What's the worst gun?

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Wadders

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Supposedly the XM8 was pretty shit, I still cant figure out why the Battlefield Bad Company games have a raging hard-on for it and its family.
 

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the M-16. considered the worst assault rifle in the world. any sort of melee with it would shatter the spring-loaded stock and the overly complex firing mechanism was a ***** to clean and jammed alot. the only reason it became the standard american infantry rifle was politics, "buy my gun and you get my vote". it was originally designed for MPs at stateside military bases
 

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

sure its the most bad ass gun ever made but it had the problem of the shooter maybe getting a face full of radioactive dust
 

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I'm not sure about absolute worst gun of all time, but the Desert Eagle is very much up there in terms in of impracticality and is ridiculously over-rated by the type of people that learned everything they know about guns from Modern Warfare 2.

 

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brodie21 said:
the M-16. considered the worst assault rifle in the world. any sort of melee with it would shatter the spring-loaded stock and the overly complex firing mechanism was a ***** to clean and jammed alot. the only reason it became the standard american infantry rifle was politics, "buy my gun and you get my vote". it was originally designed for MPs at stateside military bases
It's since been fixed though. Several times. Pretty sure that the M16 A4 (the most recent version) has most of the creses ironed out.
 

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brodie21 said:
the M-16. considered the worst assault rifle in the world. any sort of melee with it would shatter the spring-loaded stock and the overly complex firing mechanism was a ***** to clean and jammed alot. the only reason it became the standard american infantry rifle was politics, "buy my gun and you get my vote". it was originally designed for MPs at stateside military bases
There is a saying in the armed forces of many countries. "Always remember that your gun was made by the lowest bidder!"

I can speak from personal experience and say that the SA-80 the average British Army soldier gets (as well as other-ground based units of the Navy and RAF) is a pile of wank. I've fired one a few times and can see why it was called the "Airfix Rifle". When I was at a weekend camp at Proteus in Ollerton (it's now closed and until recently was a fucking sweet airsoft skirmish site) with the ATC I recall seeing a sign by the discharge pit. It spoke of the SLR and the SA-80 (as both were in use at the time) and while the instructions were clear and to the point for the SLR, the SA-80's had an additional caveat that had the soldier check to make sure the mag wasn't about to fall out.

No wonder the SAS don't use it, instead preferring the M-16A2 (with M203 grenade launchers in many cases) or the Canadian equivalent, the C5.

The Beretta M92 had it's issues in the beginning but they got it sorted and it remains my favourite handgun of all.

Wardy
 

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Wadders said:
brodie21 said:
the M-16. considered the worst assault rifle in the world. any sort of melee with it would shatter the spring-loaded stock and the overly complex firing mechanism was a ***** to clean and jammed alot. the only reason it became the standard american infantry rifle was politics, "buy my gun and you get my vote". it was originally designed for MPs at stateside military bases
It's since been fixed though. Several times. Pretty sure that the M16 A4 (the most recent version) has most of the creses ironed out.
i know, i was just referencing the original. but i dont see what was wrong with the m-14
 

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Zap Rowsdower said:
Terminate421 said:
Frequen-Z said:

I mean, nobody's ever shot it twice, must be terrible.
I beg to differ



It doesn't even shoot bullets
(I was in fourth grade when I first saw it)
[sub]That show was so awful.[/sub]
Ot: I don't know, I'm not much into guns.
dude, that show was awesome... what kind of childhood did you have?
 

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brodie21 said:
Wadders said:
brodie21 said:
the M-16. considered the worst assault rifle in the world. any sort of melee with it would shatter the spring-loaded stock and the overly complex firing mechanism was a ***** to clean and jammed alot. the only reason it became the standard american infantry rifle was politics, "buy my gun and you get my vote". it was originally designed for MPs at stateside military bases
It's since been fixed though. Several times. Pretty sure that the M16 A4 (the most recent version) has most of the creses ironed out.
i know, i was just referencing the original. but i dont see what was wrong with the m-14
Fair enough. :)

And I suppose the M14 is pretty big, heavy, fairly useless when fired on automatic. Plus the 7.62mm rounds take up a lot of room compared to 5.56mm so you can carry less ammo. Also I think that the wooden stocks tended to warp in the jungle which a bad effect on the gun's acuracy.

Far be it from me to say, being neither an expert or a soldier, but the M14 is probably better off in it's current role...

Varrdy said:
brodie21 said:
the M-16. considered the worst assault rifle in the world. any sort of melee with it would shatter the spring-loaded stock and the overly complex firing mechanism was a ***** to clean and jammed alot. the only reason it became the standard american infantry rifle was politics, "buy my gun and you get my vote". it was originally designed for MPs at stateside military bases
There is a saying in the armed forces of many countries. "Always remember that your gun was made by the lowest bidder!"

I can speak from personal experience and say that the SA-80 the average British Army soldier gets (as well as other-ground based units of the Navy and RAF) is a pile of wank. I've fired one a few times and can see why it was called the "Airfix Rifle". When I was at a weekend camp at Proteus in Ollerton (it's now closed and until recently was a fucking sweet airsoft skirmish site) with the ATC I recall seeing a sign by the discharge pit. It spoke of the SLR and the SA-80 (as both were in use at the time) and while the instructions were clear and to the point for the SLR, the SA-80's had an additional caveat that had the soldier check to make sure the mag wasn't about to fall out.

No wonder the SAS don't use it, instead preferring the M-16A2 (with M203 grenade launchers in many cases) or the Canadian equivalent, the C5.

The Beretta M92 had it's issues in the beginning but they got it sorted and it remains my favourite handgun of all.

Wardy
Again, I think the L85A2 version has improved upon a lot of the problems the original weapon had. From what I hear it's not nearly as bad as it was :)
 

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smearyllama said:
I only know from games, but wasn't the Browning HiPower kind of crappy?
On the contrary. The Browning Hi-Power is the most used military sidearm in history. It has been in production since 1939, and is widely used today.

Source: Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_9mm]
 

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smearyllama said:
I only know from games, but wasn't the Browning HiPower kind of crappy?
The gun used by both sides in world war 2 and that the SAS would continue to use for 60 years or so? No.

M60 and M16 were both very useless in Vietnam , certainly contributing to America's eventual loss.

Also a lot of people hold the M1 Garand in to high a regard, fairly average in terms of accurracy and clip size with the added advantage of semi-automatic fire. However every time a clip was emptied it would spring from the gun and make a huge audible *TING* noise letting everyone know you're out of ammo, and that's the kind of thing that would get soldiers killed.
 

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Chauchat
WWI
your in the trenches
and you get a blessing from France! A super light machine that fires fast and has a large magazine, too bad the internals are made out of stamped tin and the clip is open on the side to let anything in the trench, get into your machine. Notorious for killing more allies than axis.
Truly the shittiest gun in history.
 

Mr. Omega

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The potato cannon. Sure, it stings, but a bullet from a real gun is so much more effective.

In all seriousness, the Desert Eagle.
 

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The Liberator


Barring WW2, the Apache



I'll just let the idiocy of this weapon speak for itself. But this was a real, marketed personal defense weapon.
 

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The M60 has terrible recoil,is hard to aim,it's to heavy,it has a short bullet range and it gets jamed pretty easy but it's awesome
 

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JWAN said:
Chauchat
WWI
your in the trenches
and you get a blessing from France! A super light machine that fires fast and has a large magazine, too bad the internals are made out of stamped tin and the clip is open on the side to let anything in the trench, get into your machine. Notorious for killing more allies than axis.
Truly the shittiest gun in history.


was about to say that.
 

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Not really a rifle, but isn't the PIAT considered to be among the most user-unfriendly weapons of all time?