Whats your stance on drug use?

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FernandoV

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I think it's nice to see that most people are pretty okay with people spending their time the way they like. I'm not surprised though, this is a pretty liberal community I'd think.
 

phantasmalWordsmith

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Some Slovakian man tried to sell me drugs the day before yesterday, said something about his children but from discussion with my ex-psychiatric nurse (specialised in Drugs and Alcohol misuse) mother, I know that drugs bought off the street can have any kind of garbage in them, that drugs can kill and they really aren't worth it in the long run. As such, when this man tried to sell me drugs, I told him to take it somewhere else and that I wanted nothing to do with him as well deciding that if he tried to sell me drugs again, I'd call the police.

So yeah, I don't like drugs. I've heard too many bad things about them. So yeah, drug are bad, m'kay?
 

CrimsonBlaze

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I personally don't like any drugs and I feel like their usage should be banned or limited. People say that they should legalize marijuana and have it regulated and taxed. Ok, here's my two-cents: Go ahead and do that...
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Genetically engineer the herb so that anyone that does smoke it gets so baked that they cannot do anything, but sit where they are, and either continue to smoke more weed, or wait until the effects wear off.

At the very least, we do not have people running around with a roach in one hand and a bag of chips in the other, while on the freeway.

Yes, I am aware that the above was an exaggeration, but it really is a hazard to have people openly smoking weed and not being in the right state of mind to do certain things. So just keep the weed consumption at home or in a place that may someday allow you to smoke it indoors.
 

Jonluw

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Christopher N said:
So yeah, I don't like drugs. I've heard too many bad things about them. So yeah, drug are bad, m'kay?
Well, that's not really a good justification for calling something bad.
You should base those kinds of decisions on fair research, not only what people tell you.

Even then, you shouldn't make blanket statements like drugs are bad. There's an incredible amount of different drugs. Some fundamentally different to eachother.
Adressing such a variety of completely different substances with one word is almost unreasonable.
Alcohol, for example, is a depressant which causes loss of motor control, lack of judgement and in some cases addiction. It can also cause lethal poisoning.
Cannabis is of mixed category and causes feelings of euphoria, relaxation and in certain cases anxiety or paranoia. Its addictive potential is lower than alcohol's, and there are no recorded deaths caused by the substance.
LSD is a fairly strong hallucinogen. Effects include hallucinations, a sense that one's thoughts are spiraling into themselves, loss of a sense of identity or the ego (known as "ego death"), and other powerful psycho-physical reactions (wikipedia). It is completely non-addictive and not lethal in the least.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Drug_danger_and_dependence.png

So calling all drugs bad just because that's what you've been told they are really isn't fair. Neither to yourself nor to the drug users.
 

Jonluw

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CrimsonBlaze said:
Genetically engineer the herb so that anyone that does smoke it gets so baked that they cannot do anything, but sit where they are, and either continue to smoke more weed, or wait until the effects wear off.

At the very least, we do not have people running around with a roach in one hand and a bag of chips in the other, while on the freeway.
1. Would you agree that alcohol should be made illegal until we have engineered that drug as well to not enable drunk driving?
2. How would you go about doing this genetic engineering? It might not be possible, and if it isn't, would you still make cannabis legal?
 

Tinygiant

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I'm all for it. People are going to use whether or not it's legal (remember the 1920s, anyone?), so we may as well quit ostracizing a segment of society.

Legalizing would make everything safer. Fewer shady corner deals, less risk of being shot, etc. It would also help on the supply side - you get legitmate businesses in on it rather than just cartels.

Legalizing would save lives. Right now, you have a huge issue if you (or a friend) ODs - do you take them to get treatment (saving their live but at a huge legal risk) or do you hope they come through (risky in both ways)?


Now, having said all that, most drugs are still dangerous as all get out. I'd be in favor of the same kind of taxes that are put on alcohol and tobacco (the latter, by the way, is as addictive as heroin), as well as laws about driving, operating machinery, etc. while under the influence.


The longer the war on drugs keeps going, the more money we lose to a fight we can't win. Let's get on this!
 

Flames66

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I don't care what drugs people take, as long as they don't effect anyone else it is none of my business. If some stoned off his face guy accosts me in the street that is a problem, if he keeps it to himself I don't care.
 

CrimsonBlaze

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Jonluw said:
CrimsonBlaze said:
Genetically engineer the herb so that anyone that does smoke it gets so baked that they cannot do anything, but sit where they are, and either continue to smoke more weed, or wait until the effects wear off.

At the very least, we do not have people running around with a roach in one hand and a bag of chips in the other, while on the freeway.
1. Would you agree that alcohol should be made illegal until we have engineered that drug as well to not enable drunk driving?
2. How would you go about doing this genetic engineering? It might not be possible, and if it isn't, would you still make cannabis legal?
1. Alcohol was illegal/banned during prohibition and was re-legalized with a lot of legal restrictions and laws for those who abused the right to drink. I would look forward to there being some method or precaution to prevent people from driving drunk, especially for those idiots that plan on getting s***faced without a designated driver, but in the meantime, we'll have to rely on true friends, family that cares, and police checkpoints.

Before anyone says anything, yes, I do drink and I am of the legal age. I enjoy both beer and occasionally wine, mostly beer because I can moderate my consumption more easily and it's not as fun drinking straight-up wine. If I go somewhere I'm sure to drink alcohol, I am sure to have a designated driver.

2. It has to do with how they grow the weed and under certain conditions. They can produce weed that causes different effects, how powerful those effects are, and how long they will last, even after you have a stopped smoking it. If they could produce weed that anchors someone to a chair until the effects wear off, then yes, I would support it. I many not like it, but it will taxed, regulated, and stoners won't be able to go anywhere until they are no longer under the effect of the cannabis. I may not like smoking, but at least they are not allowed to smoke indoors anymore.
 

staika

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I hate drugs since they took my cousins life around five months ago about 3 days after my 20th birthday. I have no problem with alcohol and cigarettes but everything else I hate.
 

Jonluw

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staika said:
I hate drugs since they took my cousins life around five months ago about 3 days after my 20th birthday. I have no problem with alcohol and cigarettes but everything else I hate.
Why are you putting alcohol and cigarettes into their own group?
Why do they not get any of the blame for your cousin's death when the blame is otherwise evenly distributed across the label 'drugs'?
The only thing that separates them from the other substances in the group labeled 'drugs' is that they're legal.

Different drugs carry different risks and you are doing yourself no favours by viewing them all as a homogenous group. It's dishonest and may lead to entirely fallacious conclusions. For instance, amphetamines may cause violent behaviour, and for that I consider it a dangerous drug.
Nicotine causes addiction, and for that I consider it an evil drug.
Alcohol may cause aggression and loss of critical thinking and self control, and poses minor risks of addiction, and for that I consider it a poor drug.
 

Rule Britannia

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So long as you don't use the drug your taking as a hobby or a past time, to me that seems "loser-ish". I've only used cannabis at parties (twice), I didn't enjoy it much; it just seems dirty in my opinion.
 

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Well the only drug I would think about touching is marijuana. That other shit is just.. nah, I would definitely not go there. For other people however, I believe that in the privacy of their own home, they can do whatever they like. That includes downing little white pills and shooting whatever shit into their veins.
 

zelda2fanboy

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I just think drugs are boring and I haven't really seen much evidence to suggest otherwise. Unless you're Hunter S Thompson (who I'm really into right now), most of the druggiest experiences I've heard involve sitting on a couch or sleeping. Sometimes there's a panic attack or vomiting. That's about it. It doesn't really matter what the drug is, the results are usually the same. A lot of people use bath salts, but very few eat people's faces off.

I'm a little embittered at drugs for making people who don't use them sound boring. We're only boring because we don't gather around for the group activity of drug taking. Take away the socializing and drugs aren't much of anything.
 

Emperor Nat

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Personally, I think recreational drug use is a pointless, irresponsible and potentially self-destructive past-time. I'd never want to use drugs, nor hang around people using them.

That said, I honestly don't care what people do with themselves as long as it doesn't affect me. I think it's wrong, but that's their business - not mine.