whats your SSBB line up?
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A game relying less on talent than other games doesn't mean it requires little. Training and skill makes a world of difference and it's not as random and casual as you may think. Is it hardcore like Street Fighter? No, of course not, but it's not the button-mashing shitstorm you make it out to be.DexterNorgam said:
I sincerely hope you've either never actually put a bit of time into the game and just tried it out a handful of times or that you simply took your opinion from Yahtzee's review. Because while criticizing someone who says it's incredibly competitive would have been understandable (because it's not and has the largest amount of random factors I've ever seen in a fighting game), saying that the game requires little to no skill whatsoever and is the equivalent of a fighting version of mario party is as stupid and ignorant as saying that SSFIV requires no skill because it only requires you to pick Ken and spam shoryuken.
See, there are lots of issues you can bring up with Brawl, especially relative to it's more competitive older brother, but when you bring up button mashing that just means that you have no CLUE what you're talking about.DexterNorgam said:
Only third strike is more resistant to button mashing as an effective strategy (at high levels of play, if you're playing all items on high on port town it's gonna be a lot more effective because so much is happening that distracts from proper punishment).
1. Freedom of movement, because the stages are extremely expansive and you have the ability to play a strong aerial game, it's difficult for the opponent to put you in a situation where you have to actually deal with their mashing, instead you can just wait for them to attack, then attack from one of the angles they can't cover.
2. Low shieldstun, which means that if you hit your opponent's shield haphazardly he will punish you, almost nothing is safe on shield and those that are (minus a few very rare things like jigg's backair) have to be spaced perfectly, otherwise they're not safe.
And then you have things that are common to essentially every fighting game, namely spacing and reading. Frankly sonic can punish a whiffed attack from almost the entire length of final d away.
Melee's even better in that regard, while it has more safe moves, it's movement options are so much more powerful.
So frankly, unless you actually know what you're talking about and understand the mechanics of the game, don't presume to comment how worthy it is of competitive play. The fact that you picked the most laughable object (probably because yahtzee said it about all fighting games, which was wrong anyway) just illustrates how irrationally opposed to it you are. But feel free to attempt to win via button mashing against for example either of these guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDm-rq8gzcI
If you want a real objection, talk about how unbalanced it is.
It's as much a button mash fest as a ken mashing h.shoryuken is.DexterNorgam said:
What I mean is that in low level play no matter what game it is you can pull of that stuff, but when you're acctually good at a game that stuff never works...
Ohwait you're talking about brawl right? Then you are 100% right.
I've been meaning to make a response i could can to "smash = button masher".
Also, it's mainly for the other people on the fence.
Also, it's mainly for the other people on the fence.
Why would anyone complain about balance in this game? ITS TRASH, it doesn't matter if its balanced. In Fact, its NOT balanced because its Not supposed to be taken seriously.AdumbroDeus said:
It would be like complaining about balance in Mario Kart Wii... Pointless, because its not supposed to be taken seriously as a racing game. Just like Smash Bro is not supposed to be taken seriously as a fighter...
They really are the mario party games of thier genres.
1.Diddy Kong
2.Lucario
3.Toon Link
Not many people like Diddy Kong, but once you get used to him he can be quite effective.
2.Lucario
3.Toon Link
Not many people like Diddy Kong, but once you get used to him he can be quite effective.
1. Meta Knight (though I try not to use him as much now)
2. Lucario
3.Kirby
4.Mr. Game and Watch
5. Zero Suit Samus
I generally like quick characters, I used to be really good in boss battles when using ZSS but I've grown a bit rusty and now I can't dodge as much as I used to be able to. The rest I like to use in fights against other characters.
2. Lucario
3.Kirby
4.Mr. Game and Watch
5. Zero Suit Samus
I generally like quick characters, I used to be really good in boss battles when using ZSS but I've grown a bit rusty and now I can't dodge as much as I used to be able to. The rest I like to use in fights against other characters.
I don't know, you could refute my points.DexterNorgam said:
The more you say that it's trash without supporting it properly (aka, explaining WHY it's a button masher) the more obvious it becomes that you know nothing about the game about any reasonable level of play and are talking out of your ass.
As a side point, who cares what it's intended to be. Developer intent is meaningless, all that matters is it's quality at high levels of play.
I've never played it, though I have played the original enough to actually have a line up.
Pikachu
Link
If one doesn't work, the other does, I'll also play a few of the other ones.
Pikachu
Link
If one doesn't work, the other does, I'll also play a few of the other ones.
1) Link:
He has it all! A sword, bow and arrows, bombs, a boomerang, and a spin move that's sooo much fun!
2) Wario:
My friend hates Wario, and I think that's the reason why I like to use him so much. He's fast, crazy, and... well, yeah, that's kind of it.
3) Meta Knight:
Speed and agility. That's all he really boils down to. And I love him for it!
That's pretty much it.
He has it all! A sword, bow and arrows, bombs, a boomerang, and a spin move that's sooo much fun!
2) Wario:
My friend hates Wario, and I think that's the reason why I like to use him so much. He's fast, crazy, and... well, yeah, that's kind of it.
3) Meta Knight:
Speed and agility. That's all he really boils down to. And I love him for it!
That's pretty much it.
1.Lucas (Timing is what makes the character so powerful. His stick is nice too.)
2.Zero Suit Samus (And ONLY Zero Suit Samus)
3.Luigi (He does a dolphin flop. What else is there?)
4.Pikachu (Pika...Pika?)
5.Wario (His powers of digestion are the key to battle)
If the need arises, Peach will be my go-to gal for combat.
2.Zero Suit Samus (And ONLY Zero Suit Samus)
3.Luigi (He does a dolphin flop. What else is there?)
4.Pikachu (Pika...Pika?)
5.Wario (His powers of digestion are the key to battle)
If the need arises, Peach will be my go-to gal for combat.
1.Falco (Reverse PAWNCH)
2.Pikachu (down+B)
3.Bowser (body slam)
4.Mario (jump Jump JUMP)
5.Wolf (I have no idea why im good with him)
2.Pikachu (down+B)
3.Bowser (body slam)
4.Mario (jump Jump JUMP)
5.Wolf (I have no idea why im good with him)
