Nifty said:
Onmi said:
Nifty said:
Onmi said:
Nifty said:
Not soon enough. FF12 was bloody terrible. They tried to catch me off guard with The Last Remnant but I'm not falling for that one.
They should give up the ghost before they fully turn into the Sonic Team.
What was wrong with XII, I wanna hear this one, do go on.
You sure? You're not going to like it.
Well OK, let's go. Where do we start? The game mechanics? The same old regurgitated game mechanics from FF7, I've even had a real die hard FF fan agree with me on that, so it must be bad. There's the characters, like the protagonist, Cloud....Tidus....sorry, Vaan who is essentially Tidus in a crop top...who's essentially Cloud but really stupid. And there's Yuna too....sorry, Ashe. And Lulu is back in it, wearing a Playboy Bunny girl outfit, catering to the alternative perverts again, only going from goth to a gothy yiff fetish deal. It's just Final Fantasy X in a different outfit. I'm sure Sin's kicking about somewhere wearing a wig and a Groucho Marx disguise. There's the story too, I finished that in 15 odd hours. I defeated Judge Ghis, I freed the princess, in short I saved the day. That's an ending. At least it was for me, as 2 of my pals (who WERE, at the time, loving the game) said the ending was tosh so I decided to end it on a high note. I've never felt compelled to go back to it again.
It's repeating itself like as if it's got alzheimers, let's do the old girl a favour and just take it out back and shoot it. Final Fantasy 7 would want us too.
Hur hur hur no.
Same old regurgitated mechanics from 7? odd and I hear the majority of complaints about the game is it wasn't the same regurgitated mechanics.
As for your character interpretations?
Vaan is not Tidus by a long shot, Tidus was a sports star thrown into a world completely alien to his own, struggling to make sense of WTF was going on around him.
Ashe is definitely not Yuna, Yuna was a soft spoken Yamato Nadeshiko, while Ashe was a Tsundere so they definitely weren't similar in personality.
Sin was a Cosmic Horror, the closest in FFXII were the Occura and they were literal gods, nothing Sin-esque.
The fact that FF7 and 10 were made by a different design team than XII. No I call big fucking blue balls of bullshit on you
The fact you never finished the game means that your opinion is skewered.
Big fat WRONG right here.
Also Lulu is nothing like Fran, and they had different character designers, see this is what I mean by people like you being completely stupid when it comes to this topic, you all think it's the same damn guys day in day out, it aint.
So please, list some criticisim I can't rebutt. That was one of THE weakest attempts I have ever seen.
I don't understand how you can't see the similarities between the last handful of games' characters. Seeing as that's the case, it's probably best to leave this debate where it is. FF12 is obviously very important to you and I wouldn't want to spoil any more for you.
Character Analysis 1 Tidus and Vaan.
Tidus: A 17 year old Sports star who's flirtatious thrown into a world he doesn't understand after being faced with a cosmic horror, through out the course of his journey he finds it impossible to adapt to this new worlds ideals and soon understands his existence is nothing but fake, regardless he presses on.
Vaan: A something year old pickpocket on the streets of Rabanastre, he harbors a grudge against the Arcadian empire for having occupied his country, his older brother is dead from the war and he channels his emotions into surviving, along his journey he struggles to find meaning to why he fights, he accepts that not everyone from Arcadia is evil when he becomes friends with Larsa, and while he's naive to the workings of Mist, he still understands the world.
In the sequel, he has become a full blown Sky Pirate where he takes charge (and symbolically is handed the 'Leading Role' from Balthier) he grows up and decides to follow his own desires, because thats what it means to be a Sky Pirate.
To go deeper Vaan isn't scared while Tidus is, Tidus has the right to be scared, his first encounters are the Spawn of a cosmic horror, said cosmic horror, underwater murderous creatures, a bigger underwater murderous creature, and a being that has swords for legs.
Vaan is more confident than Tidus was and is, he wasn't 'Lucky' to be alive, he practiced, he had established motivation, Tidus did what he did out of love, Vaan did what he did for his freedom.
They are very different.
I won't even go into detail over Ashe and Yuna besides the fact the first is an 'Action Girl' who holds a very strong presence and the second is very timid, taking an entire game to grow into someone and still less spine than Ashe, Ashe didn't fall in love with the main character either, there was no romance sub-plot, she didn't feel any 'pressure' from lineage like Yunda did.
Maybe you could point out there similarities.
Don't get me wrong, I know where the games problems are, but it aint the characters. I also like to debate so 'Stopping right now' just seems like a cheap cop-out.
