Indeed. I was watching Overthegun's stream of Oblivion, and he (through Claire) starts to obsess over optimum leveling. I was almost screaming "It's not worth it or necessary!".Miumaru said:Optimum leveling in a TES game. For a bit I kept getting obsessed with getting all +5's without wasting skill points, but then I realized it ruins the game, and unlike everyone else apparently, I do fine as I am without squeexing out every stat point I can.
Yes, the enemies leveled with you, but they didn't reflect your junctioning. That was the thing that people loved or hated about the game; Using the junction system properly you could be REDICULAMONSTROSANTUANLY strong early on. It took a lot of the challenge out of the random encounters. But I liked being able to beat the snot out of...just about everything.generic gamer said:I hardly needed any tough junctions prior to Lunatic Pandora though, most of the game before that is about 'smart' junctions rather than intensive ones. Though if you need an initial boost there's a 'shell' (I think, it's been a while) draw point in the train tunnel. I never did see the point of power levelling in that game, enemies level with you so I never bothered, but if you want to then the training centre has some good opportunities once you can ST-ATK J something like blind or sleep. Same with the forests around town.ShadowKatt said:And that's lovely, -except- you need both Diablos AND the Ragnarok to do it. I was talking about early game power junctioning, like start game - skip dialogue - walk out and fight baddies. By the time I had the Ragnarok, I didn't need to draw anything from heaven or hell, I was swatting dragons like flies.
I miss that game...
I wouldn't call Demon's Souls a chore. It's hard, and you know what you're getting into when you buy the game.Bible Doctor said:Demon's Souls and pretty much everything in WoW and most if not all other MMORPG's.
Dare I ask what nightmare of a game has 1800 collectables?superbatranger said:"Alright, we need you to collect 600 random pieces of crap hidden all over the game world."
"Will you at least tell me in what general area they're in?"
"No."
"Why not?!"
"Just do it, son!"
*3 hours later*
"Ok, I found 3 of them. How many left?"
"597. Oh, and did I mention there are 3 different types of pieces? So, that would make it 1800 in all, so you need to find the other 1797 pieces. Good luck."
*rage quit*
Yea...that.
I know, im just joking aroundBreaker deGodot said:It's just an egg :3Gondito said:I just clicked on your egg. It seems as though your egg died today.Breaker deGodot said:Honestly, I don't know. I just saw it on a guys post, clicked on it, and decided to get my own.the_tramp said:I've noticed this in a few of your posts... what the hell is this!? (Edit - ok, apparently it's not showing up anymore - what was the egg thing!?)Breaker deGodot said:[http://dragcave.net/view/rYtd]![]()
On topic: Final Fantasy X-2. I kept saying to myself "it must get better" so forced myself through it, very disappointed with this.
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII on hard. It's a chore, but a fun chore which is a kind of oxymoron. It's long, laborious and repetitive but I loved doing practically the same thing over and over (the optional missions) again to get the better items.
Must be a better example... The beginning stages of any GTA game in which it presumes no prior knowledge of previous games so it teaches you the basic controls of EVERYTHING despite myself using these techniques to make the earlier tutorials easier.
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Oh, man do I remember that.SargentToughie said:Final Fantasy 8
Drawing Magic
'nuff said
Well, is there an MMORPG when repetition doesnt happen after a certain point and all you do is repeat the same process in hopes of getting better gear/reputation/level? I do believe that mmorpg's become the biggest chores after a certain point. Good example is raids in WoW, from what I hear (steam friends that go on 24-52 hour sessions on WoW), all the game becomes is raid after raid for more gear.PoisonUnagi said:You clearly don't play the right MMORPGs XDDragu_ said:Grind. Nuff said.Wombaat said:What about MMORPGs?
I was thoroughly worn out by the first Disgaea, grinding to max and having an unstoppable party. Im just not up for another one, though it is an AWESOME game. (Just dont have the time)Aby_Z said:Perfecting items in Disgaea 2... God, I love the game, even with the massive grind, but perfecting items is the worst thing in the entire game. 4-16 hours for one item? Dood....
Like Mass Effect, it wasn't harder it just took longer to do, well just about everything. I eventually gave up on that nonsense. If I was playing it on the 360 I might have considered sticking with it for the achievement if nothing else. The low level cap ensured I reached the end game before the credits rolled, there was no achievement and the game had quite simply become annoying to play.kman123 said:ME2 on insanity. Actually, it's head banging on wall annoying.
It's called Drift City, and it's an online racing MMORPG. Look it up, it's awesome.AllLagNoFrag said:Well, is there an MMORPG when repetition doesnt happen after a certain point and all you do is repeat the same process in hopes of getting better gear/reputation/level? I do believe that mmorpg's become the biggest chores after a certain point. Good example is raids in WoW, from what I hear (steam friends that go on 24-52 hour sessions on WoW), all the game becomes is raid after raid for more gear.PoisonUnagi said:You clearly don't play the right MMORPGs XD
Eh, ME1's insanity was a breeze. I don't think I ever died and I never used any of my powers. ME2's insanity wasn't bad until the damn platforms. I stopped after 3 tries because it was becoming more and more like a chore.Eclectic Dreck said:Like Mass Effect, it wasn't harder it just took longer to do, well just about everything. I eventually gave up on that nonsense. If I was playing it on the 360 I might have considered sticking with it for the achievement if nothing else. The low level cap ensured I reached the end game before the credits rolled, there was no achievement and the game had quite simply become annoying to play.kman123 said:ME2 on insanity. Actually, it's head banging on wall annoying.
That's generally how I play games - if they stay consistantly annoying, I move on to something else.
You won't need that here, friend.Kryzantine said:*puts on flame suit against WoW haters*
Ill correct my statement, MOST MMO's get repetitive. Then again... a racing mmo isnt my thing. Right now Im sticking to multiplayers (TF2 doesnt get repetitive for quite a while on a ranked server).PoisonUnagi said:It's called Drift City, and it's an online racing MMORPG. Look it up, it's awesome.AllLagNoFrag said:Well, is there an MMORPG when repetition doesnt happen after a certain point and all you do is repeat the same process in hopes of getting better gear/reputation/level? I do believe that mmorpg's become the biggest chores after a certain point. Good example is raids in WoW, from what I hear (steam friends that go on 24-52 hour sessions on WoW), all the game becomes is raid after raid for more gear.PoisonUnagi said:You clearly don't play the right MMORPGs XD
Ranked server?AllLagNoFrag said:Ill correct my statement, MOST MMO's get repetitive. Then again... a racing mmo isnt my thing. Right now Im sticking to multiplayers (TF2 doesnt get repetitive for quite a while on a ranked server).PoisonUnagi said:It's called Drift City, and it's an online racing MMORPG. Look it up, it's awesome.AllLagNoFrag said:Well, is there an MMORPG when repetition doesnt happen after a certain point and all you do is repeat the same process in hopes of getting better gear/reputation/level? I do believe that mmorpg's become the biggest chores after a certain point. Good example is raids in WoW, from what I hear (steam friends that go on 24-52 hour sessions on WoW), all the game becomes is raid after raid for more gear.PoisonUnagi said:You clearly don't play the right MMORPGs XD
Oh god Horizon was a fucking nightmare, and i played with a solider(still ran out of ammo), all I have to say is good luck and I hope you brought a good team.kman123 said:ME2 on insanity. Actually, it's head banging on wall annoying.