Where is the justice?

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Condemning someone over images of non-existent children in sexual scenarios is like condemning someone over the robbery of a non-existent store or the murder of a non-existent person...

No.
Look at it this way:
You draw a child. You're an exceptionally good drawer, so it looks super real.
The kid is maybe 12-years-old, and performing some sort of sexual act in the drawing. (The thought alone sounds disturbing, doesn't it? Be honest)

I could then assume that you are turned on by children.

On the other hand, you may have a guy.
He came into the possesion of the floor plans of a bank, and has a notepad lying around with how to break into the bank.

I can then assume that this person is going to rob the bank.

That would be a more suitable comparison. I personally think it's very valid, even.

But none of these images look real. They don't even look remotely close to a human. Look at my previous images. Do those look like normal humans to you? They look closer to aliens than people.

Exactly. Most loli don't even resemble human beings. In fact, the closer to resembling them, the less likely I am to look at them. I find the thought of sexual activity with an actual child repulsive. But according to some people on this thread, I'm a second rate pedophile.

 

[s0denone]

But none of these images look real. They don't even look remotely close to a human. Look at my previous images. Do those look like normal humans to you? They look closer to aliens than people.

Are they depicting human children or not?
Yes/No?
These images look like kids. One way or another you're going to have to accept that.
I don't care that the Japanese manga-style makes them look less human. I don't have more or less of a problem with more realistically drawn sexualised children.

Again, that doesn't make any sense, it's the same as assuming that someone simulating a murder or a bank heist in a video-game or any other form of media would be preparing to actually commit murder or rob a bank.

You cannot pre-emptively arrest people for crimes they haven't committed just because you think they might do so.

Actually people are rightfully arrested pre-emptively every day.
Look have many terrorist attempts have been foiled in recent years, as people were caught with their hands on things they wouldn't have their hands on, unless they were out to commit a crime.

 

[Arawn.Chernobog]

Im just going to say this if looking at loli becomes illegal whats next thinking of loli? Is everyone going to have to be bashed in the head at birth so they dont think of loli?

First the fake-child porn is banned.

Then the fake-rape porn.

Then the fake-bank heists.

Then the fake-prostitute solicitation.

Then the fake-murders.

Then the fake-animal murders.

Then the fake-guns.

Then the fake-drugs.

Then the fake-violence.

Then the fake-sex.

And you get to play games, watch movies, read books, look at pictures, etc. with none of these elements and the world becomes a boring place where you're better off dead.

 

[Arawn.Chernobog]

But none of these images look real. They don't even look remotely close to a human. Look at my previous images. Do those look like normal humans to you? They look closer to aliens than people.

Are they depicting human children or not?
Yes/No?
These images look like kids. One way or another you're going to have to accept that.
I don't care that the Japanese manga-style makes them look less human. I don't have more or less of a problem with more realistically drawn sexualised children.

Again, that doesn't make any sense, it's the same as assuming that someone simulating a murder or a bank heist in a video-game or any other form of media would be preparing to actually commit murder or rob a bank.

You cannot pre-emptively arrest people for crimes they haven't committed just because you think they might do so.

Actually people are rightfully arrested pre-emptively every day.
Look have many terrorist attempts have been foiled in recent years, as people were caught with their hands on things they wouldn't have their hands on, unless they were out to commit a crime.

Doesn't justify arresting someone for a crime they DIDN'T commit. Like I said, it's the same thing as arresting someone for drawing a picture of a dead guy or killing a random NPC in a video game.

 

[Steppin Razor]

Oh goodie, another lolicon thread and all the retardedness that implies.

BURN THEM, BURN THEM SICKOS FOR LIKING DIFFERENT THINGS THAN I DO!

.....

*sigh*

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Im just going to say this if looking at loli becomes illegal whats next thinking of loli? Is everyone going to have to be bashed in the head at birth so they dont think of loli?

First the fake-child porn is banned.

Then the fake-rape porn.

Then the fake-bank heists.

Then the fake-prostitute solicitation.

Then the fake-murders.

Then the fake-animal murders.

And you get to play games, watch movies, read books, look at pictures, etc. with none of these elements and the world becomes a boring place where you're better off dead.

And it will all be done under the banner of "Think of the children."

 

[The Lunatic]

How do you know that every character ever shot in a video game or movie is not based off of somebody actually getting shot? How do you know that the people who make violent video games aren't killing hookers on the side, and getting away with it? It's the same damn slope.

Uh, every character in a video game or a movie, probably at some stage is based of somebody getting shot, otherwise, we wouldn't know what it looks like, however, these images are an age-old thing, I mean, humanity has been at war for as long as it's existed, we have enough reference material for that kind of thing.

Yes, killing hookers. Because nobody notices the guy who kills hookers.

Here's the thing, some crimes are a lot harder to detect than other.

 

[Finnra]

Child porn is fucking disgusting. Drawn child porn is also fucking disgusting. I pretty much agree it shouldn't be under legislation, but I don't wanna see that shit.

 

[Arawn.Chernobog]

Im just going to say this if looking at loli becomes illegal whats next thinking of loli? Is everyone going to have to be bashed in the head at birth so they dont think of loli?

First the fake-child porn is banned.

Then the fake-rape porn.

Then the fake-bank heists.

Then the fake-prostitute solicitation.

Then the fake-murders.

Then the fake-animal murders.

And you get to play games, watch movies, read books, look at pictures, etc. with none of these elements and the world becomes a boring place where you're better off dead.

And it will all be done under the banner of "Think of the children."

Exactly, it's just another bullshit way of implementing censorship and false-morality.

Hell, in general I dislike the anime style behind Lolicon, I'm far more into Western animation styles but it's stupid to request that false people (such as characters in a video game, manga, novel, movie, cartoon, etc.) be given rights equal or similar to those of actual human beings. THEY AREN'T REAL!

I just shot off a guy's head in a video game, he's nothing but pixels and code.

I just drew a naked guy with an unestablished age in this piece of paper, he's nothing but graphite and paper

I just wrote of a bank heist on a word document, it's nothing but pixels and code.

 

[Fledge]

But he didn't even draw them...he was translating....did the origingal artists get fined? No? What's wrong with this world?

 

[EinTheCorgi]

Im just going to say this if looking at loli becomes illegal whats next thinking of loli? Is everyone going to have to be bashed in the head at birth so they dont think of loli?

First the fake-child porn is banned.

Then the fake-rape porn.

Then the fake-bank heists.

Then the fake-prostitute solicitation.

Then the fake-murders.

Then the fake-animal murders.

And you get to play games, watch movies, read books, look at pictures, etc. with none of these elements and the world becomes a boring place where you're better off dead.

And it will all be done under the banner of "Think of the children."

heh yeah because we all know children are helpless little retards...even though the only reason they're like that is because we make them that way...hell if i were to wake up my daughter and challenge her to a fight she would kick me in the balls,win and then go back to sleep.

 

[Trolldor]

As much as I loathe closet-pedophiles who gawk at underage cartoons, no children were exploited. Nobody has suffered. There is nothing to be answered for unless someone cares to draw a clear, concise link with supporting evidence that says sick fucks and their loli will become child abusers.

 

[s0denone]

No reason to reply to any of the people I'm "discussing" this issue with.
We are clearly of differing opinion, and arguing endlessly would solve nothing. I will just throw in my honest two cents on the subject before I stop replying here. Feel free to quote me all you wish - I'm not going to reply.

Feel free to call me close-minded, tell me my opinions resemble those of fox news, or whatever other insult you feel like throwing my way.

I will happily defend, and openly admit to, the "discrimination" of people looking at images(drawn or otherwise) of children performing sexual acts.

You have a problem with me doing that? As I said, fine. You and I are never going to be friends. Not that I think you are now devastated by that, but I just think you should know that I will never respect you as a human being, and that all of your slander and refusal to accept that, I can only pity.

I know this may seem like a stuck-up position to take. Moral high ground and all, but is it really? I think it is very unusual for people to actively defend this sort of thing, and I am extremely disappointed in the people in this thread who are doing so. Calling me old-fashioned and conservative? It has no relevance. I vote progessive socialist(Native of Denmark), and I *for* the equal rights of just about every minority in society.
At some points, though, I draw the line.

Being aroused by children crosses that line. I have absolutely zero tolerance. I am staggered that people are apparently surprised at the moral stigma something like this carries with it. What the fuck did you people expect?

As an end note: I am sorry if this post comes off as offensive, or otherwise profane or vulgar. I do not mean to offend, but feel I can only express my honest opinion, as I have just done.

 

[The Lunatic]

You seem to be okay with the violent video games. Why? Because those are your views. There are people we get to hear about on a daily basis who would say that playing GTA makes you a likely mass murderer, and therefore you should be locked away before you hurt someone.

Doesn't make a great deal of sense, does it?

Because humans are pretty okay when it comes to war.

Generally in conflict there's people we regard as "The big bad" and therefore it makes it okay to kill these people.

This also happens in video games.

As for innocents in video games. Well, I'm not raping them. I'm killing them. A scene depicted in many different things, movies, video games, comics, novels and what-not. Therefore the regular human is pretty desensitized to it.

I'm sure if child rape was common place in movies, novels and video games, it wouldn't as n issue as it is, and everyone would be blissfully unaware of how repulsive it is to your current average person.

Does it make sense? Well, not really.

But that's just how things are. Not all crimes are equal.

 

[EinTheCorgi]

Im just going to say this if looking at loli becomes illegal whats next thinking of loli? Is everyone going to have to be bashed in the head at birth so they dont think of loli?

First the fake-child porn is banned.

Then the fake-rape porn.

Then the fake-bank heists.

Then the fake-prostitute solicitation.

Then the fake-murders.

Then the fake-animal murders.

And you get to play games, watch movies, read books, look at pictures, etc. with none of these elements and the world becomes a boring place where you're better off dead.

And it will all be done under the banner of "Think of the children."

Exactly, it's just another bullshit way of implementing censorship and false-morality.

Hell, in general I dislike the anime style behind Lolicon, I'm far more into Western animation styles but it's stupid to request that false people (such as characters in a video game, manga, novel, movie, cartoon, etc.) be given rights equal or similar to those of actual human beings. THEY AREN'T REAL!

I just shot off a guy's head in a video game, he's nothing but pixels and code.

I just drew a naked guy with an unestablished age in this piece of paper, he's nothing but graphite and paper

I just wrote of a bank heist on a word document, it's nothing but pixels and code.

I would bet that its just people are lazy and feel powerless so fucking with someone elces life makes them feel powerful