What Utter Bullshit

[No_Remainders]

All well and good but why should the Irish teams have to participate.This should have been confined to England,Wales and Scotland

It's specifically stated that the Irish don't have to but that it would be a fantastic goodwill gesture if they did.

Actually, it's stated the Irish teams don't have to wear the Union Jack

However, every Heineken Cup and Magner's League match this weekend has half proceeds going to the Royal Wedding Fund.

 

[jboking]

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While this is still up, I feel like asking, "What does the royal family do, exaclty?"

 

[No_Remainders]

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While this is still up, I feel like asking, "What does the royal family do, exaclty?"

I'm Irish, so I'm not entirely aware... They're figureheads, as far as I know though. Basically the queen goes to countries and her husband (Philip) is there to say inappropriate things.

that will have been decided by the higher ups in charge of the leagues and isn't anything to do with England as a country.

Shrug. It wouldn't be happening if the British didn't make such a big scene about EVERYTHING they do.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Ok, so, I know many of the Escapist population aren't really into sport (and most that are mainly follow NFL), but one has to agree, this is complete crap.

Seriously, utter bullshit. [http://www.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/story/138937.html]

Basically, half of the proceeds from this weekend's Irish and UK rugby matches are being donated to a "Royal Wedding Fund", teams are EXPECTED to wear Union Jack Embroidery (though the French are exempt, Irish teams are basically saying "You don't have to... But you should"), and there's also the fact that any player who gets banned for a foul committed in any game this weekend will have a harsher punishment than normal.

... I'm sorry, but that is just completely ridiculous. Ok, there's a royal wedding, most people really don't seem to give a crap. I don't care if the "Royal Wedding Fund" is giving money to smaller charities, the clubs shouldn't have half of their funds from ticket sales given away.

You mean they need more money for the royal wedding other than the 20 million pounds of tax payer money?

 

[MetalDooley]

I don't know, are you having her over? It seems like it'll be a bit crowded in your house what with all the retainers and all.

Hey, if you just want to object to the monarchy on general reasons that's fine but no Irish teams had to do this. maybe they wanted to? or maybe they felt that the goodwill would be useful?

Or maybe they felt pressured into participating due to the aforementioned state visit?

Personally I have no objections to the monarchy.I just don't see why Irish people should be contributing to this

 

[artanis_neravar]

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While this is still up, I feel like asking, "What does the royal family do, exaclty?"

I'm Irish, so I'm not entirely aware... They're figureheads, as far as I know though. Basically the queen goes to countries and her husband (Philip) is there to say inappropriate things.

that will have been decided by the higher ups in charge of the leagues and isn't anything to do with England as a country.

Shrug. It wouldn't be happening if the British didn't make such a big scene about EVERYTHING they do.

80% of the British people don't give a shit about the wedding

 

[No_Remainders]

You mean they need more money for the royal wedding other than the 20 million pounds of tax payer money?

I do believe the fund is for charities (or street parties, nobody's really sure, apparently).

But yeah, it begs the question as to why the Royal Family aren't just giving money to said charities (or organising said street parties... We're still really not sure).

 

[BoredDragon]

to me it looked like an internal decision by the organizations themselves, so I don't see why you're so pissed about it.

 

[D33dl3]

calling bullshit on this story .... seen no mention of it anywhere else

 

[Palindromemordnilap_v1legacy]

Hey, they're more important than you common folk. Didn't you get the memo? I guess whatever taxes you're paying for the Royal Family aren't enough for their extravagant life styles.

Are you aware that the Royal Wedding fund isnt actually paying for the royal wedding? It is a charity fund. You think the royals need help paying for their weddings?

Yes, but I don't see why the royals can't give money and leave everyone else's cash alone.

It's stupid.

...why? Prices aren't being upped, the Fund is being supported by money they already had from ticket sales and advertising. They got your cash fair and square when you traded it in for a ticket, its up to them what they do with it next. This isn't like the expenses scandal where they're helping themselves to money they have no real right to

The Union Jack thing is kind of over the top though

 

[EllEzDee]

Because the clubs aren't already rich as fuck, with enough money to purchase South America.

And the Royal family (or whatever the fuck they are called) isn't? Only reason I don't see that as being bad is because they are giving it to charity.

The Royal Family's rich? They recieve a few million a year, but that's to pay for civil duties such as appearing in other Commonwealth nations etc.
The Royal Collection, such as the Crown Jewels, don't actually belong to the Royals.

Either way, why even bring it up when you clearly said the money goes to charity.

 

[darksakul]

I want to point out one thing. How many people in this thread is actually live in the UK or even Europe for than matter and how many are you are American idiots who jumping on the "Lets-Piss-and-Moan bandwagon"?

"But public tax money going towards this thing"
Honestly if you do not pay taxes in the UK this argument should not apply to you.
So If your not a UK Citizen, Shut up.

"So your supporting this thing"?
Lets see, a head of state and a Monarch having her grandson and heir to the throne getting married. Yes I know its not an Absolute Monarchy, but not a Law get pass with out the Queens Signature (Like the US President signs bills into law in the US) and any issue Parliament talks about the Queen has the right to but in hear everything and put her 2 cents in. If that do not sound like a Head-of-State I do not know what is. So in that respect alone they have a right to do what they want with this wedding including Blocking Street Traffic, using public resources, which includes police enforcement of the area. Also deciding how they going to muddle with any local sports teams. So in Short, yes I am supporting this, hell if I am the one running this there would be 10 times the complains on this thread today.

Keep in mind I not going to invest the time to check every person who post here's profile to see if they are from the UK or some where else. I also think its sad that Canada of all countries have more respect for the Queen than Most of England does (minus Quebec because they are decidedly more French).

 

[Bags159]

Ok, there's a royal wedding, most people really don't seem to give a crap.

Ok, problem with that is, a vast majority of people do give a crap. The only reason it might appear the opposite on the internet is because people like to appear 'cool' on the internet, and to most people, the easiest way of doing that is to hate the things that other people like, or to hate the things that everyone on the internet hates.

I'd have to agree with you on this one. Its just the like the people who say "I don't vote, whats the point?" and then moan after an election that nothing changes.

How are these anywhere near comparable? Me not giving a crap about this wedding is not the same as me not voting and then moaning afterward. It's not like me watching the wedding changes anything, while voting can change if enough people vote who otherwise wouldn't.

I honestly don't know anyone in real life who was psyched about the wedding. I'm sure a lot of people are, but to say most are is probably incorrect. Hell, my British Earth Science teacher doesn't care.

 

[wooty]

Ok, there's a royal wedding, most people really don't seem to give a crap.

Ok, problem with that is, a vast majority of people do give a crap. The only reason it might appear the opposite on the internet is because people like to appear 'cool' on the internet, and to most people, the easiest way of doing that is to hate the things that other people like, or to hate the things that everyone on the internet hates.

I'd have to agree with you on this one. Its just the like the people who say "I don't vote, whats the point?" and then moan after an election that nothing changes.

How are these anywhere near comparable? Me not giving a crap about this wedding is not the same as me not voting and then moaning afterward. It's not like me watching the wedding changes anything, while voting can change if enough people vote who otherwise wouldn't.

I'm not attacking your view on the event, but I guess the angle,(which it looks like I missed out in the post, my bad) was in agreement with the above poster in that some people just say they dont care about certain major things in order to look "cool". I was only using the vote as an example, as I know a lot of people who do say that "voting is for losers" and then have a huge rant because nothing changes.

I'm afraid it was just a poorly laid out statement

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

Ok, there's a royal wedding, most people really don't seem to give a crap.

Ok, problem with that is, a vast majority of people do give a crap. The only reason it might appear the opposite on the internet is because people like to appear 'cool' on the internet, and to most people, the easiest way of doing that is to hate the things that other people like, or to hate the things that everyone on the internet hates.

So what you're suggesting is that everyone on the internet is either lying, or they simply don't have an opinion and are just spouting off the same rhetoric that their peers (who are lying) are espousing?

How... remarkably condescending. Accurate sometimes to be certain, but to assert that all those people who don't give a crap about things that are actually NOT IMPORTANT are, in essence, hipsters, is a rather insulting position to take.

Some of us just don't care about "popular" things because we think those things are stupid (further reinforced by the masses caring about it really, since the aggregate intelligence of a group of humans tends to go down rather sharply when its size approaches "vast teeming masses" levels), or otherwise unimportant and not relevant to our lives, with no ulterior motives behind our apathy.