What's wrong with the new Doctor Who?
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I find it rather odd that people are saying that they don't like the new Doctor Who for being too happy, goody-goody and filled with people that all love the Doctor. Clearly, they haven't even been watching it, because, it has gone all the more the total opposite of all these things since Matt Smith came on the scene.
Personally, I love the new style the show has taken on leagues better than before. Pre-Moffat was... painful. Embarrassingly-cheesy, most of the time. Now, the stories are more complex and imaginative. And to those that think that the Matt Smith Doctor has been spending far too many of his episodes on Earth, I say again... "watch the show". It's amazing how people's opinions can be formed, based of stuff that never actually happened.
Personally, I love the new style the show has taken on leagues better than before. Pre-Moffat was... painful. Embarrassingly-cheesy, most of the time. Now, the stories are more complex and imaginative. And to those that think that the Matt Smith Doctor has been spending far too many of his episodes on Earth, I say again... "watch the show". It's amazing how people's opinions can be formed, based of stuff that never actually happened.
I knew it before I saw that article. I said at the end of the post you quoted that I knew that Amy and Rory would be leaving, that Moffat said that in that coming episode, one of them would die and he means it this time.ThePS1Fan said:
I saw it in an article that was talking about the new companion and said death to come. It will have something to do with the Weeping Angels.
He is way too pleased with himself, when he gets things done is way too smug. DOn't get me wrong I love DOctor Who, BUT my god I want to beat him to death with his bow-tie at times.
That and also the third wheel... Rory... /sigh
Just....
/sigh
That and also the third wheel... Rory... /sigh
Just....
/sigh
Sorry, how is Rory a third wheel? He's the one who married Amy, and a lot of people find the addition of a married couple on the TARDIS interesting, especially since we've been able to see the relationship grow. Now, I'm not the biggest fan of Amy, and I dislike a lot of things about last season, but I disagree that Rory is a third wheel. I do think he should have gotten some character focus, though.VoidWanderer said:
I don't know. The episode where Amy became trapped in the past was pretty dark for me. It was pretty standard until they start asking the questions like "How can we save one Amy without dooming the other?" and the answer being pretty much "We can't".Zachary Amaranth said:
Some of the other episodes have been a bit "ehhh" but I would never say it's because they were asinine or just badly written but more that they're just not as good as the others.
OT: Reasons why though... people just don't like change. That's all I can think of. Can't understand why people don't like Amy though. She's definitely my favourite companion, Martha being my least favourite.
Which is really the exception, rather than the rule. Even episodes with some seriously dark overtones end up having happy endings (The Beast Below is a pretty good example). And while the Amy episode (I think it's called "The Girl Who Waited") was pretty dark, a good chunk of season six was frosting, even while the arc was dealing with the Doctor's death.Stalydan said:
It's not a bad thing. One of my favourite moments of the new series is the confrontation(s) at the end of the Eleventh Hour. But by the end of the season, it got kind of silly. And that doesn't make it bad, either. I think I like Smith more than even Tennant, so I'm not bashing the dude.
Though Series six did bother me in many ways that have more to do with the writing than the actor.
But I digress. Smith good, Doctor Who good, But show too sweet lot of times.
And he's of such import that he gets called "Mr Pond" in what might as well be a case of genre savvy.Flight said:
Excuse me? What's wrong with a husband deciding to take his wife's name? Absolutely nothing. Women are expected to change their names, but if the men happen to make that decision, they're vilified. I have a lot of problems with the way their relationship is treated, but that isn't one of them. Aside from token joking around, Rory doesn't appear to mind being "Mr. Pond" in the least.Zachary Amaranth said:
One of the things I don't like about Amy was a bit of intial `Blagh, pretty girl fancies Doctor, what else is new?`, that's why Donna was my favourite companion. Also, this may sound pretty shallow but I didn't think Amy fancying this Doctor was that believable, I just dont think Matt Smith is attractive. That may be kind of harsh of me though.Stalydan said:
Martha was my least favourite too, though. She was just kind of a doormat for the Doctor, they could have done better things with her.
I have to agree with you there. I think the revived series reached it's peak during series 2/3 (Although personally Christopher Eccleston remains my favourite Doctor) whereas series 4 was a big disapointment for me. The 2009 specials were great though. The newest series though? Eugh. In my opinion series 6 had only three properly good episodes(Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon/The God Complex, if you're wondering)JasonKaotic said:
Steven Moffat.
Period.
Matt Smith works as the Doctor when Moffat doesn't screw him over. He wrote on great episode and made Captain Jack but then proceeded to break his own cannon and belabored two seasons on how Amy is special and the whole thing with River. They never should have explained River's background in the manner that they did. Rory was a great character that is always awesome, so long as Amy's not around to make him a sniveling coward. Heck, so much about the last two seasons is solved with either "the power of love" or "universal memory" by Amy while the Doctor and Rory do the majority of the work. At least the Bad Wolf plotline was a one-time Deux Ex and not the recurring mess that Moffat wrote.
Period.
Matt Smith works as the Doctor when Moffat doesn't screw him over. He wrote on great episode and made Captain Jack but then proceeded to break his own cannon and belabored two seasons on how Amy is special and the whole thing with River. They never should have explained River's background in the manner that they did. Rory was a great character that is always awesome, so long as Amy's not around to make him a sniveling coward. Heck, so much about the last two seasons is solved with either "the power of love" or "universal memory" by Amy while the Doctor and Rory do the majority of the work. At least the Bad Wolf plotline was a one-time Deux Ex and not the recurring mess that Moffat wrote.
The same problem I have with all the Dr. Who's, the doc always wins. Where is the suspense and the excitement if you know nothing is in actual peril?
It is like being told the score of a football game then watching it, you know who won and not knowing is what makes it worth watching. Sure the "how" is okay but it's hollow if you know the end result.
Plus the cheese! It has to be the most corny thing I have ever witnessed, I haven't seen all the baddies but they are either adorable (adipose), fucking useless (daleks) or just comical (slitheen) ... ok, I have seen one baddies that was awesome, the mechanical dudes wearing Victorian clothes and white masks.
Every set looks cheap and just lacking, it looks like the crystal maze! They could be part of the charm but it is off putting.
It is like being told the score of a football game then watching it, you know who won and not knowing is what makes it worth watching. Sure the "how" is okay but it's hollow if you know the end result.
Plus the cheese! It has to be the most corny thing I have ever witnessed, I haven't seen all the baddies but they are either adorable (adipose), fucking useless (daleks) or just comical (slitheen) ... ok, I have seen one baddies that was awesome, the mechanical dudes wearing Victorian clothes and white masks.
Every set looks cheap and just lacking, it looks like the crystal maze! They could be part of the charm but it is off putting.
I've been trying to find the proper words to explain why I dislike Smith so much, and I think this sums it up better than I ever could. Self-righteous and arrogant rather than witty and confident. Thank you.Freezy_Breezy said:
He might've gained some character/backbone in the later seasons, but early on he is the weak-willed character who tries to gain control of a situation by complaining and questioning everything. If he went with Amy at the beginning then he might have been fine, but he doesn't trust the woman he loves because of the Doctor...Flight said:
I prefer Matt Smiths geeky, morally questionable doctor, but I think Tennant was a far better actor.
I hated Martha when she was the Doctor's companion because at first she was so fucking stuck on herself and didn't really seem to give a shit about the people around her and then suddenly she was all in love with the Doctor and got all hurt when he fell the other chick in in that Family of Blood deal. She became a much better character in her later guest appearances and her guest appearances in Torchwood though, and then at the end of Tennant's run was married to Mickey.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
Except he didn't, so you seem to be getting offended for nothing.Flight said:
But really, he was only important in 99% of cases because he was Amy's boy. They frequently made him comic relief to precisely that end. Which, I might add, is evident even in that "token joking around."
Rory gets a few moments to shine, but he's usually there because Amy and really little reason that would justify anything more than a background character. Additionallt, this is one of the reasons they keep killing him.
Martha is "Not Rose." That's her biggest crime. the same way Smith is "Not Tennant."Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
I like Martha. The subplot wasn't all that big a deal, and she actually justified her presence in the TARDIS. I prefer Donna, who was annoying but had the best character arc of all the modern companions.