What's wrong with prostitution?

[Spacelord]

I see absolutely no problems with prostitution. Then again, I'm Dutch.

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage. No doubt there will be people who will argue that marriage is not needed and that sex is just for entertainment and reproduction, but this is simply not the case. Marriage and the family unit are some of the most important aspects of any society: take a high-school level sociology class to figure that one out. We've already desecrated and destroyed marriage enough: legal prostitution would only serve to further destroy the family unit and destabilize a society that is already suffering.

Holy shit! are you implying that legalising prostitution will actually destroy life as we know it? That's like the most retardedly bold claim I've ever heard.

I got another one: there is a correlation between number of gay people per year and nuclear meltdowns in power plants! Look it up, it's true! We're all fucked!

 

[tkioz]

(Most) Prostitution is RAPE

I just can't get around the fact a lot of the people claim prostitution is a "victimless crime" when they need to understand prostitution is basically rape in a lot, and I'd personally the majority, of cases (not that I can back up the majority part, I don't have numbers).

Okay here's a question, man attacks, holds down, and has sex with a woman against her will, clear cut rape right? (If you said no you're a dirty scumbag that I hope meets his end shortly)

Now, take the same man, same women, only now the man has a gun, unless the woman has sex with him he'll shoot her, is it rape? Yes!

The same thing is done a lot in prostitution, the woman (or man, it does happen to men, but I'll just keep using the female pronoun rather then he/she) in question has a choice between a) having sex with a stranger or b) getting the crap kicked out of her by her pimp or c) going hungry or having her family go hungry.

It's still a form of coercion, just not as overt as the gun metaphor. And that's not even taking into account the women sold into mother-fucking slavery in some countries out there.

Having sex with a prostitute is more then likely (I'd say something like 99 times out of 100) rape in today's world.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are prostitutes out there that are willing and not forced into it, by either a 3rd party or economic problems, and more power too them, their body do with it what they will. But those men and women are the vast vast vast minority.

Contrary to what you might think after what you've read above, I'm actually in favour of legalising prostitution, after all criminalising it hasn't been effective at shutting it down, there is a demand so a black market has risen to fill the demand, however in order for legalisation to be an effective solution you need to regulate the hell out of it, placing protection for the prostitutes as the highest priority and cracking down unmercifully on pimps (one of the lowest forms of scum around, just above paedophiles on my personal ladder of people who need to die a horrible death).

Incidentally the same approach would work well on illicit narcotics. Let's face it, there is a reason they call prostitution the "World's oldest profession", it's been around forever and not going anywhere, the only way to make things better is to regulate it.

Think it over people.

 

[tofulove]

I see absolutely no problems with prostitution. Then again, I'm Dutch.

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage. No doubt there will be people who will argue that marriage is not needed and that sex is just for entertainment and reproduction, but this is simply not the case. Marriage and the family unit are some of the most important aspects of any society: take a high-school level sociology class to figure that one out. We've already desecrated and destroyed marriage enough: legal prostitution would only serve to further destroy the family unit and destabilize a society that is already suffering.

Holy shit! are you implying that legalising prostitution will actually destroy life as we know it? That's like the most retardedly bold claim I've ever heard.

I got another one: there is a correlation between number of gay people per year and nuclear meltdowns in power plants! Look it up, it's true! We're all fucked!

hes ether a really good troll, or a really religions nut that some how forgot video games are the devil.

also i got a some evidence that debunks your gay theory, there were no nuclear techolgy let alone melt downs in the roman and pre roman times were homosexuality was accepted and in many cases a honorable thing.

 

[Enkidu88]

Prostitution isn't the greatest of professions, and I don't think the world would be lessened if prostitution didn't exist, but the government needs to accept that fact that it does exist and there's really nothing they can do to stop it. Making it illegal simply drives it underground and makes it far more dangerous for all parties involved. If made legal than alot more safety measures could be taken, like standard STD testing and have bouncers or similar security staff to make sure the prostitutes remain safe. Making it legal would also allow people to declare it on tax returns, and maybe actually spend it on legitimate commodities as opposed to now where most illegal prostitution rings are mainly run by criminal organizations.

The fundamental problem - when we abstract from sets of morals thought by religions - is that being able to pay for sex trivializes it. Why form a meaningful relationship if you can just get some sex for money and call it a day?

It doesn't really trivialize sex anymore than when people go to a bar, get blind drunk and then have sex before parting ways and never seeing each other again. People need to stop thinking Sex is the end-all point of a relationship. Sure sex itself is great, but simple sex with a prostitute won't substitute the emotional bonds that you form with a committed partner, which enhances the entire experience in my opinion.

 

[Thaius]

I see absolutely no problems with prostitution. Then again, I'm Dutch.

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage. No doubt there will be people who will argue that marriage is not needed and that sex is just for entertainment and reproduction, but this is simply not the case. Marriage and the family unit are some of the most important aspects of any society: take a high-school level sociology class to figure that one out. We've already desecrated and destroyed marriage enough: legal prostitution would only serve to further destroy the family unit and destabilize a society that is already suffering.

Holy shit! are you implying that legalising prostitution will actually destroy life as we know it? That's like the most retardedly bold claim I've ever heard.

I got another one: there is a correlation between number of gay people per year and nuclear meltdowns in power plants! Look it up, it's true! We're all fucked!

Like I said, the importance of the family unit is an incredibly important aspect of societal order: basic sociology. Deny it if you want, but it's true. Prostitution won't single-handedly "destroy life as we know it," but it sure as heck won't help. In a society where we already value sex over actual relationships, prostitution has screwed up plenty of families already in its illegal state. Legalized, that number would climb drastically, and would probably also lower the number of people getting married in the first place.

The destruction of the family unit would be a huge blow to society: it's a sociological fact. And prostitution wouldn't do it alone, but it would be a pretty big step.

 

['Aredor]

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage.

How so? You think that suddenly people will think "I don't have to marry anyone, I can have sex with prostitutes for the rest of my life"? If you think sex is the only reason one would marry someone, that's very sad. "You know honey, I don't love you and I actually don't even want to be with you, but it was the only way for me to get sex on a regular basis"

EDIT:

In a society where we already value sex over actual relationships, prostitution has screwed up plenty of families already in its illegal state. Legalized, that number would climb drastically, and would probably also lower the number of people getting married in the first place.

Ah, destroy marriages because the husband goes and visits a prostitute? But isn't the marriage already destroyed at that point? Would it be any better if he went to a neighbor or their son's teacher instead of a prostitute?

 

[Crazy_Bird]

Well, in some European countries (as well as my own) prostitution is legal and I think that is actually quite good. It makes everything a little more controllable and some brothels have their own medical staff and are well organized and care properly for the women.

Pimping is yet strictly forbidden. It is important to distinguish between pimping and prostitution.

 

[tofulove]

The same thing is done a lot in prostitution, the woman (or man, it does happen to men, but I'll just keep using the female pronoun rather then he/she) in question has a choice between a) having sex with a stranger or b) getting the crap kicked out of her by her pimp or c) going hungry or having her family go hungry.

debunk time, legalizing it will solve B in many to most cases, A is her/his job, C is why people have jobs, is it rape for me to hire a person to fix my fence, sure isnt, as long as she or doesn't have a B, she/he made a choice to have a job were she/he has sex with random people that way she/he has money to avoid C same reason why any one gets a job, to avoid C.

legalization also solves alot of D aka std's by regulating it you also can make johns use condoms and make the workers get reguler std checks, and dont forget E prevent unwanted sex aka rape, not being paid aka being riped off, and being kidnapped and murdered.

Think it over people.

 

[Smudge91]

I agree with prostitution when it is regulated and the customers are checked through a viable agency and the girl is free to leave the proffession when she wishes. Like the real Belle de Jour says isn't it safer to have sex with someone you know is safe, because of vetting, or having drunken one night stands where anything could happen.
However when the girls or guys are forced into it through gang and crime then i disagree with it. By having prostitution as a taboo its easier for gangs and mobs to control prostitues who some are rather naive and don't know what they are getting themselves into.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

Prostitution is like abortion.

Wow, not gonna touch that one with a ten foot pole lol. Let the controversy begin!

OT: I think it should be legal. Women are doing it right now anyways, but they are drug addicts with abusive pimps and live on the streets and contract diseases and eventually die.

Legalizing it would allow the women to do it in a legitimate way. I'd think of it less as prostitution and more of a classy, disease free escort service.

I mean give me a break they have "safe injection sites" all over north america for drug addicts yet drugs are still illegal. Why not offer "safe sex sites" for prostitution?
Same damn difference.

 

[GoldenRaz]

The fundamental problem - when we abstract from "religious sets" of morals which just say it's utterly wrong because God(s) say so - is that being able to pay for sex trivializes it. Why form a meaningful relationship if you can just get some sex for money and call it a day?

I don't know if you would call something a "meaningful" relationship if all that you get from it is sex. If the only reason for you to seek out relationships is to have some sex, then any potential relationship rapidly looses its meaning.

The point that I want to make is that being able to have sex at any time doesn't detract from any given person's search for - for lack of a better word - 'love'. And a suitable mate that you want to have children with.

As an aside; I don't understand the difference between prostitution and porn. I mean, it's people getting paid to have sex, only in porn it gets caught on tape.
I can imagine that it's either not that simple, or that I've just found a really simple loophole through it all.

 

[Tigbun]

Honestly it seems to be a decent venture to invest in. Because given time the moral fabric of our land will break down eventually and who ever has money can make more by setting up the brothels.

 

[FungTheDestroy]

Prostitution is like abortion.

Wow, not gonna touch that one with a ten foot pole lol. Let the controversy begin!

Woah there! Read the next sentence there before you quote! They both have to do with a woman's RIGHT to have CONTROL over her own body! Make either illegal and you STRIP the woman of CONTROL over her own LIFE!!!!

Is the Controvery that abortion and the pill are not the Woman's right, but the baby's? Or is it the Gods' rights? That would make more sense! NOW the controversy can start to bubble, then stop because we all realize it's not worth arguing here on the boards.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

Prostitution is like abortion.

Wow, not gonna touch that one with a ten foot pole lol. Let the controversy begin!

Woah there! Read the next sentence there before you quote! They both have to do with a woman's RIGHT to have CONTROL over her own body! Make either illegal and you STRIP the woman of CONTROL over her own LIFE!!!!

Is the Controvery that abortion and the pill are not the Woman's right, but the baby's? Or is it the Gods' rights? That would make more sense! NOW the controversy can start to bubble, then stop because we all realize it's not worth arguing here on the boards.

Oh I read the whole thing. Didn't say I disagreed with you either. Just saying the sentence
"Prostituion is like abortion" is probably gonna turn some heads lol.
So calm down! Same team!

 

[JaredXE]

The fundamental problem - when we abstract from "religious sets" of morals which just say it's utterly wrong because God(s) say so - is that being able to pay for sex trivializes it. Why form a meaningful relationship if you can just get some sex for money and call it a day?

Because we as a species still need people for other, non-sexual, relationships. A person who is at the stage of life where they are looking to settle down and form an intimate, life-long connection with someone isn't likely to pay a prostitute. A young and/or non-settled person will.

That said, sex is still a HUGE part in forming relationships. Is the the most important, no. But it is in the top three. This applies to both partners, of either gender. Sexual frustration while in a commited relationship is just begging for release. If your sweetie isn't going to give you any, maybe a legal outlet is required. And if your partner doesn't like that, well then they know what they need to start doing.

 

[tkioz]

The same thing is done a lot in prostitution, the woman (or man, it does happen to men, but I'll just keep using the female pronoun rather then he/she) in question has a choice between a) having sex with a stranger or b) getting the crap kicked out of her by her pimp or c) going hungry or having her family go hungry.

debunk time, legalizing it will solve B in many to most cases, A is her/his job, C is why people have jobs, is it rape for me to hire a person to fix my fence, sure isnt, as long as she or doesn't have a B, she/he made a choice to have a job were she/he has sex with random people that way she/he has money to avoid C same reason why any one gets a job, to avoid C.

legalization also solves alot of D aka std's by regulating it you also can make johns use condoms and make the workers get reguler std checks, and dont forget E prevent unwanted sex aka rape, not being paid aka being riped off, and being kidnapped and murdered.

Think it over people.

Don't quote me if you don't read my entire post, I am in favour of legalisation, my statement is on the current state of prostitution.

As for your fence analogy, that's total bullshit, yes sex is physical, but what about forcing people to give blood? how about undergoing unneeded medical tests and experiments? that's a lot closer to forced sex, it's the forced exploitation of his or her body against their will.

 

[vasudean]

I really don't take a look at prostitution, drugs, or anything touchy from a moral standpoint, (except abortion. Of course I still have practical reasons why I'm against it) I mainly look at it from a practical point of view. My reasons are that it would be hard to control to spread of STDs, the fact that some men have sadistic sexual appetites, and the fact that there's the problem with that some women are forced into it by asshole pimps or drugs or both *shoots random pimp repeatedly even when I ran out of ammo 5 minutes ago*. However, if prostitution's legalized and rigidly controlled with the women checked out every week and paid and treated fairly, then I won't complain much.

 

[Thaius]

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage.

How so? You think that suddenly people will think "I don't have to marry anyone, I can have sex with prostitutes for the rest of my life"? If you think sex is the only reason one would marry someone, that's very sad. "You know honey, I don't love you and I actually don't even want to be with you, but it was the only way for me to get sex on a regular basis"

I most definitely do not believe that sex is the only reason to marry, or even a primary reason. But there are a lot of people who do: as I said, our society is largely based around sex now. Beyond that, the divorce rate shows that people would rather just take the easy way out instead of trying to work things out in a struggling marriage, resulting in many broken families: you think legalizing prostitution would aid faithfulness? It would just make it easier for someone in a struggling marriage to find temporary pleasure in someone else's arms: I hardly call that beneficial to the family unit.

EDIT:

In a society where we already value sex over actual relationships, prostitution has screwed up plenty of families already in its illegal state. Legalized, that number would climb drastically, and would probably also lower the number of people getting married in the first place.

Ah, destroy marriages because the husband goes and visits a prostitute? But isn't the marriage already destroyed at that point? Would it be any better if he went to a neighbor or their son's teacher instead of a prostitute?

But legalizing prostitution would only open more options. It would be bad no matter who a spouse sleeps with, but you really think it would help to make one of the options easier for them?

As for the marriage, someone cheating doesn't necessarily mean the marriage is destroyed. Usually it's because people aren't willing to work out their problems: marriages are rarely destroyed until someone makes a mistake because of the problems in the marriage. The problems themselves are only the beginning, but they can be worked through if the couple is willing. If not, they turn to other means of escape: such as prostitution. And the legalization of it would only make that easier. Can you honestly tell me this is a good thing?

 

[tofulove]

I see absolutely no problems with prostitution. Then again, I'm Dutch.

Besides the spread of STDs, it would be yet another step in destroying the institution of marriage. No doubt there will be people who will argue that marriage is not needed and that sex is just for entertainment and reproduction, but this is simply not the case. Marriage and the family unit are some of the most important aspects of any society: take a high-school level sociology class to figure that one out. We've already desecrated and destroyed marriage enough: legal prostitution would only serve to further destroy the family unit and destabilize a society that is already suffering.

Holy shit! are you implying that legalising prostitution will actually destroy life as we know it? That's like the most retardedly bold claim I've ever heard.

I got another one: there is a correlation between number of gay people per year and nuclear meltdowns in power plants! Look it up, it's true! We're all fucked!

Like I said, the importance of the family unit is an incredibly important aspect of societal order: basic sociology. Deny it if you want, but it's true. Prostitution won't single-handedly "destroy life as we know it," but it sure as heck won't help. In a society where we already value sex over actual relationships, prostitution has screwed up plenty of families already in its illegal state. Legalized, that number would climb drastically, and would probably also lower the number of people getting married in the first place.

The destruction of the family unit would be a huge blow to society: it's a sociological fact. And prostitution wouldn't do it alone, but it would be a pretty big step.

did you know prostitution has bin threatening family values, i mean wow i never new such a thing that's bin around as long or even longer than family units would destroy it, its almost as if people in the last few thousand years manage over all to keep family even under the relentless assault of immoral sex. i mean now you think society like the Greeks Persians and Romans would of dissolved and fall over night by the century's of casual sex there society tolerated. but some how were able to last intell one took over the other intell the great moral force of monotheism came along to clean things up and throw us into dark ages.