What's so great about skinny women?

[00slash00]

i find super skinny girls very unattractive and even normally skinny girls arent that attractive to me. i like girls with curves and a little bit of weight on them. ill take a fat girl over a skinny girl

 

[Strazdas]

whats so great about fat women? neither of the extremes are great, but we need variety to appeal to all tastes. for me, its not the looks that matter.

 

[Titan Buttons]

There is nothing wrong with being thin, there is with having a mental/eating disorder that makes you want to be a twig

 

[Brisingr]

I believe Mr Prima can that answer that for you...

 

[Continuity]

to be attractive to me a woman needs to have fat, i'm not saying she needs to be obese but she does need to have hips and breasts... not bony stick arms and a visible ribcage.

 

[Spambot 3000]

Fuck, you got a lot of replies.
All I got to say is something somebody else has probably already said. So yeah.
etc.

 

[Something Amyss]

because we're a society of extremes?

and since obesity is unattractive, therefor the complete opposite must be incredibly attractive.

A happy medium would be nice

Used to be that being plump was considered desirable because it meant you were affluent. In our modern society, with McDonalds and KFC, it's easy to be fat, and it's something poor people can easily do (Eating nutritious when you're poor is really hard), but being rail thin? It often takes designer drugs and a near-suicidal drive.

I think you're right on society of extremes, but I think it's important to look at why "obesity is unattractive."

 

[Vault101]

thats the the...theres nothing "great" about skinny skinny chicks like that, excpet that the fashion industry seems to think so

now "normal" and "healthy" thats the good thing and THIS is the mian point..it doesn thave to be "obease" and "anorexic" its the in between.

being fat and obease isnt good..honestly its not that complicated

 

[haku1219]

>.> I thought it was about personality that was judge someone, skinny or fat.... or is that just me?

 

[Continuity]

I think you're right on society of extremes, but I think it's important to look at why "obesity is unattractive."

I think obesity (the lack of) is an analogue for success and health. We all know obesity is unhealthy and we are hard coded to find unhealthy things unattractive (evolution has shaped us to want healthy partners for healthy children). Success is also linked with thinness because the people who have the drive to look after themselves usually also have the drive to do well in a career, plus eating healthily and going to a gym etc are actually quite expensive.

On top of that we have all of this being magnified and reinforced by flim, tv, and adverts.

 

[Entropyutd]

I never have understood why society likes the starved look, personally. It doesn't make me want to do them, if anything it makes me want to buy them a burger and plonk them down in front of GTA.

Who said society does like the starved look?
Body image is just one of many things the media push onto us as the "correct" choice, along with what music, movies, games etc to like.
Look out in the real world though, and you don't see too many starved looking girls, especially if you are an American.

If men really wanted starved look women, we'd all be trying to date women from some third world African shithole. (well at least until they got used to the Western lifestyle and got fat)

 

[Joccaren]

Eh, most of the girls in that Vid I didn't mind too much, they weren't the worst I've seen. Thin for me is attractive, I like the flat stomach and I just find fat repulsive, however there is a difference between fat and healthy weight. Healthy weight people are almost as attractive to me as thin people, but I can't stand either extreme; Where you have large outward curves due to fat, or your stomach starts to curve inwards due to not eating, and you can see some of their bones about 2-5 cm out from their stomach...

 

[BlueMage]

You can ... no wait, they give good ... hmm, nope.

Fuck.

They're not a phoney buck. There we go.

 

[Soxafloppin]

wow OPs avatar is very appropriate.

Personally I'm really attracted to "Athletic" girls, Slim and Toned, but not bony.

But that's just my preference, I don't mind girls carrying a bit of weight but I never find my self attracted to Overweight or Under weight girls.

 

[Missile.x]

I get so sick of this whole "skinny people need to man-up and eat something. They look horrible!" thing. What a lot of people don't seem to understand is that if I weren't skinny, I'd have to put up with snarky comments about my body shape. You see, I know for a fact that at the age of 17, with my petite body shape, if I put on weight, I wouldn't get this "curvy" body shape people go on about. I'd simply be fat . . . with small breasts (In fact, I use the term "breasts" very loosely here ;D) and I'd lose my slim waist-line. To the majority, I'd be considered a lot less attractive and my esteem would be even lower than it already is.

At the age of 17, you'd have to eat the contents of a semi truck to gain enough weight for your waist line to grow like you're proposing. Teenagers have a much higher metabolism and need more calories to pack on the pounds like that. Especially in women, who (if I recall my health classes correctly) start this process sooner than guys do, and tend to maintain it a bit longer.

So rather than claiming that you just KNOW you'll get fat if you dare to eat like a healthy person, why not just try eating like a healthy person before you dismiss the idea and seeing what happens?

Why do you care what the media tells you is attractive or not anyways? Anyone willing to dismiss a person based solely on their weight is not the sort of person you want to be around anyways. Sounds to me like your priorities are off-base.

You seem to have misunderstood; thing is, when i say skinny, I don't mean stick thin; I mean small, but proportionately so. I get a little annoyed when everyone's going on about not looking thin because curves are so much better. I don't want to put on loads of weight, so i don't. But no, I don't believe that I'd look more attractive if I did.

You're probably right about the weight-gaining thing, but I don't actually want to gain weight. I like my body the way it is. Also, I've noticed that whenever I put on weight, it goes to my stomach and thighs and not to the nice places I'd rather it went.

Finally, I'd like to point out that I never actually said I'M under pressure from the media and so I do whatever it tells me to do. I was merely saying many women are. They want to look skinny to fit in with the latest fashions. But yes, it is a no-brainer that if someone just likes you for the way you look then why would you want to spend time with them.

 

[Missile.x]

I get so sick of this whole "skinny people need to man-up and eat something. They look horrible!" thing. What a lot of people don't seem to understand is that if I weren't skinny, I'd have to put up with snarky comments about my body shape. You see, I know for a fact that at the age of 17, with my petite body shape, if I put on weight, I wouldn't get this "curvy" body shape people go on about. I'd simply be fat . . . with small breasts (In fact, I use the term "breasts" very loosely here ;D) and I'd lose my slim waist-line. To the majority, I'd be considered a lot less attractive and my esteem would be even lower than it already is.

K, now I'm done ranting about that, I'm gonna repeat the point that beauty is in the eye of the beholder etc. ya-da-ya-da-ya-da. All body shapes are bound to be attractive to someone I'm sure, but personally, while wishing to stay "skinny", I'm in no way saying that being under-weight in terms of weight-to-height ratio is okay. Sounds insanely clichéd, but women are under a lot of pressure from the media to be thin. Funnily enough, I actually feel slightly victimised when I watch television and everyone's going on about how skinny is ugly and everyone should be "curvy". Sadly, for some of us, that's not an option.

Have you tried eating soy? (Obviously with a small increase in the fats in your diet, and some women I know swear by a certain weight training exercise, as that will actually increase muscle size and fat stores in that area.) Long story short, and something no male vegan would be proud to tell you, is that soy, either soy beans or tofu, increases the amount of estrogen in your body. There are other foods that contain pseudo-estrogens (like the regular kind, but it doesn't come from humans,) and if you want to know more, breast cancer sites have entire lists of them, as they are important things to avoid for any with estrogen-receptive cancer.

Oh, I'm vegetarian so practically live of soy products; tofu and meat substitutes. I also eat a lot of Quorn products. Thanks for the suggestion though. :') Guess the main reason i don't put on weight is i have a fast metabolism and walk a lot.

 

[DaMullet]

No it doesn't need answering. Are you saying that I'm to blame (+ people who think the same way) for people dying and falling into ruts depression due to my preference for skinny women? What the fuck, are you being absolutely serious right now?

Perhaps I came off too harsh. Mostly likely from my frustration over the whole issue and me wondering how people passed kindergarten.

"What does red and yellow make?"
"MY FAVORITE COLOUR IS BLUE!!!"

And actually, I can and did answer why I like fat women;

See here.

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In No particular order of importance.

1: Rarity/Status: Like it or not if left with no social discouragement otherwise men will more naturally though not always gravitate to a position where they view women as sexual objects. Part of mens subconscious line of thinking is that a woman is a life defining challenge that must be acquired and secured. With such men put an unusually heavy emphasis on the type of woman the pursue because the woman they get acts as a reflection on them.

So you will find that they will proactively seek a woman who represents uncommon quality. These skinny girls much as has been expressed by people complaining about unfair body image types, are not "realistic depictions of what a woman actually looks like" They hold that uncommon quality, in that they have a physical body that is harder to come by. In short men want what they perceive to be special and different. The ideology of "Why would I want her if anyone else could have her." comes into play. Something to make her special and unique setting her apart from the crowd. So to anyone who sees a girl with a guy one of the first things they will be able to determine about the girl without even speaking to them is her body weight, which instantly conveys the image of "Look, I caught a good one!" to anyone who sees the two of them together.

2: Physicality

Invariably body shape and size comes into play. Some people will just naturally fit together better than others do. I know I speak from first hand experience that being over 6`5 with a fairly low center of gravity that physically it is harder on me in sexual situations to be with a girl in missionary position for example. The reason is, I will end up either having to curl her up like a ball or end up essentially doing a split to get the best angle possible when with a skinny girl with no ass. However my body type is not normal. However with the perfected average 5`11 male body weighing in at the ideal 140-160lb range physically a smaller, skinnier girl would fit a little better.

3a: Inferiority complex

One of the more shallow as well as illogical sentiments I have ever heard against heavier girls is rooted in male insecurities. Just like how women have the whole "bad body image" thing, it is well known men tend to think their penis size is insufficient. So some men will subconsciously think that "every inch fatter she is, the smaller(length) my dick is going to feel to her". It is illogical because even though the optimal depth is only 2-3 inches, men have a tendency to think they need to be deep enough to be "screwing her uterus."

3b: Superiority complex

Much as said before men place disproportionate focus on the size of their junk. Its also true that sexually most men are both visual as well as auditory. Arousal stems predominantly from seeing sex, as well as the sounds of sex. (Conversely this is also why Porn tends to resonate more with men than women who tend to hold sex on emotional and tactile levels) So even if it is an incorrect assessment, there is a rationale of proportional body size. I have heard in the past "A bigger girl is automatically going to be more loose" The line of thinking here is that if a woman is taller or wider, then it will somehow make the vaginal canal slightly wider. So by that flawed line of reasoning, A wide girl is wider, a thin girl must be thinner. The desire for a narrow set vagina is obviously for tactile sensation, but it is also centered around the females physical response. Men typically want to "hear" her reaction. The moans and sounds she will make in response to his touch. So coupled with the irrational fear of an inferior penis size, it makes sense that her smaller size will somehow equate into his smaller size not being as impactful.

4: Women bring it on themselves

Women are killing themselves and falling into ruts of depression over this.

Despite what you may think about men, it is really not men (as an entire gender) who try to proliferate the negatively reinforced body image that women experience. It centers around advertising and marketing more than a reflection of male desires. It has long been documented and studied that women respond more to advertising than males. This is why advertising and marketing that we see, hear, read, etc is 80% or more geared toward women. With that said it is also well documented that fear and inferiority make for very effective marketing strategies. So yes you will see ad execs intentionally push negative reinforcement and perpetuate inferiority complexes because they want to project that "THEY" are selling the "cure". "You too can be beautiful... Just buy this!" So this is an area that the blame is not for men as a gender (perhaps specific male ad execs) and it is not even an issue of feminine insecurity or lack of self confidence as much as it is that as far as it comes to advertising, women on average more susceptible to advertising. Whats worse is that not all women are that susceptible, but the marketers know that the ones who are, will invariably act as a carrier and infect those who are not through social interaction.

5: Dominion

This has a tendency to fall under gender defined roles. Its an almost natural state (though obviously not a rule) for in heterosexual relationships for the male to be sexually dominant and the female to be more submissive. Its not really clear if that centers more around mens desire to feel in control, or if it falls to various other factors.

Typically men are physically stronger than women (Again, not a rule) So inherently there is a degree of dominion already bestowed. However the larger the gap in physical strength between the male and female, the larger the sensation of dominion grows. So when a male is with a female closer to his own size and strength that sense of dominion becomes greatly diminished because its harder to dominate someone your own size. So to an effect some men will favor someone who projects a sense of being weaker and more delicate.

Physically during sexual engagement it is also much harder to hold the entire body weight of a girl weighing 170lbs than one weighing 120lbs. Thus it requires a greater expense of energy and stamina to do so. Thus it can create a sexually limiting factor to those who play rough and take the roleplay of dominion further than the average will.

6: Virility and fertility

It boils down to genetic precursors that create subconscious desires for sex to be productive and thus reproductive. It has been said that Women favor experience and ability, men favor youth and fertility. Both work in conjunction to create the ideal conditions for the possibility of procreation.

Humans invariably increase in body size as they age until they plateau and begin to wither into old age. So from a physical perspective a thinner girl will project an sense of youth and fertility than an older woman will be able to.

As a side note on this matter, It was suggested that the root of this is a naturally latent desire in men towards Hebephilia and ephebophilia, and pursuing a mate who is smaller allows one to create the illusion of someone who is under age. I disagree with the assertion, because it implies a criminal intent, whereas conceptually the age really has no impact on the decision when compared to the prospective fertility, and the latent desire to produce healthy offspring. Chronophilia has its own set of terms and conditions for its presence and there is little or nothing that suggest a correlation of factors linking the two.

7: Health

While tied into fertility, body weight has impacts on an individuals health and stamina. While not impossible (as the prior poster referenced ), it is rare that you see sumo wrestlers running marathons. It stands to reason that someone who weighs more will expend more stamina to accomplish the same physical intensive task as someone who is lighter. So if less energy is expended, the perception may be that it will allow for longer sexual sessions and include more of her physical exertion in the act. There does seem to be a resistance to women who "Just lay there and look pretty"

8: Status and perception

There are portions of this that fall under the way people present themselves and the way they are perceived. If you compare two similar females one being slightly under weight and one being slightly overweight, based on a glance that impression might suggest that the smaller girl either holds greater status on her own (such as money to support better diet and health care maint such as exercise equipment). as well as a suggestion of someone who has their life together and is able to maintain a regulated existence that balances a diet and takes the time for exercise, while balancing the other parts of their life. That can be an alluring factor for some people.

Oddly, it can also represent the exact opposite, but still remain viewed to be a positive factor. If a girl is underweight to the point that it suggests that she might be impoverished it might also suggest that she would be easier to approach because she might be open to someone who could offer her opportunity to take care of her better than what she currently experiences.

This is by no means a comprehensive list, but it gives a much stronger framework to understand some of the justifications, however flawed they may be, that commonly some people employ. In short you are not going to get a single Epiphany level answer as because with humans we have a wide variety of motivations for any actions we make with many times there being great overlap in reasonings for different justifications. I hope this gives you a better understanding to the question than the 4 pages of posts I read before I posted gave. If I hadn't found the prior answers insufficient, I would not have wasted an hour writing what turned out to be longer and more detailed than my last five collegiate essays.

First off, thank you very much for taking the time to write that. You gave me a lot of things to think about and I have noticed quite a bit. So let's see if what you said has any evidence to back it up.

(I don't have any stats or anything, so this will be from personal experiences)

1: Rarity/Status:
I agree on my part. Personally I wanted to find a fat woman who was proud to be one and always dressed nicely; no pjs or sweats going out. Its actually REALLY hard to find, but I found one and I'm so happy to be seen with her.

However, that still leaves me puzzled. It seems a well dressed skinny woman is almost a dime a dozen (no offence intended). I drive down a party street with lots of clubs on a Saturday night and I see them walking around in packs. And they all look and dress the same way. This actually might work in benefit for skinny women though, because the only way to stick out is your personality which is a good thing. You probably want guys to fall in love with you, and not your body right?


2: Physicality

I agree. It seems to work both ways. I don't a woman that I might accidentally crush, so I can see how a guy also doesn't want a woman that could crush him. So, I can respect that.

3a: Inferiority complex & 3b: Superiority complex

That makes sense, any object cast against a larger background will look smaller.
But that made something click.
Its known that a lot of black guys like bigger women, and black guys tend to be bigger down there (so I've heard). So that would mesh perfectly with this.


4: Women bring it on themselves

Seeing how like 95% of responses here are against skinny-skinny women, I'll have to agree!

5: Dominion

I'm wondering if my time as a high school football lineman has affected this part of me? (That's foot ball, not soccer) I was facing off against guys that were bigger and taller then I was and still being able to hold my own. I'm naturally really strong and can move large furniture easily by myself.
So even if a woman was a big and tall as I was, she still would not be physically intimidating to me. And I'm pretty big to begin with so its rare to find a woman that comes anywhere near me. My woman is 45lbs lighter and 8" shorter then I am.

6: Virility and fertility

I agree with what you said, but I think that comes down to a matter of perspective and I don't think its the full story.

There was a study done on identical twins where one was heavier than the other. When asked a control group what their age was, it turns out that the heavier one looked much younger. I'm not sure why this is, perhaps because fat seems to smooth out wrinkles or having a chubbier face is reminiscent of a chubby baby's face.

Now with the choosing of a good mother; yes, skinny women might look younger, but if by your perception they look underfed that could send off some subconscious red flags. Like if she can't get enough food for herself, how is she going to get enough food for a baby? A well fed woman has more then enough so food for the child will not be a problem. So from a long term survival point of view, the bigger the better.

This is fascinating! *gleams*

7: Health

Again, this might come down to perception. From my personal experiences weight doesn't seem to have any hindrance on performance. I've heard plenty stories where the woman would just lay there and they were skinny, and grew up with the rumour then that fat girls try harder even though no reason was given as to why.

Spoiler: This might be 18+ so dont click here but Ill try to keep it safe

I once watched a special that gave the hypothesis where certain behaviours could give clues to how she is in the bedroom. For example, a woman who constantly has gum, or is playing with her hair in her mouth is more likely to use her mouth in the bedroom. I didn't make this study so don't blame me!

But with that in mind, a woman who enjoys food might be very eager and adept at using her mouth for other things besides eating. hinthintwinkwinknudgenudge say no more

8: Status and perception

While what you said is true. The opposite could be just as true.

When I see a well dressed fat woman, I see the following
- Finding plus size clothing that looks good is hard and expensive. Which would mean that she has the time and the finances to fill out a rare and costly wardrobe.
- Having spent all that money on clothes, she probably isn't in the process of loosing weight any time soon which suggests she's confident with who she is right now. Meaning I most likely won't be dealing with a woman who hates herself which is a massive turn off to me.
- This also means that she's going against what the media says. This means that she's an independent thinker and strong willed. Both of which are very admirable qualities.

This also ties into point #1 and #4. She's rare and doesn't seem self-destructive.


You know at first glance you and I have made it seem that guys that like skinny women are easily intimidated weaklings with a small* penis. Or at least have one or more of those issues. *They're probably not small, but have some sort of complex that make them think that.

but that can't be right!

I think that there is deeper need for purpose that a lot of guys can get from a skinny woman. A need to protect something, I need to provide for someone or a family, you know that sense of purpose and drive in life.

I think MovieBob actually pointed this out, without any world wars to fight, animals to fend off, and all the necessities handed over (compared to prehistoric times, medieval times, great depression, etc) and with women becoming more independent, other then being a sperm donor, guys have lost purpose.


So here's my hypothesis;
Guys like skinny women because it gives them a sense of strength and purpose either consciously or subconsciously or both.

Thoughts?

 

[PH3NOmenon]

You know... thank you for the responses but... no one has actually answered the question of why.

Because the question doesn't need answering. You do not have credible criticism on this matter and neither do I have any on your preferred answer, whatever that may be. I just feel attracted to slim (not necessarily skinny) women, that's just the way it is. I don't know why and I don't care why.

Yeah it kinda does need answering. Women are killing themselves and falling into ruts of depression over this.

And you have absolutly zero answer for me?

Why are things like thick teighs and maybe a small belly unattractive then?

This just in, a woman just died because she didn't have a pot-belly. Also, the surgeon general is now advising all women to run around with huge thighs because if they don't, they die.

Lets get a couple of things straight here: Most people who prefer slim women do not like them to be anorexic. Someone who likes curvy women doesn't necessarily think a 400 pound woman is attractive either, so don't pretend that thought pattern applies in the reverse situation.


Now, if you're genuinely wondering about why slim could be perceived as more attractive to males, as opposed to sturdy-built, here's one explanation: Skinny girls look more fragile. They look like they need protecting. The person doing the protecting feels powerful, valued, needed and well... masculine.

Note that I'm not saying this is the only reason or even if this is necessarily true for everyone who likes petite women. I'm merely giving a possible reason, since you seemed to imply you couldn't think of any at all.

 

[DaMullet]

You know... thank you for the responses but... no one has actually answered the question of why.

Because the question doesn't need answering. You do not have credible criticism on this matter and neither do I have any on your preferred answer, whatever that may be. I just feel attracted to slim (not necessarily skinny) women, that's just the way it is. I don't know why and I don't care why.

Yeah it kinda does need answering. Women are killing themselves and falling into ruts of depression over this.

And you have absolutly zero answer for me?

Why are things like thick teighs and maybe a small belly unattractive then?

This just in, a woman just died because she didn't have a pot-belly. Also, the surgeon general is now advising all women to run around with huge thighs because if they don't, they die.

Lets get a couple of things straight here: Most people who prefer slim women do not like them to be anorexic. Someone who likes curvy women doesn't necessarily think a 400 pound woman is attractive either, so don't pretend that thought pattern applies in the reverse situation.


Now, if you're genuinely wondering about why slim could be perceived as more attractive to males, as opposed to sturdy-built, here's one explanation: Skinny girls look more fragile. They look like they need protecting. The person doing the protecting feels powerful, valued, needed and well... masculine.

Note that I'm not saying this is the only reason or even if this is necessarily true for everyone who likes petite women. I'm merely giving a possible reason, since you seemed to imply you couldn't think of any at all.

See my post above yours. I think the reason why I couldn't come up with an answer like that is because of my perception on life. Being 6' tall, 305lbs, naturally really strong, and covered in fur and facial hair. No woman is a "threat" to my masculinity. So a small petite woman does not lift me up anymore then a 300lbs one does. But now that I'm trying to step into other people's shoes more, I'm beginning to understand the attraction.