I'll have Canadian websites. I'll just migrate to the Deep Web, I already participate in a pretty good forums there. Sure, it's small, but if SOPA does pass, a lot of idiotic kids are going to be flooding the Deep Web, and that will ruin the whole thing.

Works for me, anyways.
the deep web? what in the big blue fuck is that?
is it like wales?
 

thahat

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PontiusTM said:
thahat said:
i think i understand sopa differently from you. as far as they know, its just american isp's that stop the dns from aquiring the site for you.. if you live in america. but you can still dodge it DOS style by pinging the site, getting its ip, and then putting the ip in your browser
there are even plugins that do this atomatically for you in a milionth of a second XD
Okay. I see your point, the latest news I heard was "Man, they're taking teh pages down from teh interwebs". That obviously was wrong ^^.

Certainly, blocking 'things' on the web for specific countries is a thing that happens right now (I'm German - Ever heard of GEMA?) which is not good, but when the law is meant for the singularity of USA only I don't see a way of sueing the goverment internationally (which is obvious). It's unjust aswell and I will sign any petition and do the things in my might to stop it, but it makes the case quite harder to solve. (Petitions & Actions against GEMA are old as GEMA itself... god... they're charging kindergardens and schools for singing copyrighted christmas songs in primary classes).
nice little thing to know: they CANT take sites down. EVER. unless the servers are in the USA and they physically burn the server house down XD. ( remove the plug, cut the power, you know the drill )
if they did they people would just put their servers in the philipines, on offshore custom islands etc. (europa, asia, posibly australia if they put some propper cables down to there XD ) all they can do is force that guys that tell your computer where it has to go, not to tell you. XD its a bit like asking a passerby in s strange town where the shops are. he wont tell you, the next guy will. so screw the first guy :3
 

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Th3Ch33s3Cak3 said:
Keep calm and carry on.
If it passes, then it was passed for a good reason.
Ah, spoken like a true member of The Party!

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
 

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shadowstriker86 said:
Well for us U.S. citizens who are getting the 14 in. shaft if sopa hits is to info/video/porn hoard as much as possible before any effect can take place, info through internet may be blocked but that wont prevent old fashioned hardware delivery from person to person
...waaay ahead of ya! *pets 3 terabyte harddrive lovingly*

Anyways! I'm Canadian soo I can use Canadian sites to~ fuck, I can't say that with a straight face... there aren't any good Canadian sites!!!

...I'd cope with it eventually I guess... Not much else we can do if it's half as bad as we all think it's gonna be...
 

Sarah Kerrigan

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thahat said:
Sarah Kerrigan said:
Basically, the internet is probably going to die, seeing as Websites like 4chan and Youtube are going to be banned.

But still, there is a slim chance its going to pass, so I am being on the safe side here for now. I'll take up arms once this thing get's close to passing (heaven forbid)
you know the 4chan guys will have dodged it in like .2'th of a second right XD?
Didn't even think of that...point taken XD
 

Canadish

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Th3Ch33s3Cak3 said:
Canadish said:
Th3Ch33s3Cak3 said:
Keep calm and carry on.
If it passes, then it was passed for a good reason.
I-I'm not sure sir....he's either brainwashed....or some kind of....Troll creature...
To be honest, I'm probably both.

However, I heard that there is a major hole in the SOPA plan(something about still being able to access a blocked website if you have the IP address). If it is flawed, I would not support it, but if it's passed, I won't speak out against it.
No offense intended friend, but I implore you to think of your founding fathers (I am assuming your speaking as an American?) for a moment.
I'm from the UK here, but I've got nothing but he highest respect for what America originally stood for. It would be a shame for a citizen to just give up an not care about that dream.
And if not for a bunch of dead old guys, please think of your fellow country men. You've got a respectability to defend your civil liberties, because they don't just belong to you, but everyone. And it'll take everyone to save them.

But it's wider than that, because this effects us non-Americans as well. And all the kids growing up today and all the as of yet unborn.

I'm starting to think there is no greater evil then Apathy these days. Your a human being and I'm willing to bet your probably a nice person on the whole. You're worth it. And so are your neighbors. Please stand for one another.
 

Magnicon

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Sit back and enjoy the show. If SOPA passes and starts messing with stuff the internet is going to go ape shit. This will result in it being completely reversed. The lulz that will happen before then will be amazing however, and the entertainment industries will likely be in a lot of financial trouble when more people start to actually boycott their crap when they realize how much power the corporations have over their day to day enjoyment.
 

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id like to say that americans would come together and stand up for their rights...id like to say that. but sadly, the vast majority of americans are lazy and complacent sheep "sopa is evil but...standing up for my rights is hard, so i think ill just let the government do whatever they want"
 

Smooth Operator

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Backup DNS servers, there really is no other way since America still controls the entire global domain system, and that might actually be the day they lose that control.
 

Tentickles

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Some people say ?If you can?t beat them, join them?.
I say ?If you can?t beat them, beat them?, because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
 

Lunar Templar

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if it passes? watch the world burn basically.

I'll enjoy hearing how these company's in support of SOPA now start losing money hand over fist cause they killed the best marketing and distribution option they had