What's with the negative view on rock/metal music?

[thedevildancer]

1. i dont like the screaming.
2. i dont like the long fast guitar solo.
3. i dont like how the music has no meaning (music not lyrics) its all just loud and screamy a sad song should have a sad tune.
4. i dont like how its all a sport fastest solo louder music longer hair.
5. i dont like how it all sounds the same.
i dont like metal and neither should you

 

[ChaoticKraus]

On the contrary i'd say rock/metal is one of the least controversial genres. Probably due to there being very broad range of it.

Personally i don't like the sound and the way everyone in the culture tend to circlejerk over how much better it is over everything else but generally don't express an opinion either way.

 

[Alkaline]

When people who dont listen to metal think of what metal is, they think of this...


This is pleasing to my ears, but the vocalist doesnt sound like, you know, actuall singing. And of course, hyper violent and all that shit.

They dont know about all the other types of bands out there. Its more of a pre-consived notion than anything else.

No, they think of this:

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

1. i dont like the screaming.
2. i dont like the long fast guitar solo.
3. i dont like how the music has no meaning (music not lyrics) its all just loud and screamy a sad song should have a sad tune.
4. i dont like how its all a sport fastest solo louder music longer hair.
5. i dont like how it all sounds the same.
i dont like metal and neither should you

Huh.
*looks at you*
Nnnngghh... Hnnnggghhh...
I don't think you're serious.

OP: It's hated? Are you a time traveler or something? It's not hated now-a-days.

 

[Vigormortis]

When people who dont listen to metal think of what metal is, they think of this...


This is pleasing to my ears, but the vocalist doesnt sound like, you know, actuall singing. And of course, hyper violent and all that shit.

They dont know about all the other types of bands out there. Its more of a pre-consived notion than anything else.

You know, it's funny. I'm generally not a fan of today's various forms of metal. Yet, I love Dethklok. Maybe it's not only because Brendon Small is an amazingly talented guitarist, but he also has a sense of humor with his lyrics. So more often then not, when a Dethklok song has violent lyrics, it's more satirical than with other "real" metal bands.

[edit] Also, Dethklok tends to have a greater level of musicality in their songs than most other metal bands today.

 

[Raggedstar]

Negative views on metal? That stuff has been going on for more than 30 years. Been there, done that. Though for the most part, metal these days is fairly well recieved. A lot of the good stuff isn't "MAINSTREAM", but still at a good level of acceptance. Sure there are the nutter people who think you're going to hell for it, but what doesn't get you into hell to them? People I know are either metal fans, or have just lived with it.

If you're talking about people who just plain dislike it *shrugs* people like/dislike cetain things. Simple as that. Open-and-shut case. I'm sure there are songs/genres you feel like you can't listen to.

The best kind of Metal to show to detractors is Power Metal, provided you can get them to read the lyrics at the same time. Most people think shredding and pounding unilaterally leads to singing about demons and scantily-clad succubi and, well, generally everything that ends up in a typical Cradle of Filth song. Bands like Helloween, on the other end, are typically steeped in Tolkien-based hero worship and maintain a largely positive outlook on things. The same goes for Italian Metal (i.e. Rhapsody), where ending up with an operatic finish about some sort of epic clash between a single wizard against an entire army is fairly commonplace.

There's plenty of Metal subgenres that absolutely don't wallow in doom and gloom, but they naturally don't get much circulation. The mainstream media tends to give more attention to anything that's borderline Screamo or that makes Trent Reznor's melodramas look like a half-hour spent watching the Teletubbies.

Completely agree about power metal. Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, and Stratovarius (gotta love 'dem Finns) were three of my gateway bands that got me into metal. I listened to bands like Metallica too, but power metal is where my heart is. It's one of the less "offensive" and more approachable sub-genres (except for maybe folk metal for those that are into the folky stuff). It's metal, but it doesn't "scare" people so much. Power metal has upbeat (sometimes fantastical) tempos and themes, aren't as loud, not known for screaming or Satanic themes, etc. I mean, bloody Nightwish has certain songs/lyrics rooted deeply into mythology, fairy tales, classic literature, and DISNEY (as well as the entire song Fantasmic, which is deliciously stuffed with it).

 

[Tiger Sora]

Metal I can see. But are we talking about new rock. Or the old rock and roll.

But opinions as people are saying.

 

[Fiad]

I would actually say it is more well received now than at any other point in the past. I mean in the 70s and such people would outright shun rock because they called it the devil music.

Buy ya, opinions. Everyone has them.

 

[zehydra]

For metal I think it's because any metal thread just turns into a circle jerk about how fast they can masturbate their guitar or what guitar masturbation they like and it gets boring to see it pop up.

"Oh no you have it all wrong listen to this"

*Wailing guitars and vocalist screaming about sorrow"

"I don't like that"

"Well, how about this"

*More guitar wankery and screaming lyrics about negative things*

"Erm, I'll pass"

Anyway, I rarely see any hostility to rock. Also, I would say many more people like metal than dislike it. I like some metal songs but most I avoid.

Maybe on this website, but in general, Metal has waaay more people that dislike it than like it. Metal in all its forms has never been the "popular" genre.

 

[Phlakes]

I'm pretty sure it's the sex, drugs, and rock and roll culture people have associated with it. Not the music itself. At least not until you get into metal, even if you like it, you can see where people are coming from.

 

[lRookiel]

Metal and rock are my preferred genres, but the only opinions people seem to state is that it's all the same and that it's all screaming. I beg to differ....

 

[thedevildancer]

5. i dont like how it all sounds the same.

Yes, because this

Is exactly the same as this

I could let my granny listen to the first song, and I myself can only stand a few like the last before it all starts to sound alike, yet, both fall under metal.

this is like madonna calling herself a rocker all over again the first one is not metal it can its metal it can come from a metal band its not metal the second one by the way if slowed down a tad not to crazy so

but its not my point my point is if you take 10 metal songs randomly 1 will sound different and if you take any two songs from the same album i couldn't tell them apart

 

[BENZOOKA]

As for the OP: who gives a damn, honestly? Keep liking what you like and let anyone stupid enough to condemn your tastes prattle on. Opinions are pretty hard to modify

That's a good way to sum it up. Haters gonna hate and so on.

I've seen more of the "hating" described by OP towards Rap, electronic and classical music though. If you're between the ages of 10 and 70 and you say you like metal, nobody won't give a fuck in Finland because that's as shocking and rare as saying you like ice cream.

Personally I find the heavier rock, metal (and their forty-eight thousand different genres and subgenres) way too boring. It has to progressive or otherwise interesting. I've enjoyed plenty of SoaD, native punk rock bands and bands like At The Drive-In (not Mars Volta though) and so on. There are certain aspects that catch and keep my attention, which is the case for most people, of course.

As a teenager, a large majority of my friend group were enthusiastic metalheads, the odd rest liking whatever pop songs to the here-and-there hits, music not being such a factor. My strongest passion was and has been Hip-Hop, but it doesn't mean there wasn't plenty of room for everything from classical music through Miles Davis, Johnny Cash, Maximum The Hormone to Blockhead and Aphex Twin...

Which slowly and clumsily bridges to my original 2 cents to this conversation: Seeing these kind of topics and the general talk about metal and similar entities, especially online, as well as in real-life; many people who like metal, like to mention that whenever a chance comes or at least show it by appearance, and except an awe of certain respect for that. At the same time when they are complaining why some people wrongly see them (because of their appearance or heavy metal stereotypes associated to them) as intimidating and other imaginable adjectives; they go on to chew them over, and like it. Even enforcing those stereotypes so they can wear it like a cloak, whether to gain a bit of some kind of strange admiration, or to hide their insecurities.

That's kind of a complex thing to bring up as I see it, but anyone willing to elaborate on that, feel free to do so, because I still don't understand why the label of metal-listener is used in such a way.

 

[Goofguy]

Uh, I don't get this feeling at all...

Sure, there are plenty of people who aren't fond of rock and/or metal due to their personal preferences. You can't hold it against them, it's a matter of opinion.

Not once in my life has anyone ever told me that the rock and metal I listen to is "crap" or "offensive".

 

[Chemyst]

http://www.mendeley.com/research/anything-but-heavy-metal-symbolic-exclusion-and-musical-dislikes/

== "Anything But Heavy Metal": Symbolic Exclusion and Musical Dislikes ==

'Those genres whose fans have the least education-gospel, country, rap, and heavy metal-are also those most likely to be rejected by the musically tolerant'