but it is true schools in the UK do not teach childen history, because they need to get good result for the league table.
What were you taught in school about your country's history
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In 8th grade my teacher was supposed to teach us about American History, but most of the time we ended up getting off subject and learning about cooler stuff like Rome and Macedon before Philip and Alexander. Much cooler than some America is awesome crap.
They tried to teach me that Christopher Columbus was amazing for discovering America and that there was a huge feast between the pilgrims and indians.
They will never convince me until they teach anything justifiable and unbiased.
Dammit, I can't wait to get out of high school.
They will never convince me until they teach anything justifiable and unbiased.
Dammit, I can't wait to get out of high school.
It went from basic history in elementary (States and capitals), to World cultures in 6th, then Texas history in 7th, then general US history in 8th.
I don't know about all of you who are saying yall's teachers thought America was great, but my teachers in high school tried to ingrain in us that all the US had ever done was rape and pillage other people out of their money and land. Actual course progression went from World Geography (maps and cultures), to World History which covered cavemen to present, to US History, to Government and Economics senior year.
All in all, I think the history at my school has been pretty sucky, though. They always seem to focus more on facts and trivia than what things were actually like back then.
I don't know about all of you who are saying yall's teachers thought America was great, but my teachers in high school tried to ingrain in us that all the US had ever done was rape and pillage other people out of their money and land. Actual course progression went from World Geography (maps and cultures), to World History which covered cavemen to present, to US History, to Government and Economics senior year.
All in all, I think the history at my school has been pretty sucky, though. They always seem to focus more on facts and trivia than what things were actually like back then.
Hah! Indeed.keyper159 said:Dude everyone knows the Norse and "discovered" North America.TaborMallory said:
FOR THE NORSE!!!
Columbus thought he was in Asia. More specifically, he thought he was in India, so that's what he labeled the natives when he first saw them. This is why the term Indian no longer specifically describes someone from India.
Dammit, Columbus! Why did you have to exist?
In the US it seems it depends heavily on the political bent of who is teaching you. Our "history" has become a mess of guilt and political correctness.
Basically through High School they mostly teach you things properly, in a fairly objective fashion (it happened, this is who was on each side, this is who won). Once you get to college it turns into polically correct rant on how evil and oppressive we all are, any moral progress has been sparked by someone else, and how we should all pretty much do the world a favor through mass suicide. Not in those words mind you, but that is typically the tone. When you start being presented with information that is intended to lead you to the "correct" answer on a test that Castro was a great guy... well... hopefully you know there are problems.
This isn't actually much of an exagerration based on how my schooling went.
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Basically through High School they mostly teach you things properly, in a fairly objective fashion (it happened, this is who was on each side, this is who won). Once you get to college it turns into polically correct rant on how evil and oppressive we all are, any moral progress has been sparked by someone else, and how we should all pretty much do the world a favor through mass suicide. Not in those words mind you, but that is typically the tone. When you start being presented with information that is intended to lead you to the "correct" answer on a test that Castro was a great guy... well... hopefully you know there are problems.
This isn't actually much of an exagerration based on how my schooling went.
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Agreed. I'm surprised how many Americans are saying that their history classes taught them how great and free America is, when in my classes (at least in high school) it's the complete opposite. Most of our textbooks are basically "this aspect of America was great, at least was the old thinking. Modern historians now believe this aspect was actually evil and corrupt and America is the devil." While American history is certainly no glorious path of happiness and rainbows, the amount of self-bashing is rather worrying.Therumancer said:In the US it seems it depends heavily on the political bent of who is teaching you. Our "history" has become a mess of guilt and political correctness.
Basically through High School they mostly teach you things properly, in a fairly objective fashion (it happened, this is who was on each side, this is who won). Once you get to college it turns into polically correct rant on how evil and oppressive we all are, any moral progress has been sparked by someone else, and how we should all pretty much do the world a favor through mass suicide. Not in those words mind you, but that is typically the tone. When you start being presented with information that is intended to lead you to the "correct" answer on a test that Castro was a great guy... well... hopefully you know there are problems.
This isn't actually much of an exagerration based on how my schooling went.
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What those two guys said. The Irish education system seems to have a fascination with the Iirhs history. Sure, it is intresting, but a good bit of it just says "we got out asses kicked, we fought back, we got our asses handed to us" repeat that a few times, and thats the baisic jist untill the 1900's.Pandalisk said:
Thats when we got our independence and oh god I'm giving you all a history lesson now, I apologise
Ah yes, as the great Tommy Tiernan said, the Irish want to invade the world as much as any other country, but we're sneaky about it. We dont send in people, with guns and foreign accents, oh no!Pandalisk said:
Only 2 Irish people go into a country, with nothing but a phone book, and a sleeping bag. We walk up the the tallest guy in the village and say "Oh no, don't mind us! Sure we're only Irish! We're great craic!"
And then we walk of into a small cottage, and then two weeks later....47 Of us walks out!!