When Did Our Teachers Become Pansies?

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SamFancyPants252

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you can't call it until you see it. My class in year 8 were so rowdy that we made one poor lady leave the school. All the other teachers were fine, we just needed a bit of discapline. It's the nature of the teachers, nothing else.
 

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Ryokai said:
Maybe in your country. I went to a school where we had a ton of freedom, (Once drank an entire bottle of scotch in class--Yes, I can hear you going "Suuuuuure" but believe me, I've taken so much medication that I'm ridiculously resistant to all mind altering substances) but the teachers knew had to draw the lines. I mean, I had a teacher who would hit us when he got annoyed (we took it in stride, and laughed even as he did it... though it did hurt, this guy was an ox, but it was all in good fun.)
What the fuck..

OT: It isn't that bad in my school. They teachers are fairly strict and if you do something fairly serious, you get punished for it. Simple as that.
 

Shockolate

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All this thread did was make me wish that a former teacher at my school hadn't gotten reassigned.

Belle River District High School misses you Mr. Roth!
 

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The problem is the parent's squarely and absolutely. Actual statements I have heard from a classroom.

"My dad says reading is shite!"
"My mum says reading is for nerds!"
"You can't do that or my uncle will fucking rape you!" Yeah you read that correctly, it wasn't addressed at me, but at a female member of staff by an 8 year old girl. Let that sink in for a minute.

There are many more from the archive of wrongness however the teaching profession are crippled by two factors.

1. During school hours teachers are responsible for your children absolutely, they are utterly responsible for the well being, emotional stability and social conditioning of your child.

2. "You can't talk to my fucking kid like that!" Yeah you want us to discipline your kids in a way you find it impossible to do and yet threaten us with violence if we suggest you didn't make them do their homework.

This is why teachers attack children with barbells.

People see education as a useless distraction from the time they are born and the time they claim benefits. There is no imagination and children are learning that any problem can be solved with violence.

When I was a lad I got a clip round the ear or a steel ruler across my face if I was bad, I went home told my parents and got grounded. That is what is missing. Violence doesn't beget violence it controls it.

And like Root I too am a pacifist, up until someone threatens my wife or family!
 

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It is for this reason that I firmly believe there should be some form of military discipline in schools. Instead of suspensions, make them either contribute to the school or do some form of bootcamp. Let's face it, suspensions don't work because the kids don't care what their parents think or whether they are there in the first place.

Also, communities in general have gone to shit. It takes an entire community to raise a child, but these days it's more an 'every man for himself' society.
 

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MelziGurl said:
It is for this reason that I firmly believe there should be some form of military discipline in schools. Instead of suspensions, make them either contribute to the school or do some form of bootcamp. Let's face it, suspensions don't work because the kids don't care what their parents think or whether they are there in the first place.

Also, communities in general have gone to shit. It takes an entire community to raise a child, but these days it's more an 'every man for himself' society.
you are right, and in fact in most countries, chief educators are actually ex military high ranking officers. And u wonder why in the States principles answer to Superintendent which is actually a military term.
 

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I believe that the schools are hiring inexperienced teachers. Before hiring they need to find a teacher that asserts themselves as the dominant one in the classroom. Kids are good at spotting weakness and if a teacher shows any, then the kids will assume control.
 

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In the days of my old man, kids got the cane and a damn good shouting at when they were in the wrong.

Nowadays, if a teacher did that, they would lose their job and get sued.

It's all this ridiculous political correctness that plagues today's society...
 

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Have any of you noticed that our teachers in schools have gotten less strict, less controlling of the class and generally have become push-overs? I've only recently noticed that respect for teacher authority has dropped drasticly over the past 3 years in middle school. Back in the day the rules were sit down, shut up, don't talk or your gone, now the teachers have lost their nerve and the class becomes a zoo. Kids text on phones, listen to Ipods when they should be working, kids are yacking non-stop and the teacher for the most part does nothing.

It's become so common that teachers usually won't resist or they'll get into an all out battle for control of the classroom, either way class time gets wasted. Marks have dropped, tests have become easier and still most kids get 65% on average. When the hell did this all happen? When did our teachers spend half the class telling everyone to be quiet? Why isn't anyone sent to detention, the ring-leaders are pretty obvious? When did our teachers become pansies?

I find it ridiculous because they always talk up these teachers to be hardcases with zero tolerance for your bullshit and when you get there it's like they fear the class! Now they won't even adequatly punish a person who's out of control. How the fuck did this happen?
My IT teacher is the best. Seriously hes fine with anyone as long as you work. You stop work for more than a second and he bits your head off and eats it, purpleleafrave will quit to that if he quotes me. You dont fuck with mr H.

"so basically thats how OS works... YOU GET THE HELL BACK TO WORK OR IL SEE YOU SUSPENDED YOU LAZY... ARE YOU SMILING?!!! THREE WEEKS WITHDRAWAL GET THE HELL OUT OF MY CLASSROOM I DONT WANT TO SEE YOU HERE AGAIN"

He root marches his tutor until they make a perfectly straight line. Its scary, im thankfull im on of his favourites.
 

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When they got sued for being badass. It's up to the students to dish out the discipline. Everyone racks-a-disciprine!
 

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Ever since parents decided teachers have to be guardians of their children, whilst having a fit when teachers try to discipline them. Any parent that whinges about a teacher sending their child out in the winter cold because they are mucking up shouldn't be a parent ... because they are a piss poor one.

That being said, everytime I'm going to be teaching a class I'm secretly turning on the camera on my laptop, parents complain ... show them a video and blatantly say "Your son/daughter is a prick ... correct behaviour or they'll spend all semester out in the corridor and fail the course'.

Oh yeah, and if you think that's draconian, then think of the 90% of students that actually want to learn (or atleast have the good grace to not talk and keep still when you're teaching) and cannot because one kid is making that impossible in a classroom.

I have no problems with a student that doesn't want to be in school. I don't care if they don't learn anything. It's not my job to care. As long as they sit down, and shut up, I will get along as well with them as any other child. But I have a problem with students that not only decide they hate school, but decide to make everybody hate it as much as they by being a little shit in the classroom.

No teacher should have to put up with it. And parents can whinge about it as much as they want, but first things first; I spend 45 minutes with their kid, and secondly i'm not their parent. I have better things to do than be a parent to their child.
 

Ziadaine_v1legacy

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New rules, and in some cases, cop far too much abuse by little shit heads who think they can run the place themselfs. Or are just total little shit heads who are the real time wasters.
 

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Honestly, I think education should be a privilege and not a right. If students could be "fired" (of course, giving ample warning) from school it would put more responsibility on themselves and the parents.
 

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At some occasions, some teachers, when students are talking, just wait for them to be quiet. In singing class I realized she was doing and just started mumbling so we wouldn't get back to work.
 

MelziGurl

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powell86 said:
MelziGurl said:
It is for this reason that I firmly believe there should be some form of military discipline in schools. Instead of suspensions, make them either contribute to the school or do some form of bootcamp. Let's face it, suspensions don't work because the kids don't care what their parents think or whether they are there in the first place.

Also, communities in general have gone to shit. It takes an entire community to raise a child, but these days it's more an 'every man for himself' society.
you are right, and in fact in most countries, chief educators are actually ex military high ranking officers. And u wonder why in the States principles answer to Superintendent which is actually a military term.
I had one teacher who was ex-military...let's just say that I only ever 'half' did my homework once. It didn't matter if it was half done or just not done at all, you suffered with the rest of them. She also had the boys willingly letting the girls in and out of the classroom first. I respected that teacher, because she gave a damn about whether I failed or not.
 

kurupt87

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It is impossible to legally discipline a child, whether you're a teacher or parent, it can't be done anymore. This is why there are so many kids who think they are the greatest thing to ever happen and that everything revolves around them, the law does it's best to make these reality.

It creates a generation of self interested, self obsessed egomaniacs; they'll be in their twenties before they finally realise the fallacy, and if they are some type of trust fund person they maybe never will.
 

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I am currently in the education system and I have noticed a decline in the in your face "SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP" type of teacher but I have not noticed a decline in the difficulty in test and based on my generational perspective(I did a school report on schooling and have talked to people about what school was like for every generation) the difficulty has actually increased I am just going into high school and in 8th grade we were doing quadratic equations and bs like that, this started roughly 10 or 15 years ago depending on where you are they changed from the normal thing of"welcome to 5th grade you will be doing this this and this" to focusing on like 10 really hard things from 5th grade onward that gradually ramps up in complication
(also the period and comma keys on my keyboard are broken so the grammar is really off)