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shale1157

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Why is that a lot of today's bands are either remaking or stealing old song's?
What happened to creativity?


Example:
Dream on by Aerosmith remade by Eminem
Eye of the Tiger by Survivor remade by Crew 7
Tainted Love by Soft Cell remade by Marylon Manson

and I couldn't believe this one:
Safety Dance by Men with out Hats remade by The Donnas?

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Matt_LRR

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shale1157 said:
Why is that a lot of today's bands are either remaking or stealing old song's?
What happened to creativity?


Example:
Dream on by Aerosmith remade by Eminem
Eye of the Tiger by Survivor remade by Crew 7
Tainted Love by Soft Cell remade by Marylon Manson

and I couldn't believe this one:
Safety Dance by Men with out Hats remade by The Donnas?

Whats Wrong with the World?

Feel free to post others.
Bands covering songs by other bands is hardly a new thing.

-m
 

Dags90

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Matt_LRR said:
Bands covering songs by other bands is hardly a new thing.

-m
But this signifies the beginning end of music! It's one of the music four horsemen, along with new instrumentation, popular music and Miley Cyrus! Sinners must repent, the end is near!

My question is: What's with all the threads on entertainment declining? Where's the creativity? Are we, as a forum, so small minded that we can't come up with more interesting topics?
 

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shale1157 said:
Yes but could they keep it to when they just start out?
why limit it to newcomers?
People have the right to try out other songs if they like them, or if they feel they can add something to it. It's not a matter of ripping them off, it's just something to do. It's not like they aren't making other songs because they're too busy doing covers. Honestly you can be annoyed by them if you want, but it's not an issue in the slightest.
 

Matt_LRR

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shale1157 said:
Yes but could they keep it to when they just start out?
there's a pretty major difference between being a cover band or practising by performing other people's music, and the practise of established artists doing the occasional cover track.

-m
 

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If there're completely different styles then I welcome it. If it is within the same style then I believe it'll sound too much like the original to care.
 

shale1157

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Another Problem is that they usually arnt nearly as good as the first band.
There are a couple exeptions.
 

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shale1157 said:
Another Problem is that they usually arnt nearly as good as the first band.
There are a couple exeptions.
So something should not be done because some past examples aren't as good as some other things according to your opinion?
 

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Because people will never be satisfied with originality? I dunno'. Perhaps they thought they could do it better, or do it as a tribute.
 

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sunburst313 said:
shale1157 said:
Another Problem is that they usually arnt nearly as good as the first band.
There are a couple exeptions.
So something should not be done because some past examples aren't as good as some other things according to your opinion?
Well Dream on isnt very good as rap

And Crew 7 sped eye of the tiger up too fast
 

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Why not remake songs? If a song plays a big enough part on somebodies life, and they get the original artists consent, what's the problem? Without covers, some songs wouldn't have been as memorable. And sometimes a cover can bring the original artist back into the mainstream, despite having had faded away awhile ago.

Covers aren't new by any means, and they aren't going away. Plus, without covers, I wouldn't have the Northern Kings to listen too. And anyone who tries to take my Northern Kings from me is going to get a swift kick in the ass.
 

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shale1157 said:
sunburst313 said:
shale1157 said:
Another Problem is that they usually arnt nearly as good as the first band.
There are a couple exeptions.
So something should not be done because some past examples aren't as good as some other things according to your opinion?
Well Dream on isnt very good as rap
I happened to enjoy Sing for the Moment even more than Dream On.

No matter how many examples you come up with, you're just giving your opinion on specific songs and using it to decry an integral part of the modern music industry that's existed from day one.
 

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shale1157 said:
sunburst313 said:
shale1157 said:
Another Problem is that they usually arnt nearly as good as the first band.
There are a couple exeptions.
So something should not be done because some past examples aren't as good as some other things according to your opinion?
Well Dream on isnt very good as rap
Dream on by Eminem is actually Called Sing For The Moment, and its not a cover really, he just uses a sample from dream on, so its not really fair to say its not as good when its completely different except for that little sample played in the song haha.

Not a fan of rap or Eminem really, however I do think that song is pretty cool if you listen to the lyrics of it.

edit- gah ninja'd
 

shale1157

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Nihlex said:
shale1157 said:
sunburst313 said:
shale1157 said:
Another Problem is that they usually arnt nearly as good as the first band.
There are a couple exeptions.
So something should not be done because some past examples aren't as good as some other things according to your opinion?
Well Dream on isnt very good as rap
Dream on by Eminem is actually Called Sing For The Moment, and its not a cover really, he just uses a sample from dream on, so its not really fair to say its not as good when its completely different except for that little sample played in the song haha.

Not a fan of rap or Eminem really, however I do think that song is pretty cool if you listen to the lyrics of it.
Vannilla Ice took a sample from Queen and Bowie
 

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Just_A_Glitch said:
Why not remake songs? If a song plays a big enough part on somebodies life, and they get the original artists consent, what's the problem? Without covers, some songs wouldn't have been as memorable. And sometimes a cover can bring the original artist back into the mainstream, despite having had faded away awhile ago
I agree with this to an extent. Music is a constant progression. It is rare that an artist or a band comes along a defines a new genre or expands on a current one (what would rock music be without Bo Diddley or pop without Michael Jackson, whether or not you like it.) So it makes sense to pay direct homage to these pioneers.

"To an extent" is the key phrase of my original statement, though. Do we really need to pay our respects to Men Without Hats? Can't that remain a gimmick to be made fun of and played at '80s parties? All the other songs you listed are classics to a certain degree and I don't see anything wrong with that.

So my answer: The Donnas are not a representative enough sample to abstract to the music population, let alone the world. Nothing is wrong with the world, but there are and always will be stupid people.
 

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shale1157 said:
Nihlex said:
shale1157 said:
sunburst313 said:
shale1157 said:
Another Problem is that they usually arnt nearly as good as the first band.
There are a couple exeptions.
So something should not be done because some past examples aren't as good as some other things according to your opinion?
Well Dream on isnt very good as rap
Dream on by Eminem is actually Called Sing For The Moment, and its not a cover really, he just uses a sample from dream on, so its not really fair to say its not as good when its completely different except for that little sample played in the song haha.

Not a fan of rap or Eminem really, however I do think that song is pretty cool if you listen to the lyrics of it.
Vannilla Ice took a sample from Queen and Bowie
Point being? I said nothing about artists using other artist's work I simply clarified that Sing For The Moment isn't a cover of Dream On.

If you want me to talk about covers then here is my opinion.

Sometimes covers can be better that the originals as well, I personally prefer Baker Street by the Foo Fighters over the original, and Turn The Page by Metallica over the original, it's all personal preference.

If your saying people shouldn't be allowed to do covers then no one would be able to learn anything about music because most people start of playing music already created cause they like the sound of it. If you want to honor a song that you personally like by making a cover of it, what's the problem?
 

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Because piggybacking off previous success is and always has been the Hollywood way.
 

Callum Hamilton

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Sometimes works out quite well. I like a change in style. Check out the baseballs. Not one original song on thier album but pretty damn good covers of allready popular modern songs done in an old 50s rock n roll style.
Unoriginal songs in an unoriginal style... Love it.