When did being a jerk become cool?

[icky46111]

Also, blah blah anonymity even though it's a flawed argument - first of all, it's just you who is assuming that the jerk in question is a fat/super-thin 13 year old and that whoever he offends is a martial arts black belt specialized in actual combat and not just showing off useless shit.

Hmf, that sounds excacly like me. Theres this kid at my school who is extreamly thin gaming nerd who thinks he's amasing because he's a douche. He just goes egotastic and his mouth gets him really close to death. Oh yeah, and he's thirteen (this cannot be a coincidence)

Now im a black belt in karate and eventually he made a comment that broke my patence, I flipped him with one kick and let him get back up, he threw a punch and i caught it between my shoulder and my elbow (just what I wanted) and I broke his arm. He started crying and fell to the ground, I got away clean since I made it look like he tripped.

My fake story was, "He tripped and thought I did it, he threw a punch and I stopped it, whats wrong with self defence", and that got me out. That kid is scared shitless of me now.

My point is, you just spelled me out, good job.

O.T. Jerks are jerks because they have no respect, and later on in life they get hurt [bad] because of it.

You sir should have your black belt revoked because I seem to recall that as a praticioner of karate you are only supposed to strike in self defense, which you didn't. Who cares if you did it because he was being a douche, people put up with douches all the time and do nothing about it. Plus there's the fact that you BROKE HIS DAMN ARM and didn't take responsibiliy!! Do you know what his economic situation is at home? Could he or his family pay for the treatment to mend his arm? You should have to pay for it because you caused it. And dont use the excuse "He deserved it", because you already kicked him to the ground once at which point you let him get back up just so you could hit him again.

Now admitedly you could just be proof of the "Internet Dickwad Theory", you have an audience, you had anonymity, and you CLAIM to have done things like this to people. I say claim because for all we know you could be lying or switching the roles, claiming this "glory" to be yours when it was the other way around.

However do not think I support the "extremely thin gaming nerd" and his actions. He could have stopped at any time and not incured anyones wrath, which by the way is one of the seven deadly sins. I will give him this though, at least he had the guts to be douchey outside of the internet, and you sir only had the guts to admit this attrocity online, where your mother ain't lookin. And if, by some ungodly reason, I was to meet you in real life, I would stand by what I say here and make sure people know so that you will pay for your sins as well.

Finally to be on topic, I do belive in the "Internet dickwad theory".

 

[Spitfire175]

It became cool when it became anonymous and the effective IQ dropped below 60. The rest of us still consider it trolling.

Well, that pretty much said it.

 

[ace_of_something]

[a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Z-XL9rNYA]I'd say about 1966.[/a]

At least that's how I interpret the song.

 

[GonzoGamer]

I don't think it ever became cool.
I just think people like to take advantage of the internets ability to let us be anonymous wise-asses.

Of course the word hate is overused because people like to anonymously exaggerate too.

 

[Supreme Unleaded]

Also, blah blah anonymity even though it's a flawed argument - first of all, it's just you who is assuming that the jerk in question is a fat/super-thin 13 year old and that whoever he offends is a martial arts black belt specialized in actual combat and not just showing off useless shit.

Hmf, that sounds excacly like me. Theres this kid at my school who is extreamly thin gaming nerd who thinks he's amasing because he's a douche. He just goes egotastic and his mouth gets him really close to death. Oh yeah, and he's thirteen (this cannot be a coincidence)

Now im a black belt in karate and eventually he made a comment that broke my patence, I flipped him with one kick and let him get back up, he threw a punch and i caught it between my shoulder and my elbow (just what I wanted) and I broke his arm. He started crying and fell to the ground, I got away clean since I made it look like he tripped.

My fake story was, "He tripped and thought I did it, he threw a punch and I stopped it, whats wrong with self defence", and that got me out. That kid is scared shitless of me now.

My point is, you just spelled me out, good job.

O.T. Jerks are jerks because they have no respect, and later on in life they get hurt [bad] because of it.

You sir should have your black belt revoked because I seem to recall that as a praticioner of karate you are only supposed to strike in self defense, which you didn't. Who cares if you did it because he was being a douche, people put up with douches all the time and do nothing about it. Plus there's the fact that you BROKE HIS DAMN ARM and didn't take responsibiliy!! Do you know what his economic situation is at home? Could he or his family pay for the treatment to mend his arm? You should have to pay for it because you caused it. And dont use the excuse "He deserved it", because you already kicked him to the ground once at which point you let him get back up just so you could hit him again.

Now admitedly you could just be proof of the "Internet Dickwad Theory", you have an audience, you had anonymity, and you CLAIM to have done things like this to people. I say claim because for all we know you could be lying or switching the roles, claiming this "glory" to be yours when it was the other way around.

However do not think I support the "extremely thin gaming nerd" and his actions. He could have stopped at any time and not incured anyones wrath, which by the way is one of the seven deadly sins. I will give him this though, at least he had the guts to be douchey outside of the internet, and you sir only had the guts to admit this attrocity online, where your mother ain't lookin. And if, by some ungodly reason, I was to meet you in real life, I would stand by what I say here and make sure people know so that you will pay for your sins as well.

Finally to be on topic, I do belive in the "Internet dickwad theory".

You don't know how this played out, I left much out since I didn't feel like typing it all. Now my fatehr commited sucide when I was six, leaving me devastated and not knowing what to do, that is a very sensative subject for me, and this kid knows it.

His comment was " Your so fat (which isn't entirely true, im 5 piounds over the american BMI), you got it from you father, he's such a fag im glad he commited sucide". that WILL make me mad, that will make me hurt him, you DO NOT talk ill of the dead like that. I got pissed and blaked out, I did trip him but I wanst fully thinking, so as far as I knew he just threw a punch at me, and since I was still mad I broke his arm. The only reason why I know I tripped him is because a friend of mine (who hates his guts) saw it, and he told me.

Now if your fatehr commited suicide and someone said something like that to you I could bet you would get pissed. And I have had many previose experiences with this kid, and I never struck back even when he struck first, that was the "brick" that broke the cammels back.

And I realy dont regret it, I'd rather him try and stay away from me rather then looking for trouble.

Oh and he can't be poor because he has about 9 thousand different polo shirts, a $2,000 laptop that he brings in sometimes, $100 shoes, and a $200 bike. So he's pretty much rich.

And just to restate it, I don't fully remeber tripping him, so at first I thought I was doing self defence, then when my friend told me i tripped him it seemed to make more sence. I'd ratehr not get into fights but when i do I can really hurt people.

 

[killereddy]

when? about 1989

Far far before that I'm afraid.

Jerks can come from a wide variety of places. You're not telling me that King Henry the Eighth wasn't a jerk, or J. Edgar Hoover, or Oliver Cromwell or Sir Francis Drake or John Smith (Pocahontas) or Hernando Cortez.

What it stems from is lack of responsibility for their actions, which internet anonymity provides in bucketloads.

I was refering to being a jerk on the internet, in person I'd say it probably started with Adam, the first time he ***** slapped Eve.

 

[Malkavian]

People dislike things.

/thread

 

[Hiraeth]

People are still doing the 'girls love jerks' thing? Seriously? I feel as one of the allegedly jerk-loving females I'm uniquely qualified to tell you that it is in fact a load of crap. I don't date jerks and for the most part neither do my friends. Sure there are a couple of girls I know that do, then complain when they get hurt, only to run after someone exactly the same as soon as they cheer up again. With some girls like that you can tell them as much as you want to that the guy they're with isn't good enough for them, that they deserve someone better, but most of the time they don't listen and they definitely don't learn from their experiences. But if you're really going for that kind of insecure, needy girl, by all means act like a jerk, you'll be beating them off with a stick. Of course the rest of the female population will be avoiding you like the plague but who cares, right?

Trying to generalize about the kind of guys that girl go for is about as useful as generalizing about what girls guys go for, or what games they prefer, or whether they like spicy food or not. Everyone is different, and everyone looks for different things in their partners. I personally tend to go for guys who make me laugh and who treat me with respect, jerks on the other hand are an instant turn off.

I've also found that a lot of guys who complain about girls only dating jerks generally don't have the confidence to make a move on a girl, so when she goes for the confident guy who actually gets to the point and asks her out, the 'nice guys' blame her for not wanting to be with them, despite the fact that she never even knew they were interested. I mean maybe this isn't the case for all self proclaimed 'nice guys', but honestly what it comes down to is the fact that the common element in all your relationships is you. If you're a nice guy but you're not getting dates, well there are plenty of nice guys that are, maybe you need to look at how you present yourself, or the kind of girls that you go for, and stop hiding behind the 'girls like jerks' excuse, because we're all getting kind of sick of it.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

Jerks aren't jerks because they are anonymous. All the big douchebags have women flocking to them.

Basicaly my point...for some reason jerks, and not liek funny/witty burns, like "that kid with down syndrome should jump infront of a truck" jerks seem to get all the girls

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

People are still doing the 'girls love jerks' thing? Seriously? I feel as one of the allegedly jerk-loving females I'm uniquely qualified to tell you that it is in fact a load of crap. I don't date jerks and for the most part neither do my friends. Sure there are a couple of girls I know that do, then complain when they get hurt, only to run after someone exactly the same as soon as they cheer up again. With some girls like that you can tell them as much as you want to that the guy they're with isn't good enough for them, that they deserve someone better, but most of the time they don't listen and they definitely don't learn from their experiences. But if you're really going for that kind of insecure, needy girl, by all means act like a jerk, you'll be beating them off with a stick. Of course the rest of the female population will be avoiding you like the plague but who cares, right?

Trying to generalize about the kind of guys that girl go for is about as useful as generalizing about what girls guys go for, or what games they prefer, or whether they like spicy food or not. Everyone is different, and everyone looks for different things in their partners. I personally tend to go for guys who make me laugh and who treat me with respect, jerks on the other hand are an instant turn off.

I've also found that a lot of guys who complain about girls only dating jerks generally don't have the confidence to make a move on a girl, so when she goes for the confident guy who actually gets to the point and asks her out, the 'nice guys' blame her for not wanting to be with them, despite the fact that she never even knew they were interested. I mean maybe this isn't the case for all self proclaimed 'nice guys', but honestly what it comes down to is the fact that the common element in all your relationships is you. If you're a nice guy but you're not getting dates, well there are plenty of nice guys that are, maybe you need to look at how you present yourself, or the kind of girls that you go for, and stop hiding behind the 'girls like jerks' excuse, because we're all getting kind of sick of it.

Alright so you just massacured my previous post. But I'm going to attempt some counter posts.

1st paragraph: Its not that I wake up and say "Needy girls" it's more like I like a girl and she turns out to be crazy AFTER I start liking her. And that has only happenned twice.

2nd paragraph: All excellent points with 1 exception-"I personally tend to go for guys who make me laugh and who treat me with respect" Maybe I live in backwards ville cause thats how I treat every girl I have ever liked yet I am still single.

3rd paragraph: Alright you hit my weak spot...I am lacking in the self confidence area. But there is a reason for that. I certainly wasn't born like that. No it's the fact that every girl I have liked in the past 2 years and have told my true feelings to has shot me down. Every single one. Not even kidding. Like it's hard to keep positive and be confident when it never works out.

 

[Twitchycat]

A probable cause for young people(I think it is safe to assume that on this site that is the major demographic group) to be jerks(which is all subjective) is because they have yet to develop fully; + Evolutionary Psychology perspective.

 

[yzzlthtz]

Once again, jerks are jerks because of their anonymity. Put them face-to-face with the person they were mocking/ being a general douche towards, and they wouldn't say the same things. And people in modern society aren't suddenly assholes; they have been since humanity began.

I don't know, we know who Rush Limbaugh and Gleck Beck are, and they are dickwads in public all the time.
I think Karl Rove brought Angry back.

 

[yzzlthtz]

Once again, jerks are jerks because of their anonymity. Put them face-to-face with the person they were mocking/ being a general douche towards, and they wouldn't say the same things. And people in modern society aren't suddenly assholes; they have been since humanity began.

Yes - someWHERE hidden in anger is the impetus to change something. And you know what? It works some of the time. So people keep doin' it.

 

[nicholaxxx]

Once again, jerks are jerks because of their anonymity. Put them face-to-face with the person they were mocking/ being a general douche towards, and they wouldn't say the same things. And people in modern society aren't suddenly assholes; they have been since humanity began.

because being an ass in person is dangerous, behind a moniter you could be 7'5" and 600 lbs of muscle WITH fighting experience, as opposed to the 5'8" toothpick who can't hurt someone unless their using the juggernaut perk

 

[Mozared]

chicks dude, chicks. that is the answer. this strategy has worked for me.

I wouldn't be surprised if that *was* the true cause, really. It seems likely that the theory of evolution is true, and if it is being a jerk is simply our way of saying "I'm the alpha male, all the others should buzz off, I want all the females".

 

[Hiraeth]

Alright so you just massacured my previous post. But I'm going to attempt some counter posts.

1st paragraph: Its not that I wake up and say "Needy girls" it's more like I like a girl and she turns out to be crazy AFTER I start liking her. And that has only happenned twice.

2nd paragraph: All excellent points with 1 exception-"I personally tend to go for guys who make me laugh and who treat me with respect" Maybe I live in backwards ville cause thats how I treat every girl I have ever liked yet I am still single.

3rd paragraph: Alright you hit my weak spot...I am lacking in the self confidence area. But there is a reason for that. I certainly wasn't born like that. No it's the fact that every girl I have liked in the past 2 years and have told my true feelings to has shot me down. Every single one. Not even kidding. Like it's hard to keep positive and be confident when it never works out.

1st point: Okay so you clearly aren't after the kind of girls whose self-destructive behavior pushes them towards jerks, so I don't really see what the issue is. I mean if you don't want girls like that then don't act like a jerk...

2nd point: That sucks, it really does, but all I can tell you is that you should keep looking, because there's really a lot of us out there. I mean obviously there are a few physical things that I tend to go for too, but if the guy is a jerk or has no sense of humor then it's really not going to go anywhere, by the same token if you make me laugh every time you open your mouth then chances are I won't care what you look like.

3rd point: Stop confessing your feelings to people. It's awkward and highschoolish and needs to stop. If you meet a girl and she's cute and you think you like her then get her number and ask her out, if she says no she says no, but if she says yes then yay you get to go on a date and see how things go from there. You get a chance to interact with her as a person and maybe after a while she'll get to know you and start to like you. If you go up to a girl and confess that you have feelings for her then you're kind of springing it out of nowhere. Chances are she may never have thought of you that way, and if she doesn't feel the same at that exact moment what is she supposed to say? It puts so much pressure on the both of you, whereas if you just ask her to go see a movie with you and she says no, then so what? I mean it still sucks, but in my opinion it's nowhere near as crushing as knowing that you've opened your heart up to someone only to have it stomped on. Take it slow, save confessions of that sort until after you've gone on a few dates and give her a chance to warm to you the same way.

Also, if it makes you feel any better I've only dated three guys in the past two years, and only the most recent of them turned into anything near an actual relationship (and that ended in January). It's not easy, but if you let rejection get you down then you'll never find anyone worth having, I mean I haven't given up on dating, not by a long shot. I also haven't started blaming guys for only being attracted to girls who're easy, nor have I started being easy in order to get more action. I know that while girls that act like that do seem to get more guys, the kind of guy that I want isn't one that would be with those kind of girls. Does that make sense?

 

[Arcane Azmadi]

You're asking the wrong question. Being a jerk does not make you cool, it makes you a fucking jerk. The question is "when did people THINK being a jerk is cool?" And it's hard to pinpoint an exact time, but it's definitely linked to the rise of online gaming.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

1st point: Okay so you clearly aren't after the kind of girls whose self-destructive behavior pushes them towards jerks, so I don't really see what the issue is. I mean if you don't want girls like that then don't act like a jerk...

2nd point: That sucks, it really does, but all I can tell you is that you should keep looking, because there's really a lot of us out there. I mean obviously there are a few physical things that I tend to go for too, but if the guy is a jerk or has no sense of humor then it's really not going to go anywhere, by the same token if you make me laugh every time you open your mouth then chances are I won't care what you look like.

3rd point: Stop confessing your feelings to people. It's awkward and highschoolish and needs to stop. If you meet a girl and she's cute and you think you like her then get her number and ask her out, if she says no she says no, but if she says yes then yay you get to go on a date and see how things go from there. You get a chance to interact with her as a person and maybe after a while she'll get to know you and start to like you. If you go up to a girl and confess that you have feelings for her then you're kind of springing it out of nowhere. Chances are she may never have thought of you that way, and if she doesn't feel the same at that exact moment what is she supposed to say? It puts so much pressure on the both of you, whereas if you just ask her to go see a movie with you and she says no, then so what? I mean it still sucks, but in my opinion it's nowhere near as crushing as knowing that you've opened your heart up to someone only to have it stomped on. Take it slow, save confessions of that sort until after you've gone on a few dates and give her a chance to warm to you the same way.

Also, if it makes you feel any better I've only dated three guys in the past two years, and only the most recent of them turned into anything near an actual relationship (and that ended in January). It's not easy, but if you let rejection get you down then you'll never find anyone worth having, I mean I haven't given up on dating, not by a long shot. I also haven't started blaming guys for only being attracted to girls who're easy, nor have I started being easy in order to get more action. I know that while girls that act like that do seem to get more guys, the kind of guy that I want isn't one that would be with those kind of girls. Does that make sense?

All sensible points...and no that doesn't make me feel overly better, no I havnt given up on dateing, not by a long shot, and yes I realise that putting the blame elsewhere is immature and irresponsible. But this thread came up and I was like "Ohh hot damn"