What's your controversial opinion?

[tycho0042]

the people who died in the planes in 9/11 had it coming except the ones that fought back.

I bet all the money I've ever had in my entire life you would have stayed right in your seat the entire team and quite possibly pissed yourself. It's easy to say you'd be a hero, almost impossible to be one.

So you're seriously, honestly, actually saying that a four year old kid, a pregnant woman, an eighty year old grandma, a handicapped person and countless others that for some reason aren't masters of hand-to-hand combat and in peak physical condition deserved to have died for not fighting back?

Well alright then.

You don't have to be a master of hand to hand combat in peak physical condition to stand up and do the right thing.
And while I have not had the misfortune to have my convictions tested I at least HOPE that I am willing to TRY and fight back against assholes with knives. If it were guns or explosives they were wielding it's another matter as those have a chance to destroy the whole plane with them going off. While unfortunate that children and elderly were caught in the majority of the people were of a decent age to stand up and not a one did anything. It's not like they hijacked a plane full of invalids here.

 

[Arkynomicon]

I think wiping out 75% of the human population would solve a lot of our problems.

It probably would.

However, no problem that we currently face is great enough that wiping out 75% of the human population is preferable to just living with the problem until we find another solution.

Sure, provided we ever find those solutions.

Even if we do not find a solution, unless the problem will result in the death of more than 75% of the population, living with the problem is preferable.

Death is the ultimate price and should only be used if it is the only way to prevent more death.

The death of 75% of the current population is preferable to potential extinction with the current human trend.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

the people who died in the planes in 9/11 had it coming except the ones that fought back.

I bet all the money I've ever had in my entire life you would have stayed right in your seat the entire team and quite possibly pissed yourself. It's easy to say you'd be a hero, almost impossible to be one.

So you're seriously, honestly, actually saying that a four year old kid, a pregnant woman, an eighty year old grandma, a handicapped person and countless others that for some reason aren't masters of hand-to-hand combat and in peak physical condition deserved to have died for not fighting back?

Well alright then.

You don't have to be a master of hand to hand combat in peak physical condition to stand up and do the right thing.
And while I have not had the misfortune to have my convictions tested I at least HOPE that I am willing to TRY and fight back against assholes with knives. If it were guns or explosives they were wielding it's another matter as those have a chance to destroy the whole plane with them going off. While unfortunate that children and elderly were caught in the majority of the people were of a decent age to stand up and not a one did anything. It's not like they hijacked a plane full of invalids here.

Okay, so a bunch of people get on your plane with knives. They might just be robbing it for all you know, and you aren't taking a shiv to the kidney for fucking American Airlines or whatever, so you stay in your seat. And the average person, going up against an armed opponent in decent physical condition, would get killed or seriously wounded almost immediately.

 

[Darth_Murmeltier]

I think that art, music and other creative subjects are more important that stuff like science and maths.

Yes, I can totally agree with you! I mean science and math aren't bad things at all, without them we would be still stuck in the stone age. But creativity is good for the "soul" if you know what I mean.

Also I think that our meat consumption should be limited or rationed. We eat so much meat it's insane! It's not good for us and neither for our enviroment.

 

[lord.jeff]

We should get rid of cemeteries, they're a pointless waste of space, I'm all for respecting the dead but not when it prevents us from using the space to build things we need.

 

[AlAaraaf74]

I'm pro-choice. If a woman wants to get an abortion, it is her decision. I mean, what if she was raped, why should she be forced to give birth to a child she doesn't want? Or what if she is a teenager or too poor and can't properly care for the child?

 

[Folksoul]

The extreme restrictions/abolishment of marijuana and alcohol is a good thing. just a small local example...
Where I live there have been 3 murders at high school parties in the last two years and dozens of students are maimed in traffic accidents because "they were having fun"(stunt driving while high/drunk) almost every semester. High school + narcotics ≠ fun.

One girl had her neck slit from behind because her boyfriend's ex was jealous. Cocaine and vodka. 2 years ago
A boy was pushed into the fire and trampled at a bush party. Beer and MJ. Last year
*LAST WEEK* A boy in a neighbouring town was repeatedly stabbed at a bush party and died in the emergency room of internal bleeding.
The murder's defence was "I was too drunk to know what I was doing".

 

[RabbidKuriboh]

I LIKED the star wars prequels

 

[BigHairyMarty]

I think that Wonderwall is one of the very worst songs in existence.

 

[Johnny Impact]

Greatly in favor of capital punishment.

Every garden has weeds. This is natural. However, weeds do not get nurtured. They do not get removed to a special little plot of their own. They do not get counseling, or a second chance. What they get is pulled and discarded. Without hesitation, undue expense, or remorse on the part of the gardener.

People are not equal. We have equal rights but we are not equal. Some of us are just plain scum. You can make any argument you like about how they got that way -- poverty, bad upbringing, doesn't matter. The point is there are people out there who are like rabid dogs. They will steal, rape, kill on the spur of the moment. It's how they live. It's what they are. No amount of incarceration, counseling, or medication will fix these scumbags because they don't think they need to be fixed. They will never rehabilitate. You can lock them up for ten years but they'll be out in two -- overcrowding, don'tcha know -- back among us for more rape and murder.

Pull the weed.

Concerned about crime rates? Consider: For crime to decline the fear of punishment must be greater than the desire to commit crime. Crime will go down when scumbags understand they will fucking die if they are caught. Yes, they'll also be made more desperate. But it'll cut way down on repeat offenses. Furthermore, those who are merely contemplating the scumbag way of life will be likely to reconsider.

Death row? Gone. When you are sentenced to death you are taken out behind the courthouse and shot. Immediately. No appeal, no lengthy incarceration, no hideous cost to the taxpayers, no risk that you'll somehow get released to inflict more madness on the rest of us.

We can also use this principle to do away with prison overcrowding. No room for more inmates? Take the worst ten percent -- those with the longest sentences, the most heinous crimes -- and just kill 'em. Don't whine to me about their rights. How are they in there in the first place? They had no respect for the rights of others. To quote Dennis Miller, "They broke the law. They shouldn't get to use it."

Let me specify before everyone goes crazy that I'm talking about serious crimes only. The degree of harm inflicted, and the number of people harmed, certainly matter. Jaywalkers should not be sentenced to death. But murder someone? You're gone. Attempted murder? We don't need you. Manslaughter? Depends on circumstances. I'd also throw in the kind of "mass victim" crime the Enron pricks committed. Count every dollar they stole, every minute of the future promised to their every victim, the sheer magnitude of the carpet they yanked from beneath the people who trusted them. It's worth far more than one human life. Technically legal? Fuck you. Gone.

 

[ComprehensiveGoo]

I don't like Call of Duty and believe the Sun revolves around the Earth.

 

[Your once and future Fanboy]

well, im anti-religion to the point that i've argued with preist...in church! but i am against all things that hinder intelectual reason, religion just happens to be the biggest obsticle to common sense.

Im gonna get flamed for this, but i belive that everywhere the black and brown people have control over a larger populous than 50-100 people, it will most likely go to hell. Just look at South-Africa, Libya and in South-America. You have powerty, corruption, genocide, rape, child labor and a general miss-use of power. Just look at the case with Gadaffi if you don't belive me! And he isn't one in a million either.

I belive that white people have better inclanation to build and function in larger societies. Look at democracy, industry, the scientific method, philosophy, international laws of war and conflict, underground sewer systems, better adjusting to being a part of larger groups (something that wheren't normal for our early societies in Africa, we would be more likely to lash out violently when emotionaly and mentaly stressed because we wheren't designed to live like that).

It's not a coincidence!
So when it comes to that part of humanity, I belive there IS a "evolutionary" difference between the first man in Africa and the caucasian man up in the north.

Of course Im not saying that makes one supperior than the other, and I am not a rasist!
I repeat, I AM NOT A RASIST!

 

[MartianWarMachine]

I believe that being human is a crippling flaw that must be corrected.

Flesh is weak.
It must be purged.
Etc.

 

[Da Orky Man]

I believe that being human is a crippling flaw that must be corrected.

Flesh is weak.
It must be purged.
Etc.

I'm going to presume that you know that that is a quote from the Adeptus Mechanicus.

 

[Johnny Impact]

But onto my controversial opinion:

I believe that both religion and science are both right about the creation of the universe. IE: God would use evolution in creating the universe. (This doesn't seam that bad to me, but some people get pissy about my opinion...)

Listen to what sane person says.

Science and religion are not mutually exclusive. Each side is eminently fond of the straw man argument it uses to attack the other. Each side demonstrates poor understanding of itself and its chosen opposition.

Science is a tool for understanding the universe. One of the most basic rules of science is that of improving the tool over time: any principle, no matter how basic, can be disproven or modified any time the evidence calls for it. Take light, for instance. It was once thought to be instantaneous. Then it was proven to have a definite, measurable speed. That light behaves as both particles and waves simultaneously (don't know the science, forgive any inaccuracy) seemed impossible but it is indeed the case. A true scientist would be the first to state that while science may someday collect evidence pointing to the probability of a supreme being, no amount of science can ever disprove God. All we can say is, "We haven't found anything conclusive."

Now for the religious side. The Bible was written by man, not God. Divinely inspired, perhaps, but written by man. Man is fallible, opinionated, and very limited in his understanding of the universe. If a supreme being had told man thousands of years ago that the points of light in the night sky were balls of fusing hydrogen, billions of years old, billions of miles away, do you think primitive man could have handled that? What about dinosaurs? God didn't bother explaining that stuff because it didn't have any relevance to his message and man wouldn't have understood anyway. He communicated to man in terms that man could understand at the time: fire, blood, sacrifice, love, judgement, et cetera. This does not mean the dinosaurs never existed, nor will it ever mean that, no matter how vigorously the fundamentalists scream and wave their hands.

 

[CrazyMedic]

I believe that every single thing in this world should be free (food, clothes, cars, medical care, houses, etc...), we should do away with money, and have all people on the planet work for no pay (well, all the free stuff would kind of be pay).

As a child I always thought that this solution would solve all issues human beings could ever face.

what about land and things that can't be reproduced like an original Jackie Robinson baseball card.

OT: humanity will never evolve out of our need for murder and pretending otherwise is ignoring history.

 

[Da Orky Man]

I think that Niccolo Machiavelli was right, at least in a broad sense.
Continuing from that, I think that people who don't believe that "The ends justify the means" are incredibly selfish. Say that you had to kill a child soldier to prevent a bomb being set off in the middle of London/Washington/Moscow, or anywhere with a large concentration of people. Would you honestly allow hundreds of people to die just to allow your conscience to be clean?

 

[MartianWarMachine]

I believe that being human is a crippling flaw that must be corrected.

Flesh is weak.
It must be purged.
Etc.

I'm going to presume that you know that that is a quote from the Adeptus Mechanicus.

...I did not know that. I mean, I play Warhammer, I know that the Adeptus Mechanicus is a bunch of "people" that worship technology, but I didn't know that that was one of their quotes.

I stand by it, though. Anyone who accepts the human condition as normal is mad, in my eyes.

Can I have my metal flesh now, please?

 

[The Funslinger]

I think that Niccolo Machiavelli was right, at least in a broad sense.
Continuing from that, I think that people who don't believe that "The ends justify the means" are incredibly selfish. Say that you had to kill a child soldier to prevent a bomb being set off in the middle of London/Washington/Moscow, or anywhere with a large concentration of people. Would you honestly allow hundreds of people to die just to allow your conscience to be clean?

Fair enough, and I agree. However, it only applies if in the absence of a less, for lack of a better word, cruel solution.

 

[robinkom]

Wow this is a long thread... I wanna contribute to this hysteria as well!

Spoiler: God(s) & Religion(s)

I strongly think that the gods of any and all religions are/were aliens. I get weird looks for it, but it makes way more sense to me than believing there's some omnipotent father-figure in the clouds that judges everything you do. I've seen hints of proof that there are extraterrestrials, I haven't seen shit to indicate there are gods. Religion is all ancient, archaic man-made bullshit to keep naive primitive people under control and submissive. They are a detriment to human progression and fundamentalist belief in this nonsense should be regarded as a psychological disorder. I refuse to accept any of this as fact, there is so much more out there beyond our tiny planet that we can't even fathom.

Spoiler: Spirituality

On the flip side, I believe in spirituality to a degree. I think there is also a higher state of thought and mental awareness that we have yet to tap into with possible links to extraterrestrial crossbreeding of ancient homo-sapiens. The theory is that the extraterrestrials share telepathic links with one another and I believe it may be a recessive trait from millenniums of watered down genetics. I maintain this view based on strong empathetic and intuitiveness in my family down through the generations. We have a way of naturally connecting with people on deeper levels without having to know too much about them. You an say it's a learned skill but none of us had to learn it.

Spoiler: Homosexuality

LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE, YOU FUCKIN' INBRED NEANDERTHALS! A person's sexual identity and orientation DOES NOT dictate the quality of their character. I have a gay cousin that is an English teacher at a local High School and he gets shit from the Principal and the rest of the board just because he's gay. Never mind that he's an outstanding and passionate instructor, oh no, he's just way too flaming. Fuckin' prejudice homophobic assholes. My grandfather, my dad's dad, was gay and he had to hide it way back with that was one of the all-time taboos; had to marry a woman and have a child and deny who he was all that time. That this shit still has to go on today, that some of these people have to hide from the world who they are, is sickening.

Spoiler: American Economy/Politics

This sums it all up for me. A great man I share many similar views with. Someone we lost and no one carries on the message.