When does existence end?

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I cant stop thinking about this. I know this has haunted humans since the beginning, but I want some opinions. Imagine a universe, now go past it. What do you see? Is it another universe or emptiness? An end to the multiverse is impossible unless its all fake, but then what is real? Maybe its the midterm studying talking... but I am going insane with thinking how far this all goes.

Basically, How is all of this real if infinity is impossible and an end is also impossible? Also if its fake then there must be a real which brings us back to the original question.


Edit: Wrong Forum sorry.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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The Universe is an ever expanding realm of infinity.


Or it just has another, cowboy based version.
 

CoverYourHead

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Haven't you ever played Asteroids? Eventually you just come back on the opposite side of the screen. Seriously, the universe is a sphere. Think about it.
 
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Its a mindbender thats for sure.

I like to think that we're surrounded by parallel universes.
 

Dorian

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I choose to believe in the big bang theory, as it seems most logical right now to me.
So in my eyes, the universe is still expanding at [big-ass number of units/time unit]. However (to the best of my understanding/knowledge), the vacuum of space isn't really anything, it's just the absence of stuff. I don't see why it wouldn't be going on forever.

Long story short, empty space goes infinitely in any direction, matter does not. In my opinion, that is. :D

EDIT: Oh, and one of my thoughts is that individual universes are like radio frequencies. I can't really explain it, so hopefully you understand...
 
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Dear Christ, I know we said we wanted more topial threads and not endless 'Halo FTW' but this is getting ridiculous.

As to your question, it is impossible for us to determine when existence ends, thus we should't cncern ourselves with it. Since human life is about (paradoxically) the absence of an end, what we sould be more worried about is the moment in which we are not ending. (I say that human life is an absence of an end because as long as life continues it has not ended and once it ends there is no life in which to not end.)

On a larger scale, it is probably safe to assume that humanity will come to an end long before the end of the universe, whatever Doctor Who would have you believe, and so once more it should not be a concern. Humans are fascinating in this regard that we consistently look beyond the now, and only to the point yet to appear, meaning that (since the point gone has already left, and the point yet to appea has not arrived), we always miss out on te only moment in which we are living. Existence is a series of moments, and while the moments are interconnected, the moment itself is only around for the briefest of measurs of time before it is gone, and refusing to live in it seems rather pointless. Yes one should (in our modern society) plan for the moments yet to come, but notat the expense of the moments in which the moments yet to come arrive.

I'm being overly generalised. If I plan for a party, I should enjoy the party when it happens, this seems a fairly sensible deduction yes? Imagine that your life is one massive party, to which you have a constant invite, yet because you insist on looking at when the party finishes, you miss the entire party. The end is not the point of the party, the party is the point of the party. Don't miss it by worrying about what happens when the check finally comes around.

We will never know when existence ends, either personally or for us all, but we will know the moments we took to enjoy the moment we lived in, rather than the moment we looked toward, that somehow never arrived.
 

Morderkaine

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Empty space is infinite, but the universe is not. The big bang theory seems to be the most plausible one for how it started, and due to gravity will eventually end in a big crush as the universe shrinks back together before exploding out again.
But that will be SOOO far into the future as the universe is still expanding and has been for billions of years. Its so far ahead, there is no need to contemplate it.
Or if you mean end by edge of the universe, empty space is infitite. its very hard to wrap youe head around infinity, but it has to be infinite. If it wasn't, there would be a wall, or an outside to it, and what would that be? Empty space is not something, its just a place for the universe to be in.
 

tthor

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it will end the next time you touch yourself inapropriately.
so you better not doom us all
 

The Heik

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World's Simplest Answer:

WE. DON'T. KNOW.

There you go, question solved. You may now sleep peacefully!
 

ReincarnatedFTP

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The existence of my consciousness? My death.
The existence of my identity? Questionable, depends on your perspective.
The existence of my physical body? My body is just minerals coming and going. When I die, my physical body will decay, but the matter that makes it up will just become other matter and go through re-mineralization. I'll almost definitely see the physical parts of my body eaten by a human or used in something else, and just recycled and recycled after my death.
 

SnootyEnglishman

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Infinite means just that Infinite as it stands right now No science in the world will tell us when we will end. Hell whenever the world will end i'll be dead and rotting in dirt by then.
 

the1ultimate

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The universe is never-ending. It may go on expanding until there is nothing left, but it doesn't ever have to end. Then there is the theory that the universe will expand again after the big crunch (aka the big bang in reverse).

And even if the big crunch was the end, it wouldn't actually be the end so much as a change of state in the universe. As has already been stated, when we say that "the universe is expanding" we actually mean "matter is moving outwards to occupy empty space". The edge of the universe is simply where matter and energy have not yet reached, a void which is infinite.

Also, if there are parallel worlds, then it's likely that most of them will end at the same time as the universe we are in at the moment. I can't speak for alternative dimensions, but if there are universes that have different fundamental specifications than ours, then they will probably still meet a similar fate to our universe, but perhaps in a different way.

Anyway, the law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be made nor destroyed, so if you want you can probably consider that evidence that there will always be flux within the universe. [small]That is if a universal law can be said to work outside the universe...[/small]

Ultimately there is no end to infinity, however existence is not infinite and is subject to change.
 

aPod

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I like how someone said the universe is a sphere... wich is actually, depending on your theory of choice. Mine is the ol' Big Bang. In which case an explosion would have occured sending matter and space out from every direction from the epicenter of the said explosion.

Well wouldnt that most like be a sphere? i dont know im not a ballistics expert but for shits and giggles shall we continue.

If outside the universe is nothing. But you cant travel through nothing, obviously, even though the universe seems to do it and do it with remarkable effeciency, wouldnt travel along the universe, if you were traveling right along the edge, turn in on itself?

Take your hands and make like you're holding a ball.

Now start to slowly move your hands apart. Keep in mind this is the big bang, and within your hand is the universe.

isnt it oddly spherical?...

Now though... where are your hands moving apart into? Air but why, if everything that is and ever will be is inside your sphere in your hands what is outside? Nothing? Well how is that plausible?

I dont know but im also just the janitor.