From a legal perspective, polygamy is a nightmare if judged by modern marriage standards where property and assets are considered to be equally owned by both partners. Imagine a polygamous marriage where one of the partners decides to leave the marriage. How do you divide assets, deal with custody issues, etc? Just looking at it from a purely pragmatic standpoint, polygamy is just too complicated an arrangement to be viable as a legal contract
What's wrong with Polygamy
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There isn't anything intrinsically wrong with polygamy. Many cultures have used it and several use it to date. (In fact there may actually have been more polygamous cultures in history, but I forget and can't be arsed to research right now)
The main problem, the way I see it, is that it is typically implimented in a sexually discriminating way, where the culture will accept only one person of the dominant gender having several spouses of the other. That would be a problem and I sure as hell wouldn't want something like that to be institutionalized.
Consenting adults though. If the people are mature enough to make their own, free decissions, they should be free to do whatever they like between themselves that doesn't hurt other people.
Talking about it being logical or discussing the practicality of it is mostly pointless. These are human relationships, those usually aren't entirely logical. As for them working, well people can make a lot of things work and plenty relationships that should be practical fail spectacularly anyway because that just happens from time to time.
It would probably be a lot simpler if we were all just pansexually polyamorous (note: joke)
The main problem, the way I see it, is that it is typically implimented in a sexually discriminating way, where the culture will accept only one person of the dominant gender having several spouses of the other. That would be a problem and I sure as hell wouldn't want something like that to be institutionalized.
Consenting adults though. If the people are mature enough to make their own, free decissions, they should be free to do whatever they like between themselves that doesn't hurt other people.
Talking about it being logical or discussing the practicality of it is mostly pointless. These are human relationships, those usually aren't entirely logical. As for them working, well people can make a lot of things work and plenty relationships that should be practical fail spectacularly anyway because that just happens from time to time.
It would probably be a lot simpler if we were all just pansexually polyamorous (note: joke)
Well if your lovers are okay with it then more birds to shag and possible threesomes or group sexes. =P ...what?
Are you kidding me?
No, really, are you trying to be funny right now?
Men should not have more than one wife. It's not fair to have any more. What polygamy says is "Oh, yeah, you can cheat so long as you marry the other woman and no one will do a thing about it". It's not right, and it encourages men to think women are less than them. It's not right.
No, really, are you trying to be funny right now?
Men should not have more than one wife. It's not fair to have any more. What polygamy says is "Oh, yeah, you can cheat so long as you marry the other woman and no one will do a thing about it". It's not right, and it encourages men to think women are less than them. It's not right.
I'm agreeing with the thought of yeah, jealousy in this culture makes sure that a monogamous relationship is hard enough to keep, let alone a polygamous relationship.
So..yeah...that'a my thoughts on that n.n
So..yeah...that'a my thoughts on that n.n
If only, single child I am afraid.Quiet Stranger said:
On topic though to those who are saying "Why bother with second best" or it's male dominance this may be the case in some relationships but I can say from my family that it's more a matter of all three of them loving each other. Although they're not all legally married they're quite happy loving each other. As long as you take into consideration the feelings of all three (Or more!) parties I see no problem with it. Also threesomes AMIRITE?
Nothing, for me it's more a question of how to ascertain consent. What happens in a lot of the polygamist communities is akin to serious brain washing and a lot of abuse goes on.
I actually have quite a few peer reviewed articles on it as proof, but 1.) They're hard copies and 2.) I don't feel like rummaging through the massive, bulging package in which I hoard all of my old school papers in order to settle an internet debate.Billion Backs said:
Divorced parents fuck kids up, that's true whether or not they're monogamous or polygamous. What I'm saying is that a lasting monogamous relationship is beneficial to the child. Even if it's just a front, and the parents are actually seeing other people and not truly in the relationship and are faking, it has been proven that children who grow up in such an environment generally become more balanced, stable, and able to hold onto relationships of their own.
Again, your bias is showing. While marriage doesn't always work out, a significant number of marriages DO stick, and lead to a lifetime of stability and happiness. My grandparents were married for close to 60 years before one of them died, and my parents have been married for twenty five years, and both couples are/were happy in their relationships, still in love with their spouse, and content with their life choices, and I know a large number of other couples who are able to manage just as well. Marriage takes a HUGE amount of work, but it can be beneficial if it's something that can make you happy. That's why I don't believe polygamous relationships can work out; you spread yourself out, one day favoring one spouse or another, hidden resentment and jealousy builds, bad things happen. Just like with regular marriage, only you have to deal with the person with whom you're jealous of on a daily basis while they think everything is fine.
And I have never run into a parent who has not cared about their child. I find it unlikely that something like that can be common, as parents are genetically hard-wired to love their spawn and value their survival. I'm not saying they don't exist, but they're probably such a small percentage that they shouldn't count in such a discussion.
And I'm not sure what you're talking about. Were you one of the smug assholes on the thread about what you'd do if you met god? If so, the mods probably just agreed with me about the way you were acting more than your personal beliefs or, since I was already on probation, didn't see my actions enough to bring out the ban hammer. You were insulting other people for their personal beliefs, if I remember correctly, and I'm not sorry for the way I acted.
God, damn it, I actually wrote a wall of text. WHYYY
This, which is a flawed assumption. Never gonna be equal. If you are talking polygamy as far as a marriage, where both are completely devoted to each other, you can't be completely devoted equally among more than one.Quiet Stranger said:
If you're talking sex and other fun times with lots of people with low commitment, with maybe one who is and is "okay" with the others (good luck on that one); it can probably work alright.
From a gene pool stanpoint, I guess it works, but then you're just talking about multiple sex/mating partners, not necessarily marriage.
From a religious standpoint, "marriage" and polygamy would be defined by that religion.
Civilly, it is for essentially extending next of kin rights to non-blood relatives. Polygammy would afford a very large opprotunity to abuse such a system.
Depends on culture and religion, but even when it's accepted, having multiple wives looks very, very bad if you can't take good care of all of them equally.
Morally:Nothing.
Legally: That's one hell of a bill if you plan on covering all the possible complexities.
Legally: That's one hell of a bill if you plan on covering all the possible complexities.