It's a dog with a Glasgow Grin. It's a weird negative'd inversion of Smiledog with better teeth.OhJohnNo said:O_Olacktheknack said:sniiiiiip
That image is... disturbing. What exactly is it?
It's a dog with a Glasgow Grin. It's a weird negative'd inversion of Smiledog with better teeth.OhJohnNo said:O_Olacktheknack said:sniiiiiip
That image is... disturbing. What exactly is it?
Come off it. It's perfectly valid to, upon observing something over and over, to assume that it will remain the same. The "every single one" argument is useless.InterAirplay said:So are we to assume you know literally every single irish traveller who is currently alive?
Irish traveller? What the F*** are you talking about? I have never seen a irish traveller in my whole life...InterAirplay said:So are we to assume you know literally every single irish traveller who is currently alive?TitanAtlas said:Yeah i guess with the state giving them houses and giving theyre kids opportunities of study doesn't get ahold with the fact that they trash and sell the houses and do not let the kids go beyond 4th grade. That and the payment the state gives them for food and child support also doesn't get well togheter of them keeping and steal food at the markets and steal people for whatever they have...Furioso said:Don't forget that that kind of behavior comes from generation after generation of being labeled as violent thieving wastes of space, being the most prosecuted and prejudiced group of people in the planet doesn't exactly give them a whole lot of opportunity, which leads to poverty, crime, etc, it all comes from somewhereTitanAtlas said:Could be a country thing. Here they prefer to live on the outside with shacks they make (like a shanty town). The president and the region district managers gave them houses, but they all end up fuckign things up (getting ways to get money from the free homes they got), and go back to the shacks...Wuggy said:Hello, part-Romani (gypsy) here. Please don't generalize.TitanAtlas said:yeah in my country gypsies are not a good thing. Sorry if i sounded racist.
Well, I travel to work by bus, and not too long ago I was sitting in a seat that basically has another set of seats facing you. Well I sat there and this overweight lady smelling of old booze and ashtray sat in front of me. Well, I just continued to listen to my (not-stolen) iPod and looked out the window until suddendly she sneezes. Only that she didn't face away from anyone, nor did she cover it up with a hand or anything. So yeah, thanks for the slime-bath, lady.
In here i never saw a gypsie that didn't steal or beat people up. There are some kids in the area that beat up a women just because she didn't gave her cigars. Also another man who was beeing mugged kicked 4 gypsies ass (he was a fighter, not sure if takewdo or something else), and they just got all the family with maces and firearms and beat the man to a pulp. Even little kids were kicking the man when he was in the floor.
It was rather discussing to see that kind of crap. Even i got kicked, mugged and almost killed by them.
So sorry if i dislike gypsies a lot... it's not a unreaseneble hate... it's a true hate created by things they've done that i've seen and that they've doned to me.
So yeah... sorry.
But you know... they have all the right to be violent and give a stab here and there... even though they are treated has kings...
But i do love when shit hits the fan and they shoot a police and still act like they are the innocent, the police just became a swiss cheese because the man felt like it...
Bottoms point they are given all the opportunities to live better then others on my country. They chose not to, and decided to steal and destroy. I do not feel sorry at all...
If they are labeled has a criminal shouldn't they work against that label? Just because you played Assassin's Creed Revelations and developed a soft spot for them, doesn't mean that i should to, according to the crap they've pulled against me and others, things that i've seen and that were done to me.
But no... you are right... they have total rights to be bad people, cuz you know labels and lack of opportunities and all, so you HAVE to be right...
I mad...
The problem with public transportation is the public.PuffTheMagicDragon said:Good lord...This thread is making a good example of why I refuse to use public transportation; even with my pro stance on environmentalism. The last time I took the bus, it was the school bus and nothing really sticks out well enough for me to remember.
Which rarely manifests. I find people to be quite easy to predict.InterAirplay said:Assuming that the traits of the people you encounter are, as a rule, inherent in any other people that happen to fall into the same ethnic division is entirely unreasonable. And it's nothing like observing something over and over and over and coming to the conclusion that it will remain the same, especially not when we're discussing the nature of human beings, who are both fairly unpredictable and capable of freedom of choice as to how they behave.lacktheknack said:Come off it. It's perfectly valid to, upon observing something over and over, to assume that it will remain the same. The "every single one" argument is useless.InterAirplay said:So are we to assume you know literally every single irish traveller who is currently alive?
Considering the person who i was talking to deleted what i wrote, and you could always go back to the first page and see what i wrote, let me clarify you and say i was speaking about gypsies....InterAirplay said:There are two types. At no point did you clarify which one you were talking about, I assumed the Irish traveller variant since they got discussed a lot in these forums. But hey, just delete the type I mentioned and insert the one you were talking about, still the same argument.TitanAtlas said:Irish traveller? What the F*** are you talking about? I have never seen a irish traveller in my whole life...InterAirplay said:So are we to assume you know literally every single irish traveller who is currently alive?TitanAtlas said:Yeah i guess with the state giving them houses and giving theyre kids opportunities of study doesn't get ahold with the fact that they trash and sell the houses and do not let the kids go beyond 4th grade. That and the payment the state gives them for food and child support also doesn't get well togheter of them keeping and steal food at the markets and steal people for whatever they have...Furioso said:Don't forget that that kind of behavior comes from generation after generation of being labeled as violent thieving wastes of space, being the most prosecuted and prejudiced group of people in the planet doesn't exactly give them a whole lot of opportunity, which leads to poverty, crime, etc, it all comes from somewhereTitanAtlas said:Could be a country thing. Here they prefer to live on the outside with shacks they make (like a shanty town). The president and the region district managers gave them houses, but they all end up fuckign things up (getting ways to get money from the free homes they got), and go back to the shacks...Wuggy said:Hello, part-Romani (gypsy) here. Please don't generalize.TitanAtlas said:yeah in my country gypsies are not a good thing. Sorry if i sounded racist.
Well, I travel to work by bus, and not too long ago I was sitting in a seat that basically has another set of seats facing you. Well I sat there and this overweight lady smelling of old booze and ashtray sat in front of me. Well, I just continued to listen to my (not-stolen) iPod and looked out the window until suddendly she sneezes. Only that she didn't face away from anyone, nor did she cover it up with a hand or anything. So yeah, thanks for the slime-bath, lady.
In here i never saw a gypsie that didn't steal or beat people up. There are some kids in the area that beat up a women just because she didn't gave her cigars. Also another man who was beeing mugged kicked 4 gypsies ass (he was a fighter, not sure if takewdo or something else), and they just got all the family with maces and firearms and beat the man to a pulp. Even little kids were kicking the man when he was in the floor.
It was rather discussing to see that kind of crap. Even i got kicked, mugged and almost killed by them.
So sorry if i dislike gypsies a lot... it's not a unreaseneble hate... it's a true hate created by things they've done that i've seen and that they've doned to me.
So yeah... sorry.
But you know... they have all the right to be violent and give a stab here and there... even though they are treated has kings...
But i do love when shit hits the fan and they shoot a police and still act like they are the innocent, the police just became a swiss cheese because the man felt like it...
Bottoms point they are given all the opportunities to live better then others on my country. They chose not to, and decided to steal and destroy. I do not feel sorry at all...
If they are labeled has a criminal shouldn't they work against that label? Just because you played Assassin's Creed Revelations and developed a soft spot for them, doesn't mean that i should to, according to the crap they've pulled against me and others, things that i've seen and that were done to me.
But no... you are right... they have total rights to be bad people, cuz you know labels and lack of opportunities and all, so you HAVE to be right...
I mad...
Assuming that the traits of the people you encounter are, as a rule, inherent in any other people that happen to fall into the same ethnic division is entirely unreasonable. And it's nothing like observing something over and over and over and coming to the conclusion that it will remain the same, especially not when we're discussing the nature of human beings, who are both fairly unpredictable and capable of freedom of choice as to how they behave.lacktheknack said:Come off it. It's perfectly valid to, upon observing something over and over, to assume that it will remain the same. The "every single one" argument is useless.InterAirplay said:So are we to assume you know literally every single irish traveller who is currently alive?
Yeah, you're nitpicking.InterAirplay said:I was about to amend my post to fit that, because it's a good point and you make it well. It owuld be fair to assume that if people grow up in a particular environment then they'll most likely exhibit the same type of group thinking, especially if they're fairly deprived (either through choice, personal failure or circumstance) people.lacktheknack said:Which rarely manifests. I find people to be quite easy to predict.InterAirplay said:Assuming that the traits of the people you encounter are, as a rule, inherent in any other people that happen to fall into the same ethnic division is entirely unreasonable. And it's nothing like observing something over and over and over and coming to the conclusion that it will remain the same, especially not when we're discussing the nature of human beings, who are both fairly unpredictable and capable of freedom of choice as to how they behave.lacktheknack said:Come off it. It's perfectly valid to, upon observing something over and over, to assume that it will remain the same. The "every single one" argument is useless.InterAirplay said:So are we to assume you know literally every single irish traveller who is currently alive?
And you're ignoring the whole part he mentioned about them living together under different societal structure and social context. Stunningly enough, condition of growth has a very major (and equalizing) effect on behavior. See: gangs.
However, you can't say it's likely that someone holding the title of gypsy will exhibit the same traits unless you know for a fact that they belong to the same type of environment.
Am I nitpicking? I'm nitpicking aren't I. It's just there's a fine line between reasonable assumptions and racism, and it's one I think is important to define. Cheers for the response anyway.