Best post of the thread.Jegsimmons said:
Seriously people, we're not that interesting. Focus on your own countries.
What's with Americans and getting married?
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Seriously people, we're not that interesting. Focus on your own countries.
Well sitcoms aren't exactly the best source of information about this kind of thing I'm afraid.
Here in America, we are predominantly Christian, so marriage is a bit of a big deal here. That's not to say everyone should be married. Especially when you are young and still trying to find out what you want to do with your life.
Here in America, we are predominantly Christian, so marriage is a bit of a big deal here. That's not to say everyone should be married. Especially when you are young and still trying to find out what you want to do with your life.
Seems like the new thing that's "cool" here on the Escapist. Like hating on games because they are popular and they appeal to the "lowest common denominator".Jegsimmons said:
1. Stop learning about stuff from sitcoms.
2. I think marriage is so romantic these days because of how Hollywood portrayed it.
3. My parents got married when they had had two children already (I was soon to come) and they decided well we might as well get married then. Lucky they did, because now I can legitimately say I am the only non-bastard child in my family.
2. I think marriage is so romantic these days because of how Hollywood portrayed it.
3. My parents got married when they had had two children already (I was soon to come) and they decided well we might as well get married then. Lucky they did, because now I can legitimately say I am the only non-bastard child in my family.
What's with people ignoring entire arguments because of one single example they don't agree with?ZeroMachine said:
Americans marry 2-5 years younger than Europeans, that much is fact [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_at_first_marriage] and that's despite their relatively high Age of Consent.
The US is also second only to some Eastern European nations when it comes to the divorce rate.
I don't see how sitcoms being exaggerated somehow disprove the OP's point when all the facts confirm it.
Of course the average isn't representative for all Americans; no one claims that all Americans are fundamentalist Christians or something who get married in their first relationship and before they ever have sex.
This is quite possibly one of the most hateful and ignorant things I have read today. I don't understand the blind attacks on religion, or the belief that anyone who believes in God in America believes that God chose America over all other countries.triggrhappy94 said:
As an American, I dont believe in marrige. I believe if you truly love someone, give them the option to cheat on you and the love will be more worthwhile when you realize your partner decides to stay with you over someone else. But anyway, here in America there is ALOT of evangelical nutjobs who believe in marrige before sex, marrige is for raising children, etc. So I hope that sums it up
Americans have this mystical idea of how the American home should be.ripdajacker said:
Wife in kitchen, man working and little billy plays baseball. Oh and no gays or minorities in sight. It's this vision of the American home from the 60's that people pretend existed.
It's more the media serving the White Male baby boomers since there is a lot of them.
To be honest, I can't be bothered going and around having lots of sex anymore, and I'm not that old. I've done all that in my late teens, it just seems childish now. I definitely understand why people settle down early, it's more satisfying in the long run. Just because you still want to go around banging strangers doesn't mean everyone else wants to, a lot of people have gotten over that and want something more meaningful.
This can only be considered as fact if you use the term 'on average', or are slightly selective on which countries you accept in Europe. You would have to cut out: Albania, Belarus, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Macedonia, Moldova, Poland, Portugal and Ukraine. (also add Russia to the list if you ascribe to the Eurasia continental idea. [Which by definition makes more sense based on the definition of continent]).Staskala said:
Hm. I've been married for 10 years now; and by reading all the responses to this thread, I think there are some seriously misguided/mislead people out there.
1) You don't enter into marriage for the money; because it'll never be enough if you feel that you've given up your freedom to be 'secure'.
2) You don't marry for looks; you'll be REALLY disappointed down the road when one or the both of you 'don't age well'.
3) Never marry because you knocked someone up or got knocked up; there's just going to be a whole lot of resentment all across the board.
4) Don't believe everything you see on television; the people on 99.9 per cent of these programs portray marriage as a farce, a burden, or a license to be a 24 hour douchebag to the other half. In the end, it's all bullshit and frankly, I think if people shut off the television and use some fucking common sense, we wouldn't have nearly as many problems as we have right now.
Marriage is about communication, love, hard work, acceptence and sacrifice. If you aren't happy with where you are in life, you can't expect to bring someone into your life and have them fix everything you think is wrong with you. And don't marry someone with the thought in mind that 'Well, they're ALMOST perfect; they just need to do this, this, this and this...'; it'll never happen.
In other words, don't get married; you'll just make those of us who are happily married moan.
1) You don't enter into marriage for the money; because it'll never be enough if you feel that you've given up your freedom to be 'secure'.
2) You don't marry for looks; you'll be REALLY disappointed down the road when one or the both of you 'don't age well'.
3) Never marry because you knocked someone up or got knocked up; there's just going to be a whole lot of resentment all across the board.
4) Don't believe everything you see on television; the people on 99.9 per cent of these programs portray marriage as a farce, a burden, or a license to be a 24 hour douchebag to the other half. In the end, it's all bullshit and frankly, I think if people shut off the television and use some fucking common sense, we wouldn't have nearly as many problems as we have right now.
Marriage is about communication, love, hard work, acceptence and sacrifice. If you aren't happy with where you are in life, you can't expect to bring someone into your life and have them fix everything you think is wrong with you. And don't marry someone with the thought in mind that 'Well, they're ALMOST perfect; they just need to do this, this, this and this...'; it'll never happen.
In other words, don't get married; you'll just make those of us who are happily married moan.
yeah i know a couple that is engaged they are both 18 and he asked her while they were still in high school (and she was still 17) and i'm hoping to high hell they do break up, because i never liked to boyfriend well before i met the girlfriend. i actually met her about a year after i met him, (they were dating that whole time too) but i made instant friends with the her, then went on a class trip to Disney that he didn't come on, and i was a fish out of water with people i wasn't comfortable with except her so i stuck with her the whole trip (4 days) and fell absolutely in love. damn it. now you know how bitter i get when i guy i have never liked (he's a asshole) ends up having an amazing girlfriend?ZeroMachine said:
well she said yes when he asked her, though she was pissed at him (about a month lefts of school) and the story sounds like he got scared she'd dump him soon,(almost every couple in senior year either broke up or got engaged) so yes they are way to young to be doing this, (and every one of her friends thinks he cheated on her at least once) but what can you do? people are stupid when it comes to relationships. (that's why i've avoided them like the plague for years)
It's just part of the mentality. It might be due to our (sometimes overtly) religious beliefs, or it might just be a part of the culture that nobody wants to be rid of, or it might just be because we want to get married.
Can't say for sure, doesn't really matter either way.
Can't say for sure, doesn't really matter either way.
You could have waited those 5 minutes it took me to edited my post, because I addressed exactly that. Oh well.ardencabbel said:
Since the OP is from Denmark I don't see how Eastern European nations (or indeed any country except Denmark) are relevant here, but yeah, that was badly phrased. Just add a "Western" there or something.
See now that's what annoys me. Why is marriage often treated as the final destination for a loving relationship? Why bother getting married? Can anyone give me a good reason?FreakSheet said:
Because it is a contract that is helpful legally, and i believe allows you to claim extra benefits.
However, if you are refering to the ceremony, then it is done from old values and social beliefs.
However, if you are refering to the ceremony, then it is done from old values and social beliefs.
I wouldnt know about canadians or mexicans, but in the US the idea of marriage is very romanticized. However, most people realize that it wont be like that once you're no longer a teen/early twenty year old. The idea is you awnt to be married to have children (so that they have a stable family life and both parents to influence them), and so that you're with the one and they're with you. But with a failure rate of something like 50% (maybe plus now), and the thought that you can divorce and try again, marriage is almost like the new dating.
Also, you're watching sitcoms. They dont reflect real life, especially not now. And after hearing about Denmark's policy on marriage 9if your example is true) im not exactly impressed by it and dont see where the air of superiority comes from.
Also, you're watching sitcoms. They dont reflect real life, especially not now. And after hearing about Denmark's policy on marriage 9if your example is true) im not exactly impressed by it and dont see where the air of superiority comes from.
ThisTestECull said:
Also: >Implying that Americans are the only people that get married a lot. Haha... Do your research.
Also: Just sounds like your culture has a big stress on promiscuity while the American culture (derived mostly from British culture from way back when promiscuity was like murder) has a greater stress on commitment.