Where does your self-esteem come from?

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AwkwardTurtle

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So I'm relatively interested in how the majority of the Escapist will honestly answer this question.

My current philosopher teacher has recently argued that for the majority of human beings, the normal/average human, their self-esteem is derived from looking down on others.

The story given as an example to this is the story of a young man who has yet to really find a sense of "identity" or "purpose" in the world. Then this young man meets someone who is essentially a nazi. The nazi convinces the young man that Jewish people are the root of all things evil in this world, and the young man, as a blond haired blue-eyed Christian, decides to accept this belief as truth.

Now the young man has both identity and purpose in his life. This is because he can now view himself as someone who hates Jewish people, and his purpose in life has become to eliminate the perceived evil in the world.

He can now feel better about himself because he can now look down and hate on Jewish people. However, it isn't only the negative action of hating itself that motivates the young man. By hating Jewish people as inferior people, he is also simultaneously putting himself above them as an elite group.

The most dangerous part about this kind of separation and hatred is the fact that he was born into the "elite" group that he now places himself in. He can believe that he was simply born a better person as opposed to actually having to do anything.

I imagine the young man would probably feel very good about himself in terms of self-esteem.

Anyway the point of the story was to point out how the average person tends to acquire both self-esteem and purpose in life, although I know that example can be viewed as an extreme example.

So my question to you, Escapists, is there anyway to honestly raise your self-esteem without putting down someone else, whether it is a group or an individual.

Is there a way against the formula "In order to call X good, you must say that X is better than Y"?

P.S As a side discussion (if anyone wants to talk about this also) I also wanted to ask people how true this argument is as well. "To the average human, to be different is to be wrong."
 

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That's a very interesting theory, that holds a lot of merit. I'm sure people who donate to charities can feel the same way since they would be helping someone who is "in a bad way."

When it comes to my self-esteem, I'd say it is true since I feel better about myself when I know people need me.
 

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You know, I think your teacher is right. My self-esteem comes from my (self-perceived) high intelligence and strong moral values so in a sense that is looking down on many other people. Right now I can't think of any way of making one feel better without somehow specifying others as being worse, even if you don't hold that against them.
 

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Well that would explain why I don't have any. Even if I look down on others I know I'm just as pathetic in someone else's eyes. I can raise my self-esteem by doing something I'm proud of, but then someone always does it better so it doesn't help.
 

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My self esteem comes from knowing that I'm smarter than those around me and knowing they depend on me. So I guess your teacher is right.
 

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Age and my enormous penis, overshadowed only by my even larger e-peen.

Your teacher is quite right, even when we are not actually better then others we do fancy ourselves as such to keep the pride pumping, and you will probably notice people in high power positions spend no small amount of time cutting everyone else down to a chewable size.
 

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Rowan93 said:
My self-esteem comes from how awesome I am.
I have to agree with this lovely person. Maybe a hint of narcissism, not from my achievements, or personality, simply because I am. I don't really hate anyone, I live in a pretty bi-cultural area so there isn't much racism (I won't say at all, because there's always a backwards SOB in the bunch)

I don't even have any enemies to look down on anyone.

Side Discussion;

I'm not sure, but self-esteem in primary/secondary school is more than likely achieved from looking down on others, maybe some never grow out of that. I was educated in a small school system, where everyone knew most everyone, (although a kid committed suicide in the 5th grade, from bullying, really unfortunate) So, there weren't as many cliches (or they weren't so set in stone)
 

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Your teacher makes a very good point, and it's something that I never really gave much thought about.

To answer your question, and give you the state of my own self-esteem, I like to use reason and my own intelligence and hope to God to not fuck up.
 

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My self-esteem comes from knowing this already. Yeah it feels good to be 'better' than someone else.

But it's not always needed to actually rub that in the other one's face.
 
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OP, your teacher has a valid point.

My self esteem mostly comes from the fact that I "know" that I suck, but I no longer give a shit. I am who I am, and if other people don't like it, screw 'em. (I put "know" in quotes, because I still have little faith in my own skills, aside from good writing and being generally nice).

But looking deeper, maybe your teacher's point explains why I keep watching The Young Turks despite most of the news being kinda depressing. I guess it pleases me on some level to know that there are scum out there who have their heads stuck so far up their asses that in comparison to them, I'm super smart and kind.

Oh, and having 3 friends (and possibly two more) who I consider practically "brothers" who think I'm a great pal, and a girlfriend who loves me certainly helps too. :p
 

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Self-esteem?
What's that?

OT: My self-esteem comes from those brief moments when fuckeverythingelseIlikebeingme!
Or when people compliment me. The theory makes sense. I feel better than some people, but the associated morals that come with that makes me feel bad anyway.
 

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I realised that regardless of what anybody else thinks, I like me. If you don't have that then you won't really have stable self-esteem.

This came about at the time that I started just letting a lot of things go, stopped caring about a lot of things (not in a nihilist way, more of a "y'know, everything is actually pretty cool" kind of way.

Now I can do pretty much whatever I want and don't lose any confidence regardless of what happens, I became more outgoing, because I don't really care about what people think of me I can do stuff that others would find too embarassing without problems and I have had great experiences.

University was the time this all came about, so glad I went. The years since have been the best of my life.
 

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I completely agree with your teacher. My own self-esteem comes from knowing I'm more intelligent than most of the piss-brained, sexist, bigoted, and just overall not-nice-people that live in the vicinity of me and are around my own age. I'm nineteen.

I swear, every guy I know is either always piss drunk and/or being bigots toward homosexuals and those of a different race. And every girl I know is either pregnant and/or bigots toward homosexuals yadda yadda yadda same as the guys.
 

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I gain my self-esteem through copious amounts of vanity, because I'm so great.
 

Jonluw

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My self esteem wavers over time.

During the times I have good self esteem though, it is mostly due to what I feel are my skills.
Whenever I get a good grade or show of some of my trivia knowledge or master a new song on my instruments I get a self esteem boost.

Also, physically making things - drawings or sculptures - makes me very content.

Basically, my self esteem comes from the feeling that I am skilled at certain things.

Oh, and whenever I notice a girl is attracted to me.
 

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AwkwardTurtle said:
So I'm relatively interested in how the majority of the Escapist will honestly answer this question.

My current philosopher teacher has recently argued that for the majority of human beings, the normal/average human, their self-esteem is derived from looking down on others.

The story given as an example to this is the story of a young man who has yet to really find a sense of "identity" or "purpose" in the world. Then this young man meets someone who is essentially a nazi. The nazi convinces the young man that Jewish people are the root of all things evil in this world, and the young man, as a blond haired blue-eyed Christian, decides to accept this belief as truth.

Now the young man has both identity and purpose in his life. This is because he can now view himself as someone who hates Jewish people, and his purpose in life has become to eliminate the perceived evil in the world.

He can now feel better about himself because he can now look down and hate on Jewish people. However, it isn't only the negative action of hating itself that motivates the young man. By hating Jewish people as inferior people, he is also simultaneously putting himself above them as an elite group.

The most dangerous part about this kind of separation and hatred is the fact that he was born into the "elite" group that he now places himself in. He can believe that he was simply born a better person as opposed to actually having to do anything.

I imagine the young man would probably feel very good about himself in terms of self-esteem.

Anyway the point of the story was to point out how the average person tends to acquire both self-esteem and purpose in life, although I know that example can be viewed as an extreme example.

So my question to you, Escapists, is there anyway to honestly raise your self-esteem without putting down someone else, whether it is a group or an individual.

Is there a way against the formula "In order to call X good, you must say that X is better than Y"?

P.S As a side discussion (if anyone wants to talk about this also) I also wanted to ask people how true this argument is as well. "To the average human, to be different is to be wrong."
What you say has some truth in it, we all love to talk a little bit of crap behind someones back, it doesn't have to be alot, we just don't want to be the worst.

However, I collect my self-esteem from my own goals I set up, I train alot with heavy weights. So my goal can be to lift x amount of Kg next month etc. And with my now more muscly build, my self-esteem have shot through the roof.

But most importantly, I've never taken in anything bad anyone has said to me, you can't let the shit-talk sway you.