i must be one of those weird guys who likes his girlfriend just the way she is, and I am happy i have her
I see your point, and I agree with it. I would speculate though that the reason that it's generally accepted as being deserved is because being fat is something that one chooses to be (again baring medically sound reason), where as no one gets to choose there ethnicity, gender or sexuality. They are just who you are. let me qualify that statement by saying that it's not like one day you wake up and decide that 'today I will become fat' but rather when you realise that you no longer fit properly into your jeans you then have the choice to do something about it by shedding a few pounds or just go out and buy some bigger jeans. The less enlightened of the public (whom are sadly the majority it seems) will see the latter option as taking the easier way out and thus causing them to regard the fat person as 'weaker' creating a stereotype for all fat people.Kuroji said:x EvilErmine x said:While that guy is obviously a dick, he's sort of right. Look the amount of fat people out there who are fat because of a physiological or genetic reason is tiny as a percentage of the total. It is fair to say that the majority of them are fat because they do not burn as many calories as they consume. That's not to say that they they ate all the cake but rather they may live on a diet of healthy well balanced food but it'll still get you fat if you don't burn the calories off.
I don't condone picking on fat people at all but I don't think they should get any special treatment either.While I would dispute it being a tiny percentage (I'd say depression and other mental health issues make up a suprisingly large chunk - but that's based on personal observation), I understand.
I was not saying that they should get any kind of special treatment though, just that they get alot of crap thrown at them purely for their weight. If it were based on gender or race it'd be a big deal but when it's weight (and only on the bigger side of the scale at that) it's just accepted as being deserved. That's what bothers me.
All this typing and I still can't say it clearly. I apologise if this is an incoherant mess.
More OT though: I'd imagine alot of it is a cultural issue, as has been mentioned. Like historically, larger women were more desirable (still is in some places), of the Chinese binding feet. The latter case is both a little disturbing yet fascinating. Beyond that, there are people that like all kinds of women. Take a look through a lonely hearts column sometime. Some of that stuff is *wierd*, but there'll be a man/woman out there to fit it.
Horribly unstable feelings that may cause them to gain or lose 20 pounds on a whim.MetalMagpie said:Keep in mind that the people you just described as "really fucking gross" are human beings with feelings. Just a thought.Torrasque said:But the girls in your video are not slim, they are borderline skeletal, which is really fucking gross in my mind.
Absolutely, that's why I took care to point out that there is nothing wrong with being skinny. As long as you eat healthily and get all the nutrients you need then being skinny is wonderful.Dastardly said:Some people look like that without starving themselves, just like some people look "chubby" without cramming their faces full of cake. The way someone looks does not provide you an entirely accurate picture of their health. Assumptions made about skinny people are just as wrong as those made about fat people.Nobby said:Anorexia is a horrible mental condition and thinspiration aggravates and enhances the negative effects.
There's no problem with being skinny, but there is a problem with starving yourself till you're so malnourished you get confused for a xylophone.
The thin ones are easier to chuck over your shoulder, throw on your horse, and ride out of town with.DaMullet said:So can someone please explain to me why this is attractive?
Have you tried eating soy? (Obviously with a small increase in the fats in your diet, and some women I know swear by a certain weight training exercise, as that will actually increase muscle size and fat stores in that area.) Long story short, and something no male vegan would be proud to tell you, is that soy, either soy beans or tofu, increases the amount of estrogen in your body. There are other foods that contain pseudo-estrogens (like the regular kind, but it doesn't come from humans,) and if you want to know more, breast cancer sites have entire lists of them, as they are important things to avoid for any with estrogen-receptive cancer.Missile.x said:I get so sick of this whole "skinny people need to man-up and eat something. They look horrible!" thing. What a lot of people don't seem to understand is that if I weren't skinny, I'd have to put up with snarky comments about my body shape. You see, I know for a fact that at the age of 17, with my petite body shape, if I put on weight, I wouldn't get this "curvy" body shape people go on about. I'd simply be fat . . . with small breasts (In fact, I use the term "breasts" very loosely here ;D) and I'd lose my slim waist-line. To the majority, I'd be considered a lot less attractive and my esteem would be even lower than it already is.
K, now I'm done ranting about that, I'm gonna repeat the point that beauty is in the eye of the beholder etc. ya-da-ya-da-ya-da. All body shapes are bound to be attractive to someone I'm sure, but personally, while wishing to stay "skinny", I'm in no way saying that being under-weight in terms of weight-to-height ratio is okay. Sounds insanely clichéd, but women are under a lot of pressure from the media to be thin. Funnily enough, I actually feel slightly victimised when I watch television and everyone's going on about how skinny is ugly and everyone should be "curvy". Sadly, for some of us, that's not an option.