whats your SSBB line up?

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band43seat

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lucario
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metaknight

really hate people who play with the fire emblem characters, over powered
 

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1. Lucas
2. Ike
3. Shiek

My all-time favorite characters.
Their launch damage is excellent and I'm quite good at not dying with them.
 

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Random is the only manly choice.
I'm 'best' with Rob, Snake, Wario, Olimar, and Diddy Kong... but its never fun to go into a game with friends having a strategy to follow with each that usually insures victory, so I mess around and only picking random. Now I'm fairly good with most characters.

But Peach.

!@$# Peach.

She can go burn.

I hate her.

And Marth.
 

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DexterNorgam said:
AdumbroDeus said:
DexterNorgam said:
Wow, people talking about skill and such in reference to smash bros? lol.
Uh, playing smash even remotely competitively is extremely skillful.


Just to execute stuff this is what is required in melee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXgpGBbh5r8


All three games have a large number of options, which each of those options beating a unique set of the opponent's options.

And the amount of reads/attempted reads per minute in both is staggering, especially because of the lack of true combos in both games (as in, there are few, not none), which means each link requires a read to continue.
Yea, not really though. It is amusing to me to hear people talk about this game like its something more than the fighting game version of mario party...

Listen, I understand you've probably invested tons of time trying to hone "techniques" for this game but the truth of the matter is that this game suffers more than any fighter out there with the button masher syndrome. I can only see spending time tryin to build "skill" (lol) at this game as a complete waste of time because I haven't seen a fighting game that relies less on the player having actual talent than brawl. Its an irrelevant game on an irrelevant console.
If you hate Smash Bros so much, what are you doing hanging out on a thread aimed at people who don't?
Guys, I found a troll!
 

DexterNorgam

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Jailbird408 said:
DexterNorgam said:
AdumbroDeus said:
DexterNorgam said:
Wow, people talking about skill and such in reference to smash bros? lol.
Uh, playing smash even remotely competitively is extremely skillful.


Just to execute stuff this is what is required in melee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXgpGBbh5r8


All three games have a large number of options, which each of those options beating a unique set of the opponent's options.

And the amount of reads/attempted reads per minute in both is staggering, especially because of the lack of true combos in both games (as in, there are few, not none), which means each link requires a read to continue.
Yea, not really though. It is amusing to me to hear people talk about this game like its something more than the fighting game version of mario party...

Listen, I understand you've probably invested tons of time trying to hone "techniques" for this game but the truth of the matter is that this game suffers more than any fighter out there with the button masher syndrome. I can only see spending time tryin to build "skill" (lol) at this game as a complete waste of time because I haven't seen a fighting game that relies less on the player having actual talent than brawl. Its an irrelevant game on an irrelevant console.
If you hate Smash Bros so much, what are you doing hanging out on a thread aimed at people who don't?
Guys, I found a troll!
Yes, I'm a troll, because I disagree lol. Are you in the habit of calling everyone with an opinion different than your own a troll? Nice name calling, enjoy your warning.
 

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Ike
Link
Ganondorf
Pit
Zelda

i'm pretty good with most characters but they are probably my best. Used to be good with C.Falcon but don't play as him much now. also, screw Lucario, BRING BACK MEWTWO
 

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AdumbroDeus said:
DexterNorgam said:
AdumbroDeus said:
If you want a real objection, talk about how unbalanced it is.
Why would anyone complain about balance in this game? ITS TRASH, it doesn't matter if its balanced. In Fact, its NOT balanced because its Not supposed to be taken seriously.

It would be like complaining about balance in Mario Kart Wii... Pointless, because its not supposed to be taken seriously as a racing game. Just like Smash Bro is not supposed to be taken seriously as a fighter...

They really are the mario party games of thier genres.
I don't know, you could refute my points.


The more you say that it's trash without supporting it properly (aka, explaining WHY it's a button masher) the more obvious it becomes that you know nothing about the game about any reasonable level of play and are talking out of your ass.


As a side point, who cares what it's intended to be. Developer intent is meaningless, all that matters is it's quality at high levels of play.
Oh yea, I forgot, on this forum, if you ignore someone's "points" (lol) as not important in the slightest they automatically think that means they are right... I ignore those points because I refuse to acknowledge that Smash Bros is worth the effort it takes to argue "techniques" (lol) within the game. Its simple, unbalanced, and very casual. Take the game as seriously you want, but don't expect to be taken seriously for it.
 

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DexterNorgam said:
Wow, people talking about skill and such in reference to smash bros? lol.
1337 melee trolz.

A good player will beat a bad one in this game aswell, so yeah there is skill involved.
 

DexterNorgam

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Datsle said:
DexterNorgam said:
Wow, people talking about skill and such in reference to smash bros? lol.
1337 melee trolz.

A good player will beat a bad one in this game aswell, so yeah there is skill involved.
You misinterpret me. I'm no fan of melee either. Both suck and are weak casual fighters that deserve the same amount of serious attention as mario kart wii.
 

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DexterNorgam said:
AdumbroDeus said:
DexterNorgam said:
AdumbroDeus said:
If you want a real objection, talk about how unbalanced it is.
Why would anyone complain about balance in this game? ITS TRASH, it doesn't matter if its balanced. In Fact, its NOT balanced because its Not supposed to be taken seriously.

It would be like complaining about balance in Mario Kart Wii... Pointless, because its not supposed to be taken seriously as a racing game. Just like Smash Bro is not supposed to be taken seriously as a fighter...

They really are the mario party games of thier genres.
I don't know, you could refute my points.


The more you say that it's trash without supporting it properly (aka, explaining WHY it's a button masher) the more obvious it becomes that you know nothing about the game about any reasonable level of play and are talking out of your ass.


As a side point, who cares what it's intended to be. Developer intent is meaningless, all that matters is it's quality at high levels of play.
Oh yea, I forgot, on this forum, if you ignore someone's "points" (lol) as not important in the slightest they automatically think that means they are right... I ignore those points because I refuse to acknowledge that Smash Bros is worth the effort it takes to argue "techniques" (lol) within the game. Its simple, unbalanced, and very casual. Take the game as seriously you want, but don't expect to be taken seriously for it.
No, it's more that you're in the minority here and if you want your points to be taken seriously, you need to support them.



Or you know, you could you know, actually consider my points and realize you're wrong. The fact that you've shown a complete lack of knowledge of the game should at least cue you off that maybe you made an error.

But this is the internet. Second thoughts? In my internet?! NEVER!!!!! I WILL CONTINUE HAVING THE SAME POSITION AS BEFORE REGARDLESS OF THE EVIDENCE!!!!!

Taking lessons from GW are we? Though at least he eventually admitted he made some mistakes.


DexterNorgam said:
Datsle said:
DexterNorgam said:
Wow, people talking about skill and such in reference to smash bros? lol.
1337 melee trolz.

A good player will beat a bad one in this game aswell, so yeah there is skill involved.
You misinterpret me. I'm no fan of melee either. Both suck and are weak casual fighters that deserve the same amount of serious attention as mario kart wii.
Frankly, melee takes the depth of brawl and turns it up 11. It's also a far more balanced game, that while it has a clear best, does not feature MUs anywhere near as lopsided as brawl.


Eh, then one of the SRK internet warriors (or some other traditional fighting game community), the proportion of smash-bashing is almost always inversely proportional to the amount of tournament experience and skill the person trotting it out has. For most good players, there's no real incentive to troll other communities.
 

DexterNorgam

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AdumbroDeus said:
DexterNorgam said:
AdumbroDeus said:
DexterNorgam said:
AdumbroDeus said:
If you want a real objection, talk about how unbalanced it is.
Why would anyone complain about balance in this game? ITS TRASH, it doesn't matter if its balanced. In Fact, its NOT balanced because its Not supposed to be taken seriously.

It would be like complaining about balance in Mario Kart Wii... Pointless, because its not supposed to be taken seriously as a racing game. Just like Smash Bro is not supposed to be taken seriously as a fighter...

They really are the mario party games of thier genres.
I don't know, you could refute my points.


The more you say that it's trash without supporting it properly (aka, explaining WHY it's a button masher) the more obvious it becomes that you know nothing about the game about any reasonable level of play and are talking out of your ass.


As a side point, who cares what it's intended to be. Developer intent is meaningless, all that matters is it's quality at high levels of play.
Oh yea, I forgot, on this forum, if you ignore someone's "points" (lol) as not important in the slightest they automatically think that means they are right... I ignore those points because I refuse to acknowledge that Smash Bros is worth the effort it takes to argue "techniques" (lol) within the game. Its simple, unbalanced, and very casual. Take the game as seriously you want, but don't expect to be taken seriously for it.
No, it's more that you're in the minority here and if you want your points to be taken seriously, you need to support them.



Or you know, you could you know, actually consider my points and realize you're wrong. The fact that you've shown a complete lack of knowledge of the game should at least cue you off that maybe you made an error.

But this is the internet. Second thoughts? In my internet?! NEVER!!!!! I WILL CONTINUE HAVING THE SAME POSITION AS BEFORE REGARDLESS OF THE EVIDENCE!!!!!

Taking lessons from GW are we? Though at least he eventually admitted he made some mistakes.


DexterNorgam said:
Datsle said:
DexterNorgam said:
Wow, people talking about skill and such in reference to smash bros? lol.
1337 melee trolz.

A good player will beat a bad one in this game aswell, so yeah there is skill involved.
You misinterpret me. I'm no fan of melee either. Both suck and are weak casual fighters that deserve the same amount of serious attention as mario kart wii.
Frankly, melee takes the depth of brawl and turns it up 11. It's also a far more balanced game, that while it has a clear best, does not feature MUs anywhere near as lopsided as brawl.


Eh, then one of the SRK internet warriors (or some other traditional fighting game community), the proportion of smash-bashing is almost always inversely proportional to the amount of tournament experience and skill the person trotting it out has. For most good players, there's no real incentive to troll other communities.

All those words... You do realize that you're not going to change my mind on this one, right? I am also sorry to break it to you that I have no intention of dignifying your remarks on the various "techniques" you use in this game with replies. I know you want me to, but I'm sorry, I just can't be any part of a "serious" discussion of the "skills (lol)" involved in playing smash bros...There's nothing in the list of things you touted as the incredible depth that aren't basic elements of some more complex fighter.

You can insist that there's some huge amount of skill or talent required for this game but its just not true. It's exactly like trying to say that you've refined your mario kart skill to "professional" levels.

Don't like what I have to say, here's a crazy notion... Stop trying to convince me that this cheesy casual 3 button fighter is something to take seriously and I'll probably stop debating the issue with you. Hooray for NOVELTY.
 

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DexterNorgam said:

Exactly. It has the vast majority of elements the elements of the standard fighting game, namely things like the primacy of reads, a vibrant spacing game (especially true in melee), and many options with their own set of unique options that I they beat and lose to. Beyond movement, I barely touched on what games the games uniqu.


As far as debating, you haven't actually debated since you haven't brought a single point to the table. All you've done so far is create long-winded that equate to "na na na, I'm not listening".

At least you're willing to admit that your perception rules, and no matter how much evidence there is against your side, you will never yield. Definitely the stupidest position to take in any argument, because new evidence can always change things.

Whatevs, you're a lost cause, but there are plenty of others, mostly people who actually attend fighting game tournaments instead of trying to force opinions with no basis in fact on everyone they can.
 

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I'm proficient with pretty much every character, I can win with just about anybody. But I think my favorites, in no particular order are:

Captain Falcon
King Dedede
Pikachu
Wolf
Mario
Toon Link
and some others.

I usually just pick whichever character seems like it would be the most fun though, it doesn't have to be one of those. And right now I'm actually trying to test out some characters I don't play with often, just to get a feel for them.